2016 NFL Offseason

[Riflemoor]

I went to the Seahawks game last afternoon, yelled a lot, then went home and got Thorn for my Hunter in Destiny. Yesterday was a good day.
Except for the fact that Wilson threw like three interceptions. The Giants' coverage team was on point that day.

[The greater Vakolicci Haven]

I went to the Seahawks game last afternoon, yelled a lot, then went home and got Thorn for my Hunter in Destiny. Yesterday was a good day.
Except for the fact that Wilson threw like three interceptions. The Giants' coverage team was on point that day.

That was a terrible game. Apart from the coverage team, the rest of the giants defense was as bad as it usually is.

[Maineiacs]

I went to the Seahawks game last afternoon, yelled a lot, then went home and got Thorn for my Hunter in Destiny. Yesterday was a good day.
Except for the fact that Wilson threw like three interceptions. The Giants' coverage team was on point that day.

That was a terrible game. Apart from the coverage team, the rest of the giants defense was as bad as it usually is.

Beast Mode is a large part of why I'm winning my fantasy league.

[Bralia]

That was a terrible game. Apart from the coverage team, the rest of the giants defense was as bad as it usually is.

Beast Mode is a large part of why I'm winning my fantasy league.

And that's what made the Seahawks game a great game. Really fun to watch Lynch break tackles from half of the entire Giants defense.

[Maineiacs]

Beast Mode is a large part of why I'm winning my fantasy league.

And that's what made the Seahawks game a great game. Really fun to watch Lynch break tackles from half of the entire Giants defense.

And/or drag them 10 yards.

[Tiami]

And that's what made the Seahawks game a great game. Really fun to watch Lynch break tackles from half of the entire Giants defense.

And/or drag them 10 yards.

And now the Giants defense is ranked 32nd. Who would've thought?

[The greater Vakolicci Haven]

And/or drag them 10 yards.

And now the Giants defense is ranked 32nd. Who would've thought?

Must you remind me?

It was ranked 32nd before the colts game.

[Maineiacs]

Read an article online detailing how the winner of this year's NFC South title could end up being a team with a 5-11 record. That got me thinking, so I experimented with ESPN's playoff calculator, and I came up with a scenario in which every team in the NFC South has precisely 11 losses and every team in the AFC North has precisely 11 wins:

Week 13:
CIN over TB
PIT over NO
MIN over CAR
ARZ over ATL
CLE over BUF
BAL over SD

week 14:
TB over DET
CIN over PIT
NO over CAR
BAL over MIA
CLE over IND
GB over ATL

week 15:
TB over CAR
PIT over ATL
CIN over CLE
BAL over JAX
CHI over NO

week 16:
GB over TB
PIT over KC
BAL over HOU
CLE over CAR
ATL over NO
CIN over DEN

week 17:
CAR over ATL
CLE over BAL
PIT over CIN
TB over NO


NFC South:
ATL 5-11
NO 5-11
TB 5-11
CAR 4-11-1
ATL wins the title over NO and TB based on head-to-head record among the 3 teams; and a 5-win team hosts a playoff game.

AFC North:
CIN 11-4-1
PIT 11-5 <-- Wild Card
CLE 11-5 <-- Wild Card
BAL 11-5 <-- stays home based on division record

Granted, this scenario is very unlikely, but it is possible.

[Riflemoor]

Read an article online detailing how the winner of this year's NFC South title could end up being a team with a 5-11 record. That got me thinking, so I experimented with ESPN's playoff calculator, and I came up with a scenario in which every team in the NFC South has precisely 11 losses and every team in the AFC North has precisely 11 wins:

-snip-

Granted, this scenario is very unlikely, but it is possible.

Reminds me of the video about how you can, theoretically, become President of the United States by winning only 22% of the population (just go for all the small states)

[The Ben Boys]

Read an article online detailing how the winner of this year's NFC South title could end up being a team with a 5-11 record. That got me thinking, so I experimented with ESPN's playoff calculator, and I came up with a scenario in which every team in the NFC South has precisely 11 losses and every team in the AFC North has precisely 11 wins:

-snip-

Granted, this scenario is very unlikely, but it is possible.

Reminds me of the video about how you can, theoretically, become President of the United States by winning only 22% of the population (just go for all the small states)

Which is why playoff hopes by division is ludicrous; it should be by conference records.

Also, why is there all this talk of how the Packers-Bills game was a big upset? Seriously, what constitutes and upset in the modern NFL? Two teams with winning records going at it and the one with home field wins? Even as a Packers fan, I was betting on the Bills; Packers are shit on the road and Bills are doing pretty grand for the Bills.

[The REAL Glasers]

I'd love to see people try to say now that Romo isn't one of the best QBs in the league.

[Edward Richtofen]

I'd love to see people try to say now that Romo isn't one of the best QBs in the league.

Watch us. We Romo haters will find a way

[Maurepas]

I'd love to see people try to say now that Romo isn't one of the best QBs in the league.

DeMarco Murray I think was probably a big help.

<---/Still a hater.

[Maurepas]

Reminds me of the video about how you can, theoretically, become President of the United States by winning only 22% of the population (just go for all the small states)

Which is why playoff hopes by division is ludicrous; it should be by conference records.

Also, why is there all this talk of how the Packers-Bills game was a big upset? Seriously, what constitutes and upset in the modern NFL? Two teams with winning records going at it and the one with home field wins? Even as a Packers fan, I was betting on the Bills; Packers are shit on the road and Bills are doing pretty grand for the Bills.

I don't think so, records don't mean everything. The Indianapolis Colts get away with being a mediocre team with a great record every year because their division is god-awful. Whereas the ultra-competitive NFC West all have mediocre records despite being some of the best teams in the conference.

Yeah, sometimes Divisions have their down years, but that doesn't always mean anything. The Cardinals went to the Super Bowl relatively recently after limping into the playoffs with a crap record, yet they were the best team in the Conference that year. The Seahawks have had success going in with crap records, the Giants have two SuperBowl wins that way, etc.

You play your division opponents twice a year and the reward for coming out on top in those battles is a playoff berth, and I see no reason to change that. I could, however, entertain the notion that seeding should be based upon record, after all, it doesn't seem fair for a Wild Card team with a better record to be stuck playing a road game against a team that didn't play as well. I think that would be a fair compromise.

[The REAL Glasers]

I'd love to see people try to say now that Romo isn't one of the best QBs in the league.

Watch us. We Romo haters will find a way

That's a shame, but I guess it's hard to see when your head is stuck up your ass.

I'd love to see people try to say now that Romo isn't one of the best QBs in the league.

DeMarco Murray I think was probably a big help.

<---/Still a hater.

He had Murray the past few seasons and even when he didn't have a great running game his stats were still very good. This year he's quietly put up a rating of 114 with a comp% of 70, not even Brady has had a season that accurate. Over his career Romo has had a better rating and comp% than Brady, and for some reason we act like he's not even Top 5. Romo's been consistently great, people are just too busy buying into media narratives instead of actual facts. The reason the 'Boys are finally winning is they've stayed healthy and the playcalling is actually making use of their run game. There are few teams that wouldn't immediately benefit from having Romo on their roster.

[Greater Weselton]

Is Johnny Manziel the new Ryan Leaf?

[Maurepas]

Is Johnny Manziel the new Ryan Leaf?

I don't think he's quite that good yet, >_>

[Maurepas]

He had Murray the past few seasons and even when he didn't have a great running game his stats were still very good. This year he's quietly put up a rating of 114 with a comp% of 70, not even Brady has had a season that accurate. Over his career Romo has had a better rating and comp% than Brady, and for some reason we act like he's not even Top 5. Romo's been consistently great, people are just too busy buying into media narratives instead of actual facts. The reason the 'Boys are finally winning is they've stayed healthy and the playcalling is actually making use of their run game. There are few teams that wouldn't immediately benefit from having Romo on their roster.

That is true, but that doesn't necessarily invalidate my position. For one, though Murray was there he wasn't given the kind of opportunities he's being given now, which is a big factor in Romo no longer having to be the focus of the team.

And for two, the same can be said of Andy Dalton, or Joe Flacco, or Eli Manning, etc., I don't think that speaks to Romo's status so much as it speaks to the extreme rarity of competent QB play.

[The Ben Boys]

Which is why playoff hopes by division is ludicrous; it should be by conference records.

Also, why is there all this talk of how the Packers-Bills game was a big upset? Seriously, what constitutes and upset in the modern NFL? Two teams with winning records going at it and the one with home field wins? Even as a Packers fan, I was betting on the Bills; Packers are shit on the road and Bills are doing pretty grand for the Bills.

I don't think so, records don't mean everything. The Indianapolis Colts get away with being a mediocre team with a great record every year because their division is god-awful. Whereas the ultra-competitive NFC West all have mediocre records despite being some of the best teams in the conference.

Yeah, sometimes Divisions have their down years, but that doesn't always mean anything. The Cardinals went to the Super Bowl relatively recently after limping into the playoffs with a crap record, yet they were the best team in the Conference that year. The Seahawks have had success going in with crap records, the Giants have two SuperBowl wins that way, etc.

You play your division opponents twice a year and the reward for coming out on top in those battles is a playoff berth, and I see no reason to change that. I could, however, entertain the notion that seeding should be based upon record, after all, it doesn't seem fair for a Wild Card team with a better record to be stuck playing a road game against a team that didn't play as well. I think that would be a fair compromise.

I'm going with the argument you stipulated in your first paragraph. Conference records should definitely trump division ones, the only downside is that rivalries that have festered for years may get broken up, which would break my heart.

[Maurepas]

I'm going with the argument you stipulated in your first paragraph. Conference records should definitely trump division ones, the only downside is that rivalries that have festered for years may get broken up, which would break my heart.

Perhaps in seeding, but as I said, winning your division is rewarded with a playoff berth. I don't think the league would benefit from removing that reward and making winning a division irrelevant.

[Tiami]

Is Johnny Manziel the new Ryan Leaf?

He hasn't played nearly enough as Leaf did. Besides, the Browns o-line hasn't help Hoyer nor Manziel.

[Tiami]

Watch us. We Romo haters will find a way

That's a shame, but I guess it's hard to see when your head is stuck up your ass.

DeMarco Murray I think was probably a big help.

<---/Still a hater.

He had Murray the past few seasons and even when he didn't have a great running game his stats were still very good. This year he's quietly put up a rating of 114 with a comp% of 70, not even Brady has had a season that accurate. Over his career Romo has had a better rating and comp% than Brady, and for some reason we act like he's not even Top 5. Romo's been consistently great, people are just too busy buying into media narratives instead of actual facts. The reason the 'Boys are finally winning is they've stayed healthy and the playcalling is actually making use of their run game. There are few teams that wouldn't immediately benefit from having Romo on their roster.

It's worth mentioning that the three consecutive 8-8 seasons were a result of porous defenses. Dallas was consistently ranked in the top 10 in total offense and points per game. Last year's season for Dallas was a true testament to how much Romo has had to carry his team. How the hell do the Cowboys win four games without Romo? The 'Boys defense was almost historically bad (2013 Saints). He's the only reason Dallas is winning the amount of games they have been.

[The Ben Boys]

I'm going with the argument you stipulated in your first paragraph. Conference records should definitely trump division ones, the only downside is that rivalries that have festered for years may get broken up, which would break my heart.

Perhaps in seeding, but as I said, winning your division is rewarded with a playoff berth. I don't think the league would benefit from removing that reward and making winning a division irrelevant.

Then do away with divisions as far as my concerned aside from an organizational tool.

[The REAL Glasers]

He had Murray the past few seasons and even when he didn't have a great running game his stats were still very good. This year he's quietly put up a rating of 114 with a comp% of 70, not even Brady has had a season that accurate. Over his career Romo has had a better rating and comp% than Brady, and for some reason we act like he's not even Top 5. Romo's been consistently great, people are just too busy buying into media narratives instead of actual facts. The reason the 'Boys are finally winning is they've stayed healthy and the playcalling is actually making use of their run game. There are few teams that wouldn't immediately benefit from having Romo on their roster.

That is true, but that doesn't necessarily invalidate my position. For one, though Murray was there he wasn't given the kind of opportunities he's being given now, which is a big factor in Romo no longer having to be the focus of the team.

And for two, the same can be said of Andy Dalton, or Joe Flacco, or Eli Manning, etc., I don't think that speaks to Romo's status so much as it speaks to the extreme rarity of competent QB play.

The run was stuffed last night and Romo still managed to complete 90% of his passes and could've broken Warner's record if he wasn't pulled after the third.

That's laughable. There aren't even 4 QBs in the league better than Romo. Dalton varies from good to laughably bad, Flacco's game depends on the amount of DPI calls he gets, and Eli doesn't play to nearly the same level.

[Edward Richtofen]

Watch us. We Romo haters will find a way

That's a shame, but I guess it's hard to see when your head is stuck up your ass.

It's hard to see anything when you're so high on the success mountain. clouds tend to get in the way