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Postby Riiser-Larsen » Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:19 pm

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Well, if the human body were designed, I would say it was an inelegant design.


I'd be a creationist if there were a section of the Bible stating that God was high as fuck when he created the universe and the contents thereof.

I mean, it would certainly make more sense that way.

No, given the existence of the Surinam Toad it's more likely that he was tripping, not high.
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Postby Esternial » Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:23 pm

Big Jim P wrote:
-The Unified Earth Governments- wrote:I want to say it is ironic, but I am not sure if it would fit :|


Well, if the human body were designed, I would say it was an inelegant design.

I'm still not able to absorb my daily nutrient requirements through my skin.

Damn it.

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Postby YellowApple » Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:28 pm

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Well, if the human body were designed, I would say it was an inelegant design.

I'm still not able to absorb my daily nutrient requirements through my skin.

Damn it.


I still have nutrient requirements, and can't just tap into holy power whenever desired.

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Postby 4years » Fri Jan 17, 2014 10:59 pm

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Esternial wrote:I'm still not able to absorb my daily nutrient requirements through my skin.

Damn it.


I still have nutrient requirements, and can't just tap into holy power whenever desired.


I have mastered the tapping into holy power thing, but I can't unleash divine power and smite creationists over the internet until I reach level 4,456 and evolve into Metagod . :(
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Postby YellowApple » Fri Jan 17, 2014 11:01 pm

4years wrote:
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I still have nutrient requirements, and can't just tap into holy power whenever desired.


I have mastered the tapping into holy power thing, but I can't unleash divine power and smite creationists over the internet until I reach level 4,456 and evolve into Metagod . :(


Bummer.

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Postby The Alma Mater » Sat Jan 18, 2014 12:46 am

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Well, if the human body were designed, I would say it was an inelegant design.


I'd be a creationist if there were a section of the Bible stating that God was high as fuck when he created the universe and the contents thereof.

I mean, it would certainly make more sense that way.

The bible is quite full of people tripping on shrooms and calling it revelations.
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Postby Neutraligon » Sat Jan 18, 2014 1:18 am

Sociobiology wrote:
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I mentioned in this thread that the idea of God may not even be a person or entity, but the force that drives all science to work with each other. I know it sounds like I'm snorting peyote but bear with me, no scientific process can happen by itself without a greater or equal force driving it.

yes they can, that's kinda the point.

For example, the idea of gravity is explained to be the attraction of a small object to a much bigger one (ie the Earth's core). This happens through magnetic molecules,

uh no that's not how gravity works

see what happens when you don't understand something, you fit in whatever explanation makes you the most comfortable.


Last I heard, we weren't completely sure how exactly gravity works, unlike evolution. I had heard of the idea that mass distorts space, but not much beyond that. Gravity is also the only force that doesn't have an opposite. Am I right about that (being a mechanical engineer it doesn't matter where it comes from or how it works, it only matters that it exists)?
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Postby Sociobiology » Sat Jan 18, 2014 7:48 am

Neutraligon wrote:
Sociobiology wrote:yes they can, that's kinda the point.


uh no that's not how gravity works

see what happens when you don't understand something, you fit in whatever explanation makes you the most comfortable.


Last I heard, we weren't completely sure how exactly gravity works, unlike evolution. I had heard of the idea that mass distorts space, but not much beyond that. Gravity is also the only force that doesn't have an opposite.

1. gravity is not a force
2. define opposite, because none of the fundamental interactions have opposites.
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Postby Arkinesia » Sat Jan 18, 2014 8:08 am

It's getting better, then.

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Postby Ifreann » Sat Jan 18, 2014 8:15 am

Bottle wrote:I would be honestly surprised if more than a quarter of Americans could accurately define evolution.

The title is misleading. The one third is the people who deny evolution entirely. Add in the people who believe that evolution is something magical that their god is doing and it's probably well over 50% of Americans that don't believe in actual evolution.


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Big Jim P wrote:
Well, if the human body were designed, I would say it was an inelegant design.


I'd be a creationist if there were a section of the Bible stating that God was high as fuck when he created the universe and the contents thereof.

I mean, it would certainly make more sense that way.

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Postby Czechanada » Sat Jan 18, 2014 8:18 am

I think it's high time to start teaching children biology immediately from birth.
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Postby Big Jim P » Sat Jan 18, 2014 8:22 am

Czechanada wrote:I think it's high time to start teaching children biology immediately from birth.


Not just biology, but science in general. We should leave them to choose delusional superstitions after they reach adulthood.
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Postby Ifreann » Sat Jan 18, 2014 8:40 am

Czechanada wrote:I think it's high time to start teaching children biology immediately from birth.

Why wait? There are products designed to transmit sound into the womb, we could start teaching them biology as soon as they develop a sense of hearing.

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Postby Chinese Regions » Sat Jan 18, 2014 8:52 am

Sociobiology wrote:
Chinese Regions wrote:Having, not being, evolution has a law,.

the law of evolution describes evolution, not a derivative, not some connected concept, actual evolution, therefore evolution is a law.

If a law describes a phenomenon , the phenomenon doesn't become a law, the phenomenon gets a law, evolution by definition is a phenomenon and cannot be a law, it can however be described by laws.
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The idea/observation doesn't become the theory/law itself, the idea/observation gets a theory/law to explain/describe it.
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Postby Chinese Regions » Sat Jan 18, 2014 8:57 am

Sociobiology wrote:
Neutraligon wrote:
Last I heard, we weren't completely sure how exactly gravity works, unlike evolution. I had heard of the idea that mass distorts space, but not much beyond that. Gravity is also the only force that doesn't have an opposite.

1. gravity is not a force
2. define opposite, because none of the fundamental interactions have opposites.
I think we said something about educating yourself before you jump to conclusions.

I think he mean's it can only be attractive/negative, two magnets can attract and repel one another but two masses can only be attracted to one another, not repelled.
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Postby Chinese Regions » Sat Jan 18, 2014 8:57 am

Big Jim P wrote:
-The Unified Earth Governments- wrote:I want to say it is ironic, but I am not sure if it would fit :|


Well, if the human body were designed, I would say it was an inelegant design.

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Postby Lordieth » Sat Jan 18, 2014 9:08 am

You don't have to believe in evolution. It's a fact. You don't have to believe in gravity either, but if you jump off a cliff, expect gravity to believe in you.
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Postby Great Nepal » Sat Jan 18, 2014 9:10 am

Chinese Regions wrote:
Sociobiology wrote:1. gravity is not a force
2. define opposite, because none of the fundamental interactions have opposites.
I think we said something about educating yourself before you jump to conclusions.

I think he mean's it can only be attractive/negative, two magnets can attract and repel one another but two masses can only be attracted to one another, not repelled.

Wouldn't that just be because we have only found positive mass? Surely, a body with negative mass would exert a repulsive force on a body with positive mass (F=(G*-m*m)/r^2 would give you negative force). It would just be like if we didn't find negatively charged bodies; two charged bodies would only attract each other never repeal.
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Postby Esternial » Sat Jan 18, 2014 9:10 am

Lordieth wrote:You don't have to believe in evolution. It's a fact. You don't have to believe in gravity either, but if you jump off a cliff, expect gravity to believe in you.

"I believe in you, Joey!
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Oh God no what have I done..."

I can imagine gravity must be pretty depressed.

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Postby Lordieth » Sat Jan 18, 2014 9:13 am

Esternial wrote:
Lordieth wrote:You don't have to believe in evolution. It's a fact. You don't have to believe in gravity either, but if you jump off a cliff, expect gravity to believe in you.

"I believe in you, Joey!
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Oh God no what have I done..."

I can imagine gravity must be pretty depressed.


Joey just didn't appreciate the gravity of the situation.
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Postby Esternial » Sat Jan 18, 2014 9:14 am

Lordieth wrote:
Esternial wrote:"I believe in you, Joey!
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Oh God no what have I done..."

I can imagine gravity must be pretty depressed.


Joey just didn't appreciate the gravity of the situation.

He probably just hit a low point.

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Postby Ifreann » Sat Jan 18, 2014 9:29 am

Lordieth wrote:You don't have to believe in evolution. It's a fact. You don't have to believe in gravity either, but if you jump off a cliff, expect gravity to believe in you.

That people talk about believing in evolution or not shows just how much influence the creationists have.

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Postby Big Jim P » Sat Jan 18, 2014 9:41 am

Ifreann wrote:
Lordieth wrote:You don't have to believe in evolution. It's a fact. You don't have to believe in gravity either, but if you jump off a cliff, expect gravity to believe in you.

That people talk about believing in evolution or not shows just how much influence the creationists have.


Indeed. You do not believe in reality.
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Postby European Socialist Republic » Sat Jan 18, 2014 9:46 am

Lordieth wrote:You don't have to believe in evolution. It's a fact. You don't have to believe in gravity either, but if you jump off a cliff, expect gravity to believe in you.

There's no such thing as gravity! It's obvious that things fall because a higher intelligence is moving them.

If gravity really existed, then how come planes can fly? Checkmate, Gravitationists!
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Postby Champuluka » Sat Jan 18, 2014 9:48 am

Unilisia wrote:
-The Unified Earth Governments- wrote:Its a shame we all don't subscribe to the most legitimate theory in the regards to the origin in life.

Instead some wish to believe in a book made my primitive jack asses who didn't know what the fuck they were doing.


This is pretty much my opinion on the situation as well, but, I do respect everyone's right to believe whatever the hell they want, even if I don't like what they believe in.



This is also pretty much my opinion

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