Who Should Run Schools?

[Constaniana]

A dynastic union of goats and the band geeks, naturally.

[Vazdania]

Well for one thing, it reminded me of a communist work camp....

What communist work camps have you been to?

None, but that doesn't mean it doesn't remind me of a north korean or perhaps Russian work camp.

[Geilinor]

A diverse and unelected board of academic experts chosen based on merit. If you elect the people who are meant to be creating an impartial curriculum, you will get bias and politicization.

[Keventle]

National Board of Education under Ministry of Education and Culture.

yea because the government can run the country's economy so well why not our schools!?

[The Sotoan Union]

What communist work camps have you been to?

None, but that doesn't mean it doesn't remind me of a north korean or perhaps Russian work camp.

You mean teenagers walk around stoned in North Korean work camps? I don't see how they're comparable.

[Conservative Idealism]

100% Agree.

you should visit a middle school sometime.

I quite agree.

For one, just getting into the building can be rather unnerving, as more middle schools than ever are implementing security standards. In my area, expect to see brick walls, security cameras, metal detectors, and a couple of cops.

Then there's the classroom experience. From what I've seen, the most abusive teachers are hired to teach at middle schools because (like middle management) it is the area they can do the least harm, theoretically. Even the good teachers at this level, though, are particularly prone to preventing open discussion in favor of providing information that may or may not be accurate.

Add the stress of the students (particularly sixth-graders that have just transitioned from elementary school), and one would find that a middle school might aesthetically resemble a prison more than anything else.

This is the environment we are subjecting children to. At worst this is an abomination. At best this is a sign that things should probably improve.

[Mike the Progressive]

A diverse and unelected board of academic experts chosen based on merit. If you elect the people who are meant to be creating an impartial curriculum, you will get bias and politicization.

You should, like, read the Republic. And if you already have, you should, like, read it again.

[THE UNION OF FREE STATES OF AMERICA]

Noone. Everyone should self teach themselves. At the most, there should only be: Private schools, homeschooling, Unschooling, or self-teaching.

There is no such thing as a "right to education".

[Geilinor]

you should visit a middle school sometime.

I quite agree.

For one, just getting into the building can be rather unnerving, as more middle schools than ever are implementing security standards. In my area, expect to see brick walls, security cameras, metal detectors, and a couple of cops.

Then there's the classroom experience. From what I've seen, the most abusive teachers are hired to teach at middle schools because (like middle management) it is the area they can do the least harm, theoretically. Even the good teachers at this level, though, are particularly prone to preventing open discussion in favor of providing information that may or may not be accurate.

Add the stress of the students (particularly sixth-graders that have just transitioned from elementary school), and one would find that a middle school might aesthetically resemble a prison more than anything else.

This is the environment we are subjecting children to. At worst this is an abomination. At best this is a sign that things should probably improve.

I've been to a middle school and my experience was quite different. There was one cop, no metal detectors, fairly good teachers, etc. You're generalizing.

[Vettrera]

What communist work camps have you been to?

None, but that doesn't mean it doesn't remind me of a north korean or perhaps Russian work camp.

"remind": cause (someone) to remember someone or something.
If you don't remember being at or witnessing one, please don't make overarching analogies, and just shut up.
In fact, the fact that you'd make such a stupid (for lack of a better word) statement, makes you sound like a spoiled brat that doesn't really know what he's talking about.

[Keventle]

What communist work camps have you been to?

None, but that doesn't mean it doesn't remind me of a north korean or perhaps Russian work camp.

secretly instilling propaganda into the young minds.

[The Sotoan Union]

None, but that doesn't mean it doesn't remind me of a north korean or perhaps Russian work camp.

secretly instilling propaganda into the young minds.

Propaganda like history and... Algebra II!

[Vashnal]

It shouldn't be the government, that if for sure. It is hard to say because everyone is different, as in their personality. So, as long as it is not the government nor the students (or substitute teachers) running the schools, it doesn't matter.

[Keventle]

Noone. Everyone should self teach themselves. At the most, there should only be: Private schools, homeschooling, Unschooling, or self-teaching.

There is no such thing as a "right to education".

Then I cant wait to see the test score! We might be able to slide into belief of Bigfoot and elves!

[The Tundra]

I quite agree.

For one, just getting into the building can be rather unnerving, as more middle schools than ever are implementing security standards. In my area, expect to see brick walls, security cameras, metal detectors, and a couple of cops.

Then there's the classroom experience. From what I've seen, the most abusive teachers are hired to teach at middle schools because (like middle management) it is the area they can do the least harm, theoretically. Even the good teachers at this level, though, are particularly prone to preventing open discussion in favor of providing information that may or may not be accurate.

Add the stress of the students (particularly sixth-graders that have just transitioned from elementary school), and one would find that a middle school might aesthetically resemble a prison more than anything else.

This is the environment we are subjecting children to. At worst this is an abomination. At best this is a sign that things should probably improve.

I've been to a middle school and my experience was quite different. There was one cop, no metal detectors, fairly good teachers, etc. You're generalizing.

most middle schools are shit.

[Keventle]

secretly instilling propaganda into the young minds.

Propaganda like history and... Algebra II!

Remember Hitler? or maybe the little red book? need more? or a history lesson?

[Conservative Idealism]

Noone. Everyone should self teach themselves. At the most, there should only be: Private schools, homeschooling, Unschooling, or self-teaching.

There is no such thing as a "right to education".

It is refreshing to see more of this mindset here than I'm used to, but the fact remains that there is a reasonable right to education in this day and age.

The good news is that it is easier than ever for the affluent to grab. The bad news is that if a good education remains inaccessible to the poor, there will be untold catastrophic effects from the resultant class divides.

I am a fan of government-funded school vouchers and even the existence of public schools, but only to an extent.

[Keventle]

Noone. Everyone should self teach themselves. At the most, there should only be: Private schools, homeschooling, Unschooling, or self-teaching.

There is no such thing as a "right to education".

It is refreshing to see more of this mindset here than I'm used to, but the fact remains that there is a reasonable right to education in this day and age.

The good news is that it is easier than ever for the affluent to grab. The bad news is that if a good education remains inaccessible to the poor, there will be untold catastrophic effects from the resultant class divides.

I am a fan of government-funded school vouchers and even the existence of public schools, but only to an extent.

God Bless you. Thank you for being here!

[Wind in the Willows]

The government.

[Conservative Idealism]

I quite agree.

For one, just getting into the building can be rather unnerving, as more middle schools than ever are implementing security standards. In my area, expect to see brick walls, security cameras, metal detectors, and a couple of cops.

Then there's the classroom experience. From what I've seen, the most abusive teachers are hired to teach at middle schools because (like middle management) it is the area they can do the least harm, theoretically. Even the good teachers at this level, though, are particularly prone to preventing open discussion in favor of providing information that may or may not be accurate.

Add the stress of the students (particularly sixth-graders that have just transitioned from elementary school), and one would find that a middle school might aesthetically resemble a prison more than anything else.

This is the environment we are subjecting children to. At worst this is an abomination. At best this is a sign that things should probably improve.

I've been to a middle school and my experience was quite different. There was one cop, no metal detectors, fairly good teachers, etc. You're generalizing.

Unfortunately, I am not. True, I live in a fairly affluent area and the nearby middle schools are some of the highest-performing in my state. The fact remains that the state of affairs, even there, is less golden than gilded.

[The Sotoan Union]

Propaganda like history and... Algebra II!

Remember Hitler? or maybe the little red book? need more? or a history lesson?

Are you comparing schools to Hitler and Mao or are you saying that schools don't teach about Hitler and Mao? Both are hyperbole.

[Xirtam]

here it is folks.
The best schools in the US are in Texas and in Arizona. Did you also know that they are privately ran? Well there you go, do I need to say more?

Source this.

[United Marxist Nations]

All I know is that there should be a portrait of Hirohito in every classroom.

[Keventle]

here it is folks.
The best schools in the US are in Texas and in Arizona. Did you also know that they are privately ran? Well there you go, do I need to say more?

Source this.
http://www.usnews.com/education/best-high-schools

[Genivaria]

To which the response came that this was an argument for the Federal government to take over education

Yeah that was me. I stand by that.