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Luveria
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Postby Luveria » Wed Jan 01, 2014 9:10 am

Polgrusan wrote:
Luveria wrote:
All drugs should be legal.


WAY too liberal :shock:


No, and it's a right-wing view.

Valcouria wrote:
Luveria wrote:
All drugs should be legal.

And so goes the sensibilities of all mankind, perverted and destroyed by the evils of controlled substances.


Goodness, you sound like a preacher.

Valcouria wrote:Good to know that such people actually support such a thing.


Yes, it is.
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Postby Unitaristic Regions » Wed Jan 01, 2014 9:10 am

Polgrusan wrote:
Unitaristic Regions wrote:
:shock: :shock: :shock: :shock:

MY GOD?! TRYING WEED?! HORRIBLE!!!


Google 'bad effects of canabbis'.


Yeah, yeah, I know, disorientation, rapid heart beat... I tried it 4 times, and it's really an anti-climax. You know what really get's you pumped? X. Now that's some heavy shit.

People have the right to do drugs, and to punish them for hurting themselves is oppression.
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Postby Risottia » Wed Jan 01, 2014 9:10 am

Elke and Elba wrote:Isn't marijuana considered a soft drug?


THC is actually softer than ethanol as drugs go.
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Postby Terra Sector Union » Wed Jan 01, 2014 9:10 am

Herrebrugh wrote:
Valcouria wrote:While I agree with your second point, I must express my disagreement with the first; it's illegal, and every punishment that possessing something illegal carries should be enforced.


Gosh. How about we let people decide for themselves what they want to use and what not.

Again, Hard Drug usage still poses a threat to non-drug users.
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Postby Unitaristic Regions » Wed Jan 01, 2014 9:11 am

Terra Sector Union wrote:
Herrebrugh wrote:
Gosh. How about we let people decide for themselves what they want to use and what not.

Again, Hard Drug usage still poses a threat to non-drug users.


Examples?
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Postby Polgrusan » Wed Jan 01, 2014 9:11 am

Herrebrugh wrote:
Valcouria wrote:While I agree with your second point, I must express my disagreement with the first; it's illegal, and every punishment that possessing something illegal carries should be enforced.


Gosh. How about we let people decide for themselves what they want to use and what not.


Person:I want to eat some poisoned stuff
Mum:No! Stop!
Person:I can do what I want, it's my body.
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Postby Kelinfort » Wed Jan 01, 2014 9:11 am

Valcouria wrote:
Luveria wrote:
All drugs should be legal.

And so goes the sensibilities of all mankind, perverted and destroyed by the evils of controlled substances. Good to know that such people actually support such a thing.

Yeah, because people aren't going to use the anyway /sarcasm

If its legal and regulated, then the government would save money and gain income from the users, which currently they do not. More people won't use hard drugs if they're legalized; make PSA's about the dangers of narcotics, but at least make some money so you don't waste it on DEA and a failed drug war. Use it for rehabilitation.

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Postby Unitaristic Regions » Wed Jan 01, 2014 9:11 am

Herrebrugh wrote:
Valcouria wrote:While I agree with your second point, I must express my disagreement with the first; it's illegal, and every punishment that possessing something illegal carries should be enforced.


Gosh. How about we let people decide for themselves what they want to use and what not.


NO! We must protect people against themselves, as they clearly don't have the responsibility!!!
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Postby Unitaristic Regions » Wed Jan 01, 2014 9:11 am

Polgrusan wrote:
Herrebrugh wrote:
Gosh. How about we let people decide for themselves what they want to use and what not.


Person:I want to eat some poisoned stuff
Mum:No! Stop!
Person:I can do what I want, it's my body.


Well, he can.
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Postby Luveria » Wed Jan 01, 2014 9:11 am

Polgrusan wrote:
Herrebrugh wrote:
Gosh. How about we let people decide for themselves what they want to use and what not.


Person:I want to eat some poisoned stuff
Mum:No! Stop!
Person:I can do what I want, it's my body.


Alcohol is a poison.

Lets stop people from ingesting it, by your reasoning.

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Postby Ashmoria » Wed Jan 01, 2014 9:12 am

my sister and I are toying with the idea of working to get it legalized here in new mexico too. it would be a great boon to the US if the feds dropped all laws against it (other than unauthorized distribution) and let the states decide for themselves whether or not to have it be legal.
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Postby Unitaristic Regions » Wed Jan 01, 2014 9:12 am

Luveria wrote:
Valcouria wrote:[Who cares if it's harmless? Tobacco isn't harmless, and yet that's perfectly legal. No, all drugs should be legal, even the really hard ones]/sarcasm.


All drugs should be legal.


:bow:
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Postby Luveria » Wed Jan 01, 2014 9:12 am

Polgrusan wrote:
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Google the 'bad effects of tobacco', and then advocate outlawing tobacco possession.


I plan on banning smoking, quote me where I said it was Ok.


So authoritarian. Who needs to respect personal freedom.

Risottia wrote:
Polgrusan wrote:
WAY too liberal :shock:


Actually, that's also what libertarians (who are right-wing economically) would have.


That's the only thing I like about libertarians.

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Postby Risottia » Wed Jan 01, 2014 9:13 am

Polgrusan wrote:
Herrebrugh wrote:
Gosh. How about we let people decide for themselves what they want to use and what not.


Person:I want to eat some poisoned stuff
Mum:No! Stop!
Person:I can do what I want, it's my body.

So, according to you, the government is your mum?
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Postby Valcouria » Wed Jan 01, 2014 9:13 am

Kelinfort wrote:
Valcouria wrote:And so goes the sensibilities of all mankind, perverted and destroyed by the evils of controlled substances. Good to know that such people actually support such a thing.

Yeah, because people aren't going to use the anyway /sarcasm

If its legal and regulated, then the government would save money and gain income from the users, which currently they do not. More people won't use hard drugs if they're legalized; make PSA's about the dangers of narcotics, but at least make some money so you don't waste it on DEA and a failed drug war. Use it for rehabilitation.

You legalize it, it won't change anything except that ordinary decent people will have at the stuff; people who use it illegally are usually at the bottom of society already, and tempting the rest of society with it will only have negative consequences.
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Postby Luveria » Wed Jan 01, 2014 9:13 am

Risottia wrote:
Polgrusan wrote:

Person:I want to eat some poisoned stuff
Mum:No! Stop!
Person:I can do what I want, it's my body.

So, according to you, the government is your mum?


They were probably raised by a state-run orphanage.

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Postby Polgrusan » Wed Jan 01, 2014 9:13 am

Luveria wrote:
Polgrusan wrote:

Person:I want to eat some poisoned stuff
Mum:No! Stop!
Person:I can do what I want, it's my body.


Alcohol is a poison.

Lets stop people from ingesting it, by your reasoning.


Quote me where I said I would legalise alchohol...
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Postby Valcouria » Wed Jan 01, 2014 9:13 am

Luveria wrote:
Polgrusan wrote:

Person:I want to eat some poisoned stuff
Mum:No! Stop!
Person:I can do what I want, it's my body.


Alcohol is a poison.

Lets stop people from ingesting it, by your reasoning.

Full supporter of prohibition, right here.
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Postby Terra Sector Union » Wed Jan 01, 2014 9:14 am

Unitaristic Regions wrote:
Terra Sector Union wrote:Again, Hard Drug usage still poses a threat to non-drug users.


Examples?

The most infamous example.
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/face-eati ... d=16470389
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Strobe Talbot. wrote:n the next century (now), nations as we know it will be obsolete; all states will recognize a single global authority and realize national sovereignty wasn’t such a great deal after all.

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Postby Clean Shaven Cowboys » Wed Jan 01, 2014 9:14 am

Polgrusan wrote:
Herrebrugh wrote:
Gosh. How about we let people decide for themselves what they want to use and what not.


Person:I want to eat some poisoned stuff
Mum:No! Stop!
Person:I can do what I want, it's my body.


That you would apply such specious reasoning reveals principally that you don't see how your "mum" parallel precisely proves the contrary of your premise.

The government is not your mum. Adults who have their own place and don't live with their mum and can exercise the magnitude of personal culpability generally associated with adulthood don't need their mum.

Alcohol is toxic. So are cigarettes.

Your opinion is your right, but you sound either very young or like maybe you still think in scenarios that involve a "mum" from helping you decide things.

Not everyone needs that, and while you have a right to opinion, your opinion guides your life, not mine.

And I don't live with my mother.

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Postby Unitaristic Regions » Wed Jan 01, 2014 9:14 am

Valcouria wrote:
Luveria wrote:
Alcohol is a poison.

Lets stop people from ingesting it, by your reasoning.

Full supporter of prohibition, right here.


You would prohibit to protect people against themselves, so you arrogantly assume all people can't judge for themselves.
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Postby Luveria » Wed Jan 01, 2014 9:14 am

Polgrusan wrote:
Luveria wrote:
Alcohol is a poison.

Lets stop people from ingesting it, by your reasoning.


Quote me where I said I would legalise alchohol...



Valcouria wrote:
Luveria wrote:
Alcohol is a poison.

Lets stop people from ingesting it, by your reasoning.

Full supporter of prohibition, right here.


Do either of you two know how alcohol prohibition turned out in the US?

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Postby Risottia » Wed Jan 01, 2014 9:14 am

Unitaristic Regions wrote:
Herrebrugh wrote:
Gosh. How about we let people decide for themselves what they want to use and what not.


NO! We must protect people against themselves, as they clearly don't have the responsibility!!!


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Postby Terra Sector Union » Wed Jan 01, 2014 9:14 am

Valcouria wrote:
Luveria wrote:
Alcohol is a poison.

Lets stop people from ingesting it, by your reasoning.

Full supporter of prohibition, right here.

Same here. Just like in the U.S. alcohol prohibition days.
For so long, Mankind has been plagued by division. Division by culture, creed, skin color, religion and nationality. These very divisions have been the cause of most human conflicts. But in the age of globalism, we can finally have that chance to implement a world government where all human beings are seen as equals. Isn't that what everyone wants? World peace? I do. You should support that too. It may not end all conflicts, but the reductions of Man on Man violence will be at an all time low when the entire planet gets administered by one governing body.


Strobe Talbot. wrote:n the next century (now), nations as we know it will be obsolete; all states will recognize a single global authority and realize national sovereignty wasn’t such a great deal after all.

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Postby Risottia » Wed Jan 01, 2014 9:15 am

Luveria wrote:
Polgrusan wrote:
Quote me where I said I would legalise alchohol...



Valcouria wrote:Full supporter of prohibition, right here.


Do either of you two know how alcohol prohibition turned out in the US?


Terra Sector Union wrote:
Valcouria wrote:Full supporter of prohibition, right here.

Same here. Just like in the U.S. alcohol prohibition days.


Likely they're all prospective emulators of Al Capone.
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