One Third of Americans don't believe in Evolution.

[Mavorpen]

Impossible. This is NSG.

You have a point.

Personally I'm surprised we went as long as we did without a "creationism vs. evolution" thread.

[Big Jim P]

You have a point.

Personally I'm surprised we went as long as we did without a "creationism vs. evolution" thread.

It has been awhile, hasn't it?

[Mike the Progressive]

They must like it. They keeping coming around or staying.....

NSG bringing Creationists and Atheists together into Sado-Masochistic Relationships?

That implies some sort of balance. What I normally see is one or two creationists, and a few dozen atheists.

[Vitaphone Racing]

You have a point.

Personally I'm surprised we went as long as we did without a "creationism vs. evolution" thread.

It's sort of a creationism vs. evolution lite thread, the whole topic seems to be based on creationism being a farce.

[Neo Industrium]

One Third of Americans don't "believe in Evolution."

"The thing about science is that it's true, whether you believe in it or not"
-Neil deGrasse Tyson

[Alcase]

A third??

Surprising..

[UED]

I expected like it to be around 40-50%...

[The Rebel Alliances]

So, we have some religious people.

Why is this a problem?

[Genivaria]

So, we have some religious people.

Why is this a problem?

People encouraging anti-science is an issue.

[Neo Industrium]

But let's blame this on religion. After all, then the actual problem can be masked, because religion's always going to be around, and makes an easy scapegoat.

Look if we just abolish religion, everything will be better! Kids will be smarter, people more tolerant, homosexuals more homosexulally. Everybody will have the same job with the same pay and everybody will get laid!

COMMUNISM!

[The Rebel Alliances]

So, we have some religious people.

Why is this a problem?

People encouraging anti-science is an issue.

'Anti-Science'? As a Christian, I also believe that if I jump off of a 30 story building gravity will splatter my @$$ on the pavement.

The fact of being Christian does not make one any less intelligent or accepting of Science as anyone else.
Surely some will weigh science with their personal beliefs but doing so does not mean they reject science. And even if some christians do not believe their relative was an ape. It is hardly a problem.

[Mavorpen]

People encouraging anti-science is an issue.

'Anti-Science'? As a Christian, I also believe that if I jump off of a 30 story building gravity will splatter my @$$ on the pavement.

The fact of being Christian does not make one any less intelligent or accepting of Science as anyone else.
Surely some will weigh science with their personal beliefs but doing so does not mean they reject science. And even if some christians do not believe their relative was an ape. It is hardly a problem.

Your relative IS an ape. Humans are apes.

Love how you try to convince us you're not anti-science and then make such a glaring error.

[The Rebel Alliances]

Love how you take an animal that has thumbs and immediately make it your cousin. Are there similarities? Sure. But an ape is an ape is an ape. And a human, is quite frankly so far above it that regardless if at some point at the dawn of time we were a little hairier is pretty moot. And really holds no relevance at all.

[Nordwalsh]

Time to nuke Texas..

[UED]

Time to nuke Texas..

where did that come from?
still lol

[The Rebel Alliances]

Time to nuke Texas..

where did that come from?
still lol

From an atheist.

[Mavorpen]

Love how you take an animal that has thumbs and immediately make it your cousin. Are there similarities? Sure. But an ape is an ape is an ape.

Apes consist of the families Hylobatidae and Hominidae. Guess what family humans fall under.

[UED]

where did that come from?
still lol

From an atheist.

PAPIST! TAKE HIM DOWN!

[Chinese Regions]

Love how you take an animal that has thumbs and immediately make it your cousin. Are there similarities? Sure. But an ape is an ape is an ape. And a human, is quite frankly so far above it that regardless if at some point at the dawn of time we were a little hairier is pretty moot. And really holds no relevance at all.

Humans are apes by definition, humans were classed as such long before Darwin, by Carl Linnaeus, the layer of the foundations of modern biological nomenclature.
Kingdom: Animalia
Phylum: Chordata
Class: Mammalia
Order: Primates
Family: Hominidae (All great apes including Chimpanzees, Orangutans, Gorillas as well as us humans)
Tribe: Hominini
Genus: Homo
Species: H. sapiens

[Nordwalsh]

From an atheist.

Of course.

Or maybe just a xenophobic Wisconsinite.

[The Rebel Alliances]

Love how you take an animal that has thumbs and immediately make it your cousin. Are there similarities? Sure. But an ape is an ape is an ape.

Apes consist of the families Hylobatidae and Hominidae. Guess what family humans fall under.

Yeah, I get the Scientific term 'Homosapians'. Even so, humanity is still nowhere near the same level as a chimp. Scientist can place the word human wherever they wish.

We were put their due to some very basic similarities. But as far as I can tell, nothing more. You wont find any chimpanzees at my family reunion regardless.

[UED]

Apes consist of the families Hylobatidae and Hominidae. Guess what family humans fall under.

Yeah, I get the Scientific term 'Homosapians'. Even so, humanity is still nowhere near the same level as a chimp. Scientist can place the word human wherever they wish.

We were put their due to some very basic similarities. But as far as I can tell, nothing more. You wont find any chimpanzees at my family reunion regardless.

Go back maybe 5-25 million years and you might

[Mavorpen]

Yeah, I get the Scientific term 'Homosapians'.

Great, so apes are humans and therefore I was right. Thanks for confirming that.

[Vazdania]

While nearly two-thirds of Americans say humans have evolved over time, a third of U.S. adults disagree, according to new survey results from the Pew Research Center.

The Pew Research Religion & Public Life Project report released Monday found that 33% think "humans and other living things have existed in their present form since the beginning of time." Sixty percent agreed with evolution.

Among those who agree with human evolution, about half attribute it to "natural processes such as natural selection." Whereas, 24% of adults say "a supreme being guided the evolution of living things."

The survey also found disagreement across political and religious lines.

Among white evangelical Protestants, 64% say that humans have existed in their present form since the beginning of time. The survey found that half of black Protestants responded the same way. Whereas 78% of white mainline Protestants say that humans and other living things have evolved over time.

Seventy-six percent of the religiously unaffiliated, 68% of white non-Hispanic Catholics and 53% of Hispanic Catholics agreed with evolution.

Republicans are less likely to say humans evolved compared to Democrats or independents, Less than half of conservatives or 43% agreed with evolution compared to 67% of liberals and 65% of independents.

The survey is based on telephone interviews conducted March 21-April 8, 2013, with a national sample of 1,983 adults. The margin of error for the results is plus or minus 3 percentage points.

Source:http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation-now/2013/12/30/pew-research-human-evolution-survey/4258083/

I personally see this as the sad result of decades of attempted Obscurantism in the nation's schools at the hands of Creationism advocates and the likes of that.

And what say ye, NSG?

I laugh

[Chinese Regions]

People encouraging anti-science is an issue.

'Anti-Science'? As a Christian, I also believe that if I jump off of a 30 story building gravity will splatter my @$$ on the pavement.

The fact of being Christian does not make one any less intelligent or accepting of Science as anyone else.
Surely some will weigh science with their personal beliefs but doing so does not mean they reject science. And even if some christians do not believe their relative was an ape. It is hardly a problem.

You reject an observable fact. It is an observable fact that offspring are not exact clones of parents, which each successive generation, there are mutations, and it is a fact that the best traits suited for survival survive.
If you have a sieve of randomly sized stones, the smaller ones will fall through the larger ones remain because they are larger, they have been "selected" if you will, they've been filtered because they fit the criteria, the size of the holes in the sieve.
Things that are are better adapted (not necessarily stronger or smarter) to the environment survive because they fit the criteria.