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Outer Sparta wrote:

Arumbia67 wrote:The patriots don't really have offensive talent besides Gronk. Although considering the ridiculous amount of media hype they get, it wouldn't surprise me if someone like Amendola or Edelman became the next Joe Namath. He also often benefits from some pretty favorable play calls. What other QB can whine their way out of an intentional grounding call? Anyway. they're carried by a great defense, and the fact that they play in a mediocre division. Remember super bowl 49? Brady played like shit almost the whole game, (even throwing two picks) until Jeremy lane was injured. Even then he had to rely on someone else to save his butt.

Brady got four touchdowns in that game as well. The major thing that Seattle lost it, but Brady still kept the team in the game.

Arumbia67 wrote:

Arkinesia wrote:Christ, not this shit again. Okay, try this on for size. Name a future HoF offensive skill player Brady has played with besides Gronkowski (rookie year: 2010, at which point the Pats had already won three Super Bowls) or Randy Moss (who only played for the Pats for a year).

Go ahead. I'll wait.

Obligatory “I'm not a Tom Brady fan, I'm just an objective observer of the sport” mention here.


Everything about the four-letter network is shit.

The patriots don't really have offensive talent besides Gronk. Although considering the ridiculous amount of media hype they get, it wouldn't surprise me if someone like Amendola or Edelman became the next Joe Namath. He also often benefits from some pretty favorable play calls. What other QB can whine their way out of an intentional grounding call? Anyway. they're carried by a great defense, and the fact that they play in a mediocre division. Remember super bowl 49? Brady played like shit almost the whole game, (even throwing two picks) until Jeremy lane was injured. Even then he had to rely on someone else to save his butt.

Arumbia67 wrote:

Outer Sparta wrote:Brady got four touchdowns in that game as well. The major thing that Seattle lost it, but Brady still kept the team in the game.

Well yeah. He had Tharold Simon, one of the worst corners in the NFL to pick on for a good chunk of it. Any NFL QB could score 4 tds with him in. Hell most college ones probably could to.

Arumbia67 wrote:

Outer Sparta wrote:Brady got four touchdowns in that game as well. The major thing that Seattle lost it, but Brady still kept the team in the game.

Well yeah. He had Tharold Simon, one of the worst corners in the NFL to pick on for a good chunk of it. Any NFL QB could score 4 tds with him in. Hell most college ones probably could to.

Luminesa wrote:

Arumbia67 wrote:Well yeah. He had Tharold Simon, one of the worst corners in the NFL to pick on for a good chunk of it. Any NFL QB could score 4 tds with him in. Hell most college ones probably could to.

Seattle also had Richard Sherman, Kam Chancellor, Michael Bennett, and that entire Seattle D, which was phenomenal all year. I hate Seattle with a passion, but there's no denying that their D is stacked.

Idzequitch wrote:

Luminesa wrote:Seattle also had Richard Sherman, Kam Chancellor, Michael Bennett, and that entire Seattle D, which was phenomenal all year. I hate Seattle with a passion, but there's no denying that their D is stacked.

But on the other hand, a secondary is really only as strong as its weakest member. As long as there's one guy you can take advantage of, the defense will have trouble.

Luminesa wrote:

Idzequitch wrote:But on the other hand, a secondary is really only as strong as its weakest member. As long as there's one guy you can take advantage of, the defense will have trouble.

That is true. And that's something the Saints know...very well...

*Glares at Patrick Robinson somewhere.*

Outer Sparta wrote:

Luminesa wrote:That is true. And that's something the Saints know...very well...

*Glares at Patrick Robinson somewhere.*

At least Brandon Browner is gone. He committed the most penalties last year with 24.
Referee: Pass interference, number 39. Automatic first down at the spot of the foul.
Now repeat the 23 times a referee refers to 39 on the Saints. That's that guy.

Luminesa wrote:

Outer Sparta wrote:At least Brandon Browner is gone. He committed the most penalties last year with 24.
Referee: Pass interference, number 39. Automatic first down at the spot of the foul.
Now repeat the 23 times a referee refers to 39 on the Saints. That's that guy.

*Shudders.*

The Nihilistic view wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-37265886

Not sure what you guys think of this escalation? The interesting thing for me Being British is the attitude of the police, I think very few people here would accept the Police potentially putting thousands of other people in danger over what one person has done. So having been following the story for while I would be interested what people over the pond think. Also opinions on whether the NFL is or is not right to not have standing a league rule as I have seen a few people not happy at that. And finally whether the franchise is right to not take any action?

I would add all this national anthem stuff at sports games other than internationals is really weird to me. A few years ago when I was visiting my Uncle one time I saw Manchester United play Inter Milan in the US, the US national anthem was played before. Which was probably the most surreal experience in a sports stadium I have had, watching two teams from other countries with no US players start a match off with the American Anthem just because the game was in the US.

The whole episode is slightly bizarre to me. So getting a explanations from people from the culture would help me understand a bit better I think.

The Nihilistic view wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-37265886

Not sure what you guys think of this escalation? The interesting thing for me Being British is the attitude of the police, I think very few people here would accept the Police potentially putting thousands of other people in danger over what one person has done. So having been following the story for while I would be interested what people over the pond think. Also opinions on whether the NFL is or is not right to not have standing a league rule as I have seen a few people not happy at that. And finally whether the franchise is right to not take any action?

I would add all this national anthem stuff at sports games other than internationals is really weird to me. A few years ago when I was visiting my Uncle one time I saw Manchester United play Inter Milan in the US, the US national anthem was played before. Which was probably the most surreal experience in a sports stadium I have had, watching two teams from other countries with no US players start a match off with the American Anthem just because the game was in the US.

The whole episode is slightly bizarre to me. So getting a explanations from people from the culture would help me understand a bit better I think.

Idzequitch wrote:

The Nihilistic view wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-37265886

Not sure what you guys think of this escalation? The interesting thing for me Being British is the attitude of the police, I think very few people here would accept the Police potentially putting thousands of other people in danger over what one person has done. So having been following the story for while I would be interested what people over the pond think. Also opinions on whether the NFL is or is not right to not have standing a league rule as I have seen a few people not happy at that. And finally whether the franchise is right to not take any action?

I would add all this national anthem stuff at sports games other than internationals is really weird to me. A few years ago when I was visiting my Uncle one time I saw Manchester United play Inter Milan in the US, the US national anthem was played before. Which was probably the most surreal experience in a sports stadium I have had, watching two teams from other countries with no US players start a match off with the American Anthem just because the game was in the US.

The whole episode is slightly bizarre to me. So getting a explanations from people from the culture would help me understand a bit better I think.

So, this is ridiculous. Yes, Kaep is basically flipping the bird to the police, and despite the disrespectful attitude, he has the right to freedom of expression. So no, this is not okay. Police are supposed to protect and serve, period. Not "protect and serve those whom they like" not "protect and serve those they agree with." Just do it. They're only giving Kaepernick's claims more clout. They're potentially endangering thousands of people because one guy dared to criticize them. If they really want to prove him wrong, they'll act as if he never said anything and just do their job regardless.

To echo Lumi, what a trainwreck. Both Kaepernick and the police department need to grow the heck up, and fast.

Luminesa wrote:

Idzequitch wrote:So, this is ridiculous. Yes, Kaep is basically flipping the bird to the police, and despite the disrespectful attitude, he has the right to freedom of expression. So no, this is not okay. Police are supposed to protect and serve, period. Not "protect and serve those whom they like" not "protect and serve those they agree with." Just do it. They're only giving Kaepernick's claims more clout. They're potentially endangering thousands of people because one guy dared to criticize them. If they really want to prove him wrong, they'll act as if he never said anything and just do their job regardless.

To echo Lumi, what a trainwreck. Both Kaepernick and the police department need to grow the heck up, and fast.

NOBODY GREW UP. EVERYBODY BACK TO KINDERGARTEN. EVERYBODY.

Luminesa wrote:

Idzequitch wrote:So, this is ridiculous. Yes, Kaep is basically flipping the bird to the police, and despite the disrespectful attitude, he has the right to freedom of expression. So no, this is not okay. Police are supposed to protect and serve, period. Not "protect and serve those whom they like" not "protect and serve those they agree with." Just do it. They're only giving Kaepernick's claims more clout. They're potentially endangering thousands of people because one guy dared to criticize them. If they really want to prove him wrong, they'll act as if he never said anything and just do their job regardless.

To echo Lumi, what a trainwreck. Both Kaepernick and the police department need to grow the heck up, and fast.

NOBODY GREW UP. EVERYBODY BACK TO KINDERGARTEN. EVERYBODY.

Idzequitch wrote:

The Nihilistic view wrote:http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-37265886

Not sure what you guys think of this escalation? The interesting thing for me Being British is the attitude of the police, I think very few people here would accept the Police potentially putting thousands of other people in danger over what one person has done. So having been following the story for while I would be interested what people over the pond think. Also opinions on whether the NFL is or is not right to not have standing a league rule as I have seen a few people not happy at that. And finally whether the franchise is right to not take any action?

I would add all this national anthem stuff at sports games other than internationals is really weird to me. A few years ago when I was visiting my Uncle one time I saw Manchester United play Inter Milan in the US, the US national anthem was played before. Which was probably the most surreal experience in a sports stadium I have had, watching two teams from other countries with no US players start a match off with the American Anthem just because the game was in the US.

The whole episode is slightly bizarre to me. So getting a explanations from people from the culture would help me understand a bit better I think.

So, this is ridiculous. Yes, Kaep is basically flipping the bird to the police, and despite the disrespectful attitude, he has the right to freedom of expression. So no, this is not okay. Police are supposed to protect and serve, period. Not "protect and serve those whom they like" not "protect and serve those they agree with." Just do it. They're only giving Kaepernick's claims more clout. They're potentially endangering thousands of people because one guy dared to criticize them. If they really want to prove him wrong, they'll act as if he never said anything and just do their job regardless.

To echo Lumi, what a trainwreck. Both Kaepernick and the police department need to grow the heck up, and fast.

Bralia wrote:

Idzequitch wrote:So, this is ridiculous. Yes, Kaep is basically flipping the bird to the police, and despite the disrespectful attitude, he has the right to freedom of expression. So no, this is not okay. Police are supposed to protect and serve, period. Not "protect and serve those whom they like" not "protect and serve those they agree with." Just do it. They're only giving Kaepernick's claims more clout. They're potentially endangering thousands of people because one guy dared to criticize them. If they really want to prove him wrong, they'll act as if he never said anything and just do their job regardless.

To echo Lumi, what a trainwreck. Both Kaepernick and the police department need to grow the heck up, and fast.

I just came into this thread to vent about this. Why did you say everything that needed to be said so reasonably? You just took the wind out of my outrage.

Idzequitch wrote:Denver dropped the ButtFumble, but don't worry. He was promptly scooped up by Dallas. Just when you thought they couldn't become a bigger joke.

Ameriganastan wrote:

Idzequitch wrote:Denver dropped the ButtFumble, but don't worry. He was promptly scooped up by Dallas. Just when you thought they couldn't become a bigger joke.

HAHAHAHA!

Idzequitch wrote:Denver dropped the ButtFumble, but don't worry. He was promptly scooped up by Dallas. Just when you thought they couldn't become a bigger joke.

Idzequitch wrote:

Ameriganastan wrote:HAHAHAHA!

It sounds like something NFL Memes would make up, but three stories from three reputable sources finally convinced me. It's just too perfect.