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The Republic of Llamas
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Postby The Republic of Llamas » Fri Jan 03, 2014 10:30 pm

Nazi. I don't really care, because all he can do is spout words.

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Postby Cameroi » Fri Jan 03, 2014 10:33 pm

The Republic of Llamas wrote:Nazi. I don't really care, because all he can do is spout words.


words that rouse the rabble to burn and kill honest people, and screw up the world everyone has to live in, for everyone including themselves.
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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Fri Jan 03, 2014 10:40 pm

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The Republic of Llamas wrote:Nazi. I don't really care, because all he can do is spout words.


words that rouse the rabble to burn and kill honest people, and screw up the world everyone has to live in, for everyone including themselves.


Yeah, it sucks how our hate comes back to bite us in the ass... It's hard being a Nazi. :(
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Postby Estado Paulista » Fri Jan 03, 2014 11:19 pm

The Republic of Llamas wrote:Nazi. I don't really care, because all he can do is spout words.


Not necessarily.
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Postby Lydenburg » Fri Jan 03, 2014 11:21 pm

Estado Paulista wrote:
The Republic of Llamas wrote:Nazi. I don't really care, because all he can do is spout words.


Not necessarily.


What else would they do? The ones I know don't even spout words.

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Postby Vareiln » Fri Jan 03, 2014 11:22 pm

The Republic of Llamas wrote:Nazi. I don't really care, because all he can do is spout words.

They can also open up a rift to their own Gnostic Christian-pagan theological universe and have techno-Germanic-Gotteskriegers wreak havoc upon the world.
And then my associates and I would have to fix that.
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Postby Estado Paulista » Fri Jan 03, 2014 11:22 pm

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Estado Paulista wrote:
Not necessarily.


What else would they do? The ones I know don't even spout words.


A Nazi can still beat you up because he doesn't like you, like anyone else.
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Postby Kaua Hanau » Fri Jan 03, 2014 11:32 pm

Not to threadjack, but I had a tattoo done by a fellow that I'm quite sure was a neo-Nazi. At least, when I began looking at the tattoos on his arms (I was getting bored) a noticed quite a few swastikas. It may have been the fact that I was paying him, but he didn't seem to be bothered that my wife was in the room.

However, I'm not sure how good of a neighbor he would make. Again, sticking with the drug dealer. If he/she was the paranoid, seeing shadow people, mixing shake'n'bake meth in a Gatorade bottle type...that might raise issues as well.

Not all dealers are happy-go-lucky twenty somethings. Some are given-up-on society, "I face planted on the floor and lost my teeth, true story" types.

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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Fri Jan 03, 2014 11:35 pm

Estado Paulista wrote:
Lydenburg wrote:
What else would they do? The ones I know don't even spout words.


A Nazi can still beat you up because he doesn't like you, like anyone else.


Most of them aren't going to do a lot of damage because they are 80 or 90 years old.

Neo-Nazis can do some damage, but even there, the ones who have the nerve to actually do anything violent are probably a minority. I think most of them just annoy people on the internet.
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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Fri Jan 03, 2014 11:42 pm

Kaua Hanau wrote:Not to threadjack, but I had a tattoo done by a fellow that I'm quite sure was a neo-Nazi. At least, when I began looking at the tattoos on his arms (I was getting bored) a noticed quite a few swastikas. It may have been the fact that I was paying him, but he didn't seem to be bothered that my wife was in the room.

However, I'm not sure how good of a neighbor he would make. Again, sticking with the drug dealer. If he/she was the paranoid, seeing shadow people, mixing shake'n'bake meth in a Gatorade bottle type...that might raise issues as well.

Not all dealers are happy-go-lucky twenty somethings. Some are given-up-on society, "I face planted on the floor and lost my teeth, true story" types.

Gatorade is a registered trademark of Pepsi, and in no way advises the misuse of Gatorade containers in mixing meth. No matter how much easier it is. PepsiCo values quality product.


Just because someone has swastika tattoos doesn't mean they are a neo-Nazi. Tattoos are permanent even when the Nazism isn't. I had a nice conversation once with a guy who was tattooed from his neck all the way to his ankles with swastikas, skulls, bats, snakes, etc. He said he loved tattoos, but he didn't really like the swastikas anymore. He didn't want to commit mass-murder.
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Postby Kaua Hanau » Sat Jan 04, 2014 12:11 am

Nazi Flower Power, I actually agree. People change their outlook on life as they live it. The fellow was actually pretty nice to both my wife and myself. That being said, one could make the case, as you have, that not everyone who prescribes to the neo-nazi idealogy, or have at some point in time, are wiling or capable of commiting violence.

Do I agree with those ideas? No. However, so long as someones ideas don't infringe on my rights, or the rights of others, I could even deal with a neo-nazi for a neighbor.

So a drug dealing neo-nazi. Final answer.
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Postby Dyakovo » Sat Jan 04, 2014 12:49 am

Nazi Flower Power wrote:
Kaua Hanau wrote:Not to threadjack, but I had a tattoo done by a fellow that I'm quite sure was a neo-Nazi. At least, when I began looking at the tattoos on his arms (I was getting bored) a noticed quite a few swastikas. It may have been the fact that I was paying him, but he didn't seem to be bothered that my wife was in the room.

However, I'm not sure how good of a neighbor he would make. Again, sticking with the drug dealer. If he/she was the paranoid, seeing shadow people, mixing shake'n'bake meth in a Gatorade bottle type...that might raise issues as well.

Not all dealers are happy-go-lucky twenty somethings. Some are given-up-on society, "I face planted on the floor and lost my teeth, true story" types.

Gatorade is a registered trademark of Pepsi, and in no way advises the misuse of Gatorade containers in mixing meth. No matter how much easier it is. PepsiCo values quality product.


Just because someone has swastika tattoos doesn't mean they are a neo-Nazi. Tattoos are permanent even when the Nazism isn't. I had a nice conversation once with a guy who was tattooed from his neck all the way to his ankles with swastikas, skulls, bats, snakes, etc. He said he loved tattoos, but he didn't really like the swastikas anymore. He didn't want to commit mass-murder.

Or so he claimed...
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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Sat Jan 04, 2014 1:30 am

Dyakovo wrote:
Nazi Flower Power wrote:
Just because someone has swastika tattoos doesn't mean they are a neo-Nazi. Tattoos are permanent even when the Nazism isn't. I had a nice conversation once with a guy who was tattooed from his neck all the way to his ankles with swastikas, skulls, bats, snakes, etc. He said he loved tattoos, but he didn't really like the swastikas anymore. He didn't want to commit mass-murder.

Or so he claimed...
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Well, yeah, I was taking his word for it. I guess I am just being naive.

There have been people I met while I was out selling art who made me feel like it wasn't a safe way to earn a living. The guy with tattoos wasn't one of them. I'm sure he COULD beat the crap out of me if he wanted, but I figured he wasn't going to.
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Postby Mushet » Sat Jan 04, 2014 1:37 am

Nazi Flower Power wrote:
Dyakovo wrote:Or so he claimed...
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Well, yeah, I was taking his word for it. I guess I am just being naive.

There have been people I met while I was out selling art who made me feel like it wasn't a safe way to earn a living. The guy with tattoos wasn't one of them. I'm sure he COULD beat the crap out of me if he wanted, but I figured he wasn't going to.

Could have something to do with a white appearance :p
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Postby Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro » Sat Jan 04, 2014 2:31 am

Nazi Flower Power wrote:Neo-Nazis can do some damage, but even there, the ones who have the nerve to actually do anything violent are probably a minority. I think most of them just annoy people on the internet.

In Rio de Janeiro, Niterói and the northern poor outskirts where I live, I can see that. You don't hear a lot about them committing hate crimes. They're going to be problematic if you're punk (mainly in some parts of Niterói) and also going to make up a significant part of some football hooligan gangs, but it stays at that. Only in the start of the decade you heard of them terrorizing gay kids here.

In São Paulo, their rolê (scene) is really of the treta (violence style). Not all that uncommon for gay couples to have to avoid them through running a lot.

No idea about southern Brazil. No interest in that.
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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Sat Jan 04, 2014 2:36 am

Mushet wrote:
Nazi Flower Power wrote:
Well, yeah, I was taking his word for it. I guess I am just being naive.

There have been people I met while I was out selling art who made me feel like it wasn't a safe way to earn a living. The guy with tattoos wasn't one of them. I'm sure he COULD beat the crap out of me if he wanted, but I figured he wasn't going to.

Could have something to do with a white appearance :p


As devoted as I am to my Volksgenossen, I think it had more to do with the fact he was sober and not hitting on me.
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Postby Mushet » Sat Jan 04, 2014 2:40 am

Nazi Flower Power wrote:
Mushet wrote:Could have something to do with a white appearance :p


As devoted as I am to my Volksgenossen, I think it had more to do with the fact he was sober and not hitting on me.

I meant him not beating the crap out of you :p
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Postby Nazi Flower Power » Sat Jan 04, 2014 3:05 am

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Nazi Flower Power wrote:
As devoted as I am to my Volksgenossen, I think it had more to do with the fact he was sober and not hitting on me.

I meant him not beating the crap out of you :p


Oh, I thought you meant why I wasn't scared of him.

This was in the middle of Boston, where there were other people around. I think if someone racist walked past and didn't like the looks of me, they'd just keep walking. There are a couple of black guys and Asians and a Jewish guy who do the same thing I do, and I've never seen anyone harass them for being black or Asian or Jewish. Actually, tattoo guy really liked Jewish guy's art, so they got along despite all the swastikas.
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Postby Arglorand » Sat Jan 04, 2014 3:47 am

Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro wrote:
Arglorand wrote:The Nazi.

He wouldn't survive long in this neighborhood.

Arglo, you make Lithuania sound so epic, that I even consider moving there even though I know it'd be a terrible cultural, economic and climatic shock that would perhaps kill me. :P

It's just this particular district of Vilnius.

We are so left wing there used to be a huge graffiti portrait of ol' Karl on the nearest wall.
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Postby Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro » Sat Jan 04, 2014 3:50 am

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Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro wrote:Arglo, you make Lithuania sound so epic, that I even consider moving there even though I know it'd be a terrible cultural, economic and climatic shock that would perhaps kill me. :P

It's just this particular district of Vilnius.

We are so left wing there used to be a huge graffiti portrait of ol' Karl on the nearest wall.

In my region of my country, people never feel strongly about politics. They might feel strongly about religion and it might thus affect their interests in elections, but people really don't care about anything.

We favor public services and stable public jobs, but still we elect right-leaning libertarians for regional elections even though we are the richest more consistently left-wing state to the national ones.
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Postby Jamjai » Sat Jan 04, 2014 3:53 am

The drug dealer would probably give me free drugs to try
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Postby Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro » Sat Jan 04, 2014 3:54 am

Jamjai wrote:The drug dealer would probably give me free drugs to try

It REALLY isn't how that works.
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Postby The Huskar Social Union » Sat Jan 04, 2014 3:55 am

Well, Drug Dealers already live in my neighborhood, and the police have done fuck all about them over the last 6 years, so ill go with either the Nazi or the Mass Murderer,both of them are more likely do be dealt with.
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Postby Jamjai » Sat Jan 04, 2014 3:59 am

Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro wrote:
Jamjai wrote:The drug dealer would probably give me free drugs to try

It REALLY isn't how that works.

If I have nothing to eat and hungary I would probably go to the drug dealer's house
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Postby Arglorand » Sat Jan 04, 2014 4:01 am

Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro wrote:
Arglorand wrote:It's just this particular district of Vilnius.

We are so left wing there used to be a huge graffiti portrait of ol' Karl on the nearest wall.

In my region of my country, people never feel strongly about politics. They might feel strongly about religion and it might thus affect their interests in elections, but people really don't care about anything.

We favor public services and stable public jobs, but still we elect right-leaning libertarians for regional elections even though we are the richest more consistently left-wing state to the national ones.

Oh, don't get me wrong, we don't feel strongly about politics either. My local MP is a horrible rightwing conservative.

Our leftwing brigade are anarchists and don't vote.
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