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Postby United Misotheist » Wed Jan 01, 2014 1:46 pm

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Cannabis is addictive. I am a staunch believer in a second prohibition of alcohol, and I absolutely hate tobacco and I believe it should be illegal as well. Cannabis is a drug that causes hallucinations, it even can kill pain, which is a bad thing. Any drug that has the power to create powerful hallucinations, and kills pain should be illegal. Heck if we legalized Cannabis we would have to legalize PCP, Cocaine, Meth, and all the other drugs to. Are going to say those drugs are harmful? I would hope so. If we legalize one we have to legalize more. These libertarian cry babies always want more so whats going to stop them from demanding Meth and Cocaine too?


Who cares?

Johnny Drug Dealer James or Sammy Smokes Crack Sally isn't going to affect you in any way.

I mean, look at Portugal. They aren't a drug-filled hellhole, are they?


They are affecting me by infringing upon my right to safety. Violence caused by drug dealers is horrible and it affects everyone. PCP is a drug in which a policeman has to shoot a person on it at least five to six times before they go down. Cocaine is a life ruining addiction. What happens when you run out of money to support your addiction? You'll run right to the welfare office and use that money to snort more line. Making drugs illegal stops addiction, and it keeps people off of welfare. The more people who use drugs the more welfare recipients there shall be.
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Postby Terra Sector Union » Wed Jan 01, 2014 1:47 pm

Absurrania wrote:
United Misotheist wrote:Cannabis is addictive. I am a staunch believer in a second prohibition of alcohol, and I absolutely hate tobacco and I believe it should be illegal as well. Cannabis is a drug that causes hallucinations, it even can kill pain, which is a bad thing. Any drug that has the power to create powerful hallucinations, and kills pain should be illegal. Heck if we legalized Cannabis we would have to legalize PCP, Cocaine, Meth, and all the other drugs to. Are you going to say those drugs are harmful? I would hope so. If we legalize one we have to legalize more. These libertarian cry babies always want more so whats going to stop them from demanding Meth and Cocaine too?


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-At least 2 Years prison time(exceptions for mentally ill and drug addicts turned dealers), but no more than 10 years, with 2,000 - 6,000 hours of community service on top of their jail sentence
-Death sentence to all producers except for those that are mentally ill or can give extensive information on at least four other producers. The latter gets 10-25 years with mental rehabilitation. The former gets 25 to life with no contact with the outside world
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-Mental examination to determine mental health, along with background checks for signs of neglect and abuse
-No dry rehabilitation. Weaning instead. Buyers not released until they are given approval by government.
-Job after rehabilitation.

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I'm in somewhat of an agreement. Better than legalizing but execution for all is suitable enough.
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Postby Des-Bal » Wed Jan 01, 2014 1:47 pm

Yes Im Biop wrote:
Gurenteed. My Buddy Larry was annoyed when Colorado legalized pot cause it meant he was gonna lose business in the future (Mind you he just grows and sells pot, but still makes a KILLING)


They call it weed because it grows so fucking easily, it has absolutely no scarcity value it would be worthless if it wasn't illegal or heavily regulated.
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Postby Yes Im Biop » Wed Jan 01, 2014 1:47 pm

United Misotheist wrote:
Blasveck wrote:
Who cares?

Johnny Drug Dealer James or Sammy Smokes Crack Sally isn't going to affect you in any way.

I mean, look at Portugal. They aren't a drug-filled hellhole, are they?


They are affecting me by infringing upon my right to safety. Violence caused by drug dealers is horrible and it affects everyone. PCP is a drug in which a policeman has to shoot a person on it at least five to six times before they go down. Cocaine is a life ruining addiction. What happens when you run out of money to support your addiction? You'll run right to the welfare office and use that money to snort more line. Making drugs illegal stops addiction, and it keeps people off of welfare. The more people who use drugs the more welfare recipients there shall be.


Violence caused by drugs due to them being illegal. Nip the cause, not help the problem.
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Postby Absurrania » Wed Jan 01, 2014 1:48 pm

Nervium wrote:
Yes, 3 haters of Human Rights, great.

You're getting there.


Ignore guys like this. I mean legalizing cannabis, understandably liberal. Making it a human right to have cannabis... :lol2:

I do MT, PMT, PT, but not FT, PMT, or FanT. Too many blurred lines and people with overactive imaginations.
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Postby Des-Bal » Wed Jan 01, 2014 1:48 pm

United Misotheist wrote:They are affecting me by infringing upon my right to safety. Violence caused by drug dealers is horrible and it affects everyone. PCP is a drug in which a policeman has to shoot a person on it at least five to six times before they go down. Cocaine is a life ruining addiction. What happens when you run out of money to support your addiction? You'll run right to the welfare office and use that money to snort more line. Making drugs illegal stops addiction, and it keeps people off of welfare. The more people who use drugs the more welfare recipients there shall be.


The only reason drug dealers have jobs is because drugs are illegal.
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Postby Yes Im Biop » Wed Jan 01, 2014 1:48 pm

Des-Bal wrote:
Yes Im Biop wrote:
Gurenteed. My Buddy Larry was annoyed when Colorado legalized pot cause it meant he was gonna lose business in the future (Mind you he just grows and sells pot, but still makes a KILLING)


They call it weed because it grows so fucking easily, it has absolutely no scarcity value it would be worthless if it wasn't illegal or heavily regulated.


Our ditch's are full of it XD, When they burn the ditch's holy hell does it stink
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Postby Hathradic States » Wed Jan 01, 2014 1:48 pm

I'm Hath, and I support this law.

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Postby Terra Sector Union » Wed Jan 01, 2014 1:49 pm

Absurrania wrote:
Nervium wrote:
Yes, 3 haters of Human Rights, great.

You're getting there.


Ignore guys like this. I mean legalizing cannabis, understandably liberal. Making it a human right to have cannabis... :lol2:

Remember, we're human too.
For so long, Mankind has been plagued by division. Division by culture, creed, skin color, religion and nationality. These very divisions have been the cause of most human conflicts. But in the age of globalism, we can finally have that chance to implement a world government where all human beings are seen as equals. Isn't that what everyone wants? World peace? I do. You should support that too. It may not end all conflicts, but the reductions of Man on Man violence will be at an all time low when the entire planet gets administered by one governing body.


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Postby Absurrania » Wed Jan 01, 2014 1:49 pm

Terra Sector Union wrote:I'm in somewhat of an agreement. Better than legalizing but execution for all is suitable enough.


Ditch your crazy hardline execution stance and I'll ad your name to the dotted line.

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Postby Republic of Greater America » Wed Jan 01, 2014 1:50 pm

Luveria wrote:
Republic of Greater America wrote:Exactly. This is America, and if idiots want to smoke weed, as long as they do it privately I don't care. Likewise, if they end up with cancer and diseases, like their tobacco smoking and alcoholic brethren, then these types should not get any taxpayer money for their healthcare. If you want to destroy your health, fine, but don't expect me to pay for it.


"If you want to destroy your health by being a fatass and eating McDonalds, fine! But don't expect me to pay for it. No healthcare for you."

Nothing wrong with that.

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Postby Nervium » Wed Jan 01, 2014 1:51 pm

Absurrania wrote:
Nervium wrote:
Yes, 3 haters of Human Rights, great.

You're getting there.


Ignore guys like this. I mean legalizing cannabis, understandably liberal. Making it a human right to have cannabis... :lol2:


Lol k thx bai.

Actually never said any such thing, the punishments you advocate however, go against human rights.
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Postby Luveria » Wed Jan 01, 2014 1:53 pm

United Misotheist wrote:
Blasveck wrote:
Who cares?

Johnny Drug Dealer James or Sammy Smokes Crack Sally isn't going to affect you in any way.

I mean, look at Portugal. They aren't a drug-filled hellhole, are they?


They are affecting me by infringing upon my right to safety.


Then legalize it.

United Misotheist wrote: Violence caused by drug dealers is horrible and it affects everyone.


Then legalize it.

United Misotheist wrote:PCP is a drug in which a policeman has to shoot a person on it at least five to six times before they go down.


1) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yellow_journalism

2) You know alcohol is linked to domestic violence? You want to ban alcohol too? Of course.


United Misotheist wrote: Cocaine is a life ruining addiction.


Not more than alcohol is. That's what all researchers have concluded.

United Misotheist wrote:What happens when you run out of money to support your addiction?


What?

United Misotheist wrote:You'll run right to the welfare office and use that money to snort more line.


...

United Misotheist wrote: Making drugs illegal stops addiction, and it keeps people off of welfare.


No, it's exactly the opposite.

United Misotheist wrote:The more people who use drugs the more welfare recipients there shall be.


Citation needed. Stop making up things.

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Postby Luveria » Wed Jan 01, 2014 1:54 pm

Republic of Greater America wrote:
Luveria wrote:
"If you want to destroy your health by being a fatass and eating McDonalds, fine! But don't expect me to pay for it. No healthcare for you."

Nothing wrong with that.


Yes there is...

"You took a risk to your health by going skateboarding and broke your leg? No healthcare for you."

Lets just deny everyone healthcare.

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Wed Jan 01, 2014 1:55 pm

People use more drugs when drugs are illegal.
Countries that have legalised or decriminalised drug use have seen user rates fall.
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Postby Meritocratic States » Wed Jan 01, 2014 1:56 pm

Luveria wrote:
Republic of Greater America wrote:Nothing wrong with that.


Yes there is...

"You took a risk to your health by going skateboarding and broke your leg? No healthcare for you."

Lets just deny everyone healthcare.


Or

"You took a risk to your health by participating in NASCAR and left you critically injured in a crash? No healthcare for you."
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Postby Terra Sector Union » Wed Jan 01, 2014 1:57 pm

Absurrania wrote:
Terra Sector Union wrote:I'm in somewhat of an agreement. Better than legalizing but execution for all is suitable enough.


Ditch your crazy hardline execution stance and I'll ad your name to the dotted line.

I'm afraid I can't. I stand by my beliefs. Hey, at least we all believe in fighting drug use.
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Postby United Misotheist » Wed Jan 01, 2014 1:57 pm

I personally believe that the dealers are just a small part of the problem. They are like a more violent version of a cashier. The real problem lies in the people who buy the drug for their own use. We should target the users not the dealers, because if you arrest a stores customers they will have no more people to sell to. We should stop all programs that target distribution, and target consumption. Lower jail sentences for dealers if they make agreements with police, 3 years at most. But for the users, no mercy, 20-30 years at most. The users are the real monsters, not the people in charge of the operation. Think about for a second, if you see a store for instance, no one is forcing you to go inside the store, so if buy something from that store, its your fault for coming in and buying something in the first place.
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Postby Yes Im Biop » Wed Jan 01, 2014 1:57 pm

Imperializt Russia wrote:People use more drugs when drugs are illegal.
Countries that have legalised or decriminalised drug use have seen user rates fall.


Better example
Would you rather
Go out, drink with friends, probably drive drunk, and get busted
Or
Your parents let you drink your mind out so long as you stay at home
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Postby Blasveck » Wed Jan 01, 2014 1:58 pm

United Misotheist wrote:
Blasveck wrote:
Who cares?

Johnny Drug Dealer James or Sammy Smokes Crack Sally isn't going to affect you in any way.

I mean, look at Portugal. They aren't a drug-filled hellhole, are they?


They are affecting me by infringing upon my right to safety. Violence caused by drug dealers is horrible and it affects everyone. PCP is a drug in which a policeman has to shoot a person on it at least five to six times before they go down. Cocaine is a life ruining addiction. What happens when you run out of money to support your addiction? You'll run right to the welfare office and use that money to snort more line. Making drugs illegal stops addiction, and it keeps people off of welfare. The more people who use drugs the more welfare recipients there shall be.


Please look at Portugal and then come back to me.
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Postby Wind in the Willows » Wed Jan 01, 2014 1:58 pm

Unitaristic Regions wrote:Good. Now for the other drugs.


No, other drugs are extremely dangerous. Cannabis is harmless.

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Postby Des-Bal » Wed Jan 01, 2014 1:59 pm

United Misotheist wrote:I personally believe that the dealers are just a small part of the problem. They are like a more violent version of a cashier. The real problem lies in the people who buy the drug for their own use. We should target the users not the dealers, because if you arrest a stores customers they will have no more people to sell to. We should stop all programs that target distribution, and target consumption. Lower jail sentences for dealers if they make agreements with police, 3 years at most. But for the users, no mercy, 20-30 years at most. The users are the real monsters, not the people in charge of the operation. Think about for a second, if you see a store for instance, no one is forcing you to go inside the store, so if buy something from that store, its your fault for coming in and buying something in the first place.


1. There are more customers than there are stores.
2. Legalizing is infinitely better.
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Postby Luveria » Wed Jan 01, 2014 1:59 pm

United Misotheist wrote:I personally believe that the dealers are just a small part of the problem. They are like a more violent version of a cashier. The real problem lies in the people who buy the drug for their own use. We should target the users not the dealers, because if you arrest a stores customers they will have no more people to sell to. We should stop all programs that target distribution, and target consumption. Lower jail sentences for dealers if they make agreements with police, 3 years at most. But for the users, no mercy, 20-30 years at most. The users are the real monsters, not the people in charge of the operation. Think about for a second, if you see a store for instance, no one is forcing you to go inside the store, so if buy something from that store, its your fault for coming in and buying something in the first place.


Oh god, you want crime rates to increase significantly?

Congratulations on turning otherwise law-abiding citizens into criminals unable to get a job because of a criminal record. Congratulations for sending them into prisons upon which they emerge as hardened criminals.
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Postby Blasveck » Wed Jan 01, 2014 1:59 pm

Yes Im Biop wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:People use more drugs when drugs are illegal.
Countries that have legalised or decriminalised drug use have seen user rates fall.


Better example
Would you rather
Go out, drink with friends, probably drive drunk, and get busted
Or
Your parents let you drink your mind out so long as you stay at home


Colorado and quite a few other states have the latter legalized.

Alcohol consumption rates among teens fell, IIRC.

Lemme see if I can find my link.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Wed Jan 01, 2014 1:59 pm

United Misotheist wrote:I personally believe that the dealers are just a small part of the problem. They are like a more violent version of a cashier. The real problem lies in the people who buy the drug for their own use. We should target the users not the dealers, because if you arrest a stores customers they will have no more people to sell to. We should stop all programs that target distribution, and target consumption. Lower jail sentences for dealers if they make agreements with police, 3 years at most. But for the users, no mercy, 20-30 years at most. The users are the real monsters, not the people in charge of the operation. Think about for a second, if you see a store for instance, no one is forcing you to go inside the store, so if buy something from that store, its your fault for coming in and buying something in the first place.

Most drug users aren't the guys who wander around with machetes collecting payments.
Usually, that's the dealers.

The only violence I see around where I live is dealers knocking over each other's growhouses.

Dealers are incredulously violent.
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