Who Should Run Schools?

[The Sotoan Union]

All I know is that there should be a portrait of Hirohito in every classroom.

Hirohito the harmless old man with only ceremonial power?

[Keventle]

Remember Hitler? or maybe the little red book? need more? or a history lesson?

Are you comparing schools to Hitler and Mao or are you saying that schools don't teach about Hitler and Mao? Both are hyperbole.

Propaganda, keep up

[Vettrera]

here it is folks.
The best schools in the US are in Texas and in Arizona. Did you also know that they are privately ran? Well there you go, do I need to say more?

Newsweek begs to differ a bit (though I generally put more weight on USNews myself(
But that doesn't say anything about Texas or Arizona, just that 2 good schools preside there. The average Texan still may not be the smartest when compared with other states.

[United Marxist Nations]

All I know is that there should be a portrait of Hirohito in every classroom.

Hirohito the harmless old man with only ceremonial power?

I prefer to call him "Supreme Amateur Biologist."

[Geilinor]

here it is folks.
The best schools in the US are in Texas and in Arizona. Did you also know that they are privately ran? Well there you go, do I need to say more?

Source this.

He's lying. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_U.S._states_by_educational_attainment Texas is dead last.
http://www.takepart.com/photos/five-best-states-education-five-worst/1-maryland-one-of-the-5-best Maryland ranks the highest.

[Conservative Idealism]

To which the response came that this was an argument for the Federal government to take over education

Yeah that was me. I stand by that.

In which manner do you stand by that? Do you support legislation such as No Child Left Behind and Race To The Top? It is, after all, a means of calling for the standardization of American education, albeit one that is (surprise, surprise) not performing to the standards our legislators predicted.

[Kylia]

My ideal Public School System would be one in which the curriculum is controlled locally by boards elected by parents of the school district. I am in strong support of parent-controlled education, not by bureaucrats.

If 'parents' as the electorate is too specific, then atleast the voters of the school district.

[Alcase]

Principals

[Novo Portugal]

I can't comment on US Schools so I won't.
But I think it is the government's responsibility along side with direction boards made of teachers and university graduates to run schools.

[Bezombia]

An administrative council elected by the teachers, who are really the only ones qualified to be making the decisions anyway.

[Vettrera]

here it is folks.
The best schools in the US are in Texas and in Arizona. Did you also know that they are privately ran? Well there you go, do I need to say more?

Source this.

He's talking about USNews and World Report.
The best "SCHOOL" is in Texas. Not best Schools though.

[The Tundra]

Source this.
http://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools

they only have an enrollment of 240

[Conservative Idealism]

My ideal Public School System would be one in which the curriculum is controlled locally by boards elected by parents of the school district. I am in strong support of parent-controlled education, not by bureaucrats.

If 'parents' as the electorate is too specific, then atleast the voters of the school district.

I agree, though with the caveat that there should be at least some state standards to prevent corruption in individual communities. I am of the opinion, however, that the federal government should not be involved.

[Keventle]

here it is folks.
The best schools in the US are in Texas and in Arizona. Did you also know that they are privately ran? Well there you go, do I need to say more?

Newsweek begs to differ a bit (though I generally put more weight on USNews myself(
But that doesn't say anything about Texas or Arizona, just that 2 good schools preside there. The average Texan still may not be the smartest when compared with other states.

Well they seem to be on something, we are looking at school models not intelligence.

[The Sotoan Union]

Are you comparing schools to Hitler and Mao or are you saying that schools don't teach about Hitler and Mao? Both are hyperbole.

Propaganda, keep up

Propaganda about what? Obama? The government? That doesn't exist outside of made up libertarian pamphlets. Hell in my school we learned about propaganda and its effects on people. It's incredibly unfair to compare our modern school system to Germany under Hitler and China under Mao, two individuals who would kill your entire family for speaking out against them.

[Genivaria]

Yeah that was me. I stand by that.

In which manner do you stand by that? Do you support legislation such as No Child Left Behind and Race To The Top? It is, after all, a means of calling for the standardization of American education, albeit one that is (surprise, surprise) not performing to the standards our legislators predicted.

The Race To The Top idea seems brilliant as the policy of giving funding based on performance seems to have very poor results.

[Belique]

The Holy Roman Catholic Apostolic Church should be charged with the education of children. From creationism to languages, the Church should control these matters.

[Galter Gulcher]

Kids. The Kids should run the Schools. Hell, I say we get rid of mandatory schooling.

[Keventle]

again we are looking at models of education as in school models.

[Zataristan]

Putin

[Belique]

In which manner do you stand by that? Do you support legislation such as No Child Left Behind and Race To The Top? It is, after all, a means of calling for the standardization of American education, albeit one that is (surprise, surprise) not performing to the standards our legislators predicted.

The Race To The Top idea seems brilliant as the policy of giving funding based on performance seems to have very poor results.

Fact

[Keventle]

Propaganda, keep up

Propaganda about what? Obama? The government? That doesn't exist outside of made up libertarian pamphlets. Hell in my school we learned about propaganda and its effects on people. It's incredibly unfair to compare our modern school system to Germany under Hitler and China under Mao, two individuals who would kill your entire family for speaking out against them.

No we are talking about government controlling all education. Im saying it can lead to propaganda in schools, such as common core and the Union workers.

[Conservative Idealism]

Propaganda, keep up

Propaganda about what? Obama? The government? That doesn't exist outside of made up libertarian pamphlets. Hell in my school we learned about propaganda and its effects on people. It's incredibly unfair to compare our modern school system to Germany under Hitler and China under Mao, two individuals who would kill your entire family for speaking out against them.

The implication is that history textbooks contain propaganda outweighing that of lessons to avoid propaganda. Such an assertion would be unthinkable to the average student (or citizen) regardless of whether or not it's true, simply because propaganda is not always obvious.

But to read what textbooks have to say between-the-lines regarding American involvement in wars, the state of the union at various points in modern history, and history so recent it is covered in the last chapter...while it isn't overtly patriotic, it does raise a few questions.

[Geilinor]

Source this.
http://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools

they only have an enrollment of 240

It's called "The School for the Talented and Gifted". Of course it's good.

[Vettrera]

Newsweek begs to differ a bit (though I generally put more weight on USNews myself(
But that doesn't say anything about Texas or Arizona, just that 2 good schools preside there. The average Texan still may not be the smartest when compared with other states.

Well they seem to be on something, we are looking at school models not intelligence.

The fact that a good school resides in Texas is irrelevant. There are good school models in every state.
Texas on the whole is still, rather poor. You obviously included Arizona and Texas to assert some type of superiority inside the two (conservative) states. But in reality neither state is known for being the brightest crayon in the container.

Obviously private schools that choose who they let in are gonna be "better".
A better measure to find "Models" would be looking for the best public schools.