Religion, Good or Bad?

[Anollasia]

Neither good or bad, it's neutral.

[Straughn]

Also, religion's neutral

By definition, it most certainly ain't.

end of story.

apparently not.

[Straughn]

Neither good or bad, it's neutral.

No, it isn't. That's why the majority include those words as serious assertive topics of behaviour, discipline and consequence. Seriously.

[Snookums]

Hello everyone!! This is my first time posting a thread, and wanted to ask. What would the world look like without religion?

This is purely personal opinion.
If you make a statement (e.g. Religion is good) please make a reason and why its good (e.g. Religion is good, because...)
Try too keep this civilised and provide evidence of your beliefs.
Don't repeat your statements, these'll be regarded as spam and made not applicable.
Pictures are allowed if you so want them.

Religion is the last socially acceptable form of scizophrenia. With a little luck one day it will be recognized and they will get the help they need, but that doesn't mean they're evil people, just ill.

[Kedri]

Ugh. Here comes the people that say "religion has killed so many people", when atheism, (U.S.S.R.,PRC,Pol pot,) has killed just as many.

How can you say atheism was the main reason behind the U.S.S.R.'s (or any of the others) genocide?

Stalin. At the bottom of the link's page. http://www.creationtips.com/tyrants.html

[Quackquackhonk]

What would the world look like without religion?

probably be a little less silly.

If you make a statement (e.g. Religion is good) please make a reason and why its good (e.g. Religion is good, because...)

religion is bad because it's a dated concept.

[Kedri]

What would the world look like without religion?

probably be a little less silly.

If you make a statement (e.g. Religion is good) please make a reason and why its good (e.g. Religion is good, because...)

religion is bad because it's a dated concept.

Define dated concept.

[Quackquackhonk]

probably be a little less silly.



religion is bad because it's a dated concept.

Define dated concept.

look up the words 'dated' and 'concept' on google, then piece it together yourself?

seems to be what everyone else on nsg does.

[Taoju]

Good in some cases, bad in most, otherwise the followers are usually to blame. A religion is usually considered bad as a result of the followers. Well, at least it seems to be.

[Scaliska]

I think religion is good because without it we wouldn't know what to believe in, we would have no hope, and/or not have any since of right from wrong. I am a Christian and without it I probably wouldn't be here today.

[Luepola]

Religion is not so black and white, it is bad for people to contextualize religion to purposefully create a war cause or any violence, however religion is not 'telling' the person to kill, in fact you can take a holy book any way you like, but the more caring and generous perceptions of religion are obviously better than the more aggressive hateful ones. Which is why the Crusades, Nazism, and Salem Witch trials were conducted by people stating the same religious book as the one that others use as a reason to give to the poor and help each other in the pursuit of success in life

Naziism is not based on Christianity. Albert Speer, Hitler's chief architect, stated that Naziism was based on 'modern, secular science', and that Christianity was ill-suitable, incomparable, and incompatible with Naziism.

Just wanted to make that clear.

[Imperium Sidhicum]

Good for the most part. Morals introduced by religion have made our society what it is today.

...Did it?

What are these values that religion introduced?

The notion that all human beings are equal and deserve their lives and freedoms, for example, has it's origins in Christianity.

[Estado Paulista]

...Did it?

What are these values that religion introduced?

The notion that all human beings are equal and deserve their lives and freedoms, for example, has it's origins in Christianity.

No. It has origins in the French and the American revolutions.

[Lydenburg]

Hello everyone!! This is my first time posting a thread, and wanted to ask. What would the world look like without religion?

This is purely personal opinion.
If you make a statement (e.g. Religion is good) please make a reason and why its good (e.g. Religion is good, because...)
Try too keep this civilised and provide evidence of your beliefs.
Don't repeat your statements, these'll be regarded as spam and made not applicable.
Pictures are allowed if you so want them.

Why is it that first time posters always pick an overused NSG cliche for their #1 thread?

Why, why, why, why, why, why, why?

[Felbah]

Religion can be good. For example, religion is a god way to express belief in a divine purpose, but it can get out of hand.

For example, in every religion, there are religious fanatics, for example, the LRA, Al-Qaeda, Buddhist monks who self-immolate, etcetera.

But then again, what is religion? Almost no religious traditions which I know of call for a person to be religious. They call for personal belief in a set of rules, a deity, a set of circumstances, anything.

So what is religion? Religion is simply a human reaction to a divine presence. And while it can get out of hand, at other times it helps to organize people to do good things.

No-one can deny that many religious people have done good things. It is an obvious fact. But just as religion can be good, it can also be bad.

[Darwinish Brentsylvania]

it's good, it gives you hope so you don't fear death and know what to do, except for crusades and holy wars and other religious violence, but religion is good

[Luxew]

It depends. For the most part, religions such as Christianity, Islam, etc indoctrine people; believing one shouldn't accept sexual minorities, people who follow other religions, or just being different. Buddhist and Hindu sects are okay with me (less so Hindu lately), as they promote peace and acceptance, where others sometimes do the opposite.

Basically, in Christianity, I will be more accepting towards Protestant sects (most of the time, depends) or ones that promote equality above all.

[4years]

Religion is not so black and white, it is bad for people to contextualize religion to purposefully create a war cause or any violence, however religion is not 'telling' the person to kill, in fact you can take a holy book any way you like, but the more caring and generous perceptions of religion are obviously better than the more aggressive hateful ones. Which is why the Crusades, Nazism, and Salem Witch trials were conducted by people stating the same religious book as the one that others use as a reason to give to the poor and help each other in the pursuit of success in life

1. Naziism is not based on Christianity. 2. Albert Speer, Hitler's chief architect, stated that Naziism was based on 'modern, secular science', and 3. that Christianity was ill-suitable, incomparable, and incompatible with Naziism.

Just wanted to make that clear.

1. The program the Nazi party (see point 24) would like to disagree as it enshrines "positive christianity" as a tenant of Nazism.

2. Hitler's own statements hold more weight:

"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before in the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice.... And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.... When I go out in the morning and see these men standing in their queues and look into their pinched faces, then I believe I would be no Christian, but a very devil if I felt no pity for them, if I did not, as did our Lord two thousand years ago, turn against those by whom to-day this poor people is plundered and exploited."
-Adolf Hitler, speech in Munich, 12 April 1922

I can provide more quotes if you like.

3. I take it that is why the Nazis established the German Reich Christian Church in 1933?

[Etha]

Subjective.

[Lydenburg]

1. Naziism is not based on Christianity. 2. Albert Speer, Hitler's chief architect, stated that Naziism was based on 'modern, secular science', and 3. that Christianity was ill-suitable, incomparable, and incompatible with Naziism.

Just wanted to make that clear.

1. The program the Nazi party (see point 24) would like to disagree as it enshrines "positive christianity" as a tenant of Nazism.

2. Hitler's own statements hold more weight:

"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before in the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice.... And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.... When I go out in the morning and see these men standing in their queues and look into their pinched faces, then I believe I would be no Christian, but a very devil if I felt no pity for them, if I did not, as did our Lord two thousand years ago, turn against those by whom to-day this poor people is plundered and exploited."
-Adolf Hitler, speech in Munich, 12 April 1922

I can provide more quotes if you like.

3. I take it that is why the Nazis established the German Reich Christian Church in 1933?

I thought the Nazis tried to worship the sun.

[4years]

...Did it?

What are these values that religion introduced?

The notion that all human beings are equal and deserve their lives and freedoms, for example, has it's origins in Christianity Ancient Greek philosophy

Fixed for accuracy.

[Luxew]

I think religion is good because without it we wouldn't know what to believe in, we would have no hope, and/or not have any since of right from wrong. I am a Christian and without it I probably wouldn't be here today.

Not entirely. I'm an atheist, and I know what to believe in. I know that a supernatural deity didn't create Earth and the universe, but through small scientific steps, a bang occured, forming a basis of human life the would occur eons later.

But if religion kept you from committing suicide, I say that is a positive side.

[Conkerials]

Bad. For any foreseeable reason, just bad. While I in no way agree with Stalin's genocide of the religious, had religion never been conceived, quite frankly he would have no religious people to slaughter. The Holy Ways never would've happened, I bet very much that WWII would've been very different, as far as the holocaust goes. Imagine a world where religion does not hold back the scientific development of humanity! Where people cannot be discriminated against for their religion, where homosexuals, undoubtedly, would be more free to be who they are, where race might not be as important of a factor as it has played in history! Where the scientists, like Galileo, would've been free to pursue* a life of intellectual marvel. Imagine the splendors!

*Edit: Was pursuit.

[Sahrani DR]

This lacks a source.

I think this is common knowledge.

It doesn't matter what you think; if somebody asks for a source, you have to give one.

Even if they are questioning the Earth being a sphere.

[4years]

1. The program the Nazi party (see point 24) would like to disagree as it enshrines "positive christianity" as a tenant of Nazism.

2. Hitler's own statements hold more weight:

"My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. In boundless love as a Christian and as a man I read through the passage which tells us how the Lord at last rose in His might and seized the scourge to drive out of the Temple the brood of vipers and adders. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison. To-day, after two thousand years, with deepest emotion I recognize more profoundly than ever before in the fact that it was for this that He had to shed His blood upon the Cross. As a Christian I have no duty to allow myself to be cheated, but I have the duty to be a fighter for truth and justice.... And if there is anything which could demonstrate that we are acting rightly it is the distress that daily grows. For as a Christian I have also a duty to my own people.... When I go out in the morning and see these men standing in their queues and look into their pinched faces, then I believe I would be no Christian, but a very devil if I felt no pity for them, if I did not, as did our Lord two thousand years ago, turn against those by whom to-day this poor people is plundered and exploited."
-Adolf Hitler, speech in Munich, 12 April 1922

I can provide more quotes if you like.

3. I take it that is why the Nazis established the German Reich Christian Church in 1933?

I thought the Nazis tried to worship the sun.

Some pagan elements poked their head up but were condemned by the Nazi leadership. Nazism was always based on Christian fanaticism.

"The National Socialist State professes its allegiance to positive Christianity. It will be its honest endeavour to protect both the great Christian Confessions in their rights, to secure them from interference with their doctrines, and in their duties to constitute a harmony with the views and the exigencies of the State of to-day."
-Hitler, 26 June 1934, to Catholic bishops assuring them that he would take action against paganism