One Third of Americans don't believe in Evolution.

[Mavorpen]

That's odd.

Sociobiology stated the definition of a scientific law and gave the law of evolution as an example. You then said that he's wrong and made the incorrect statement that any law must be able to be expressed mathematically. Seems to me that you said exactly what you are now claiming you aren't saying.

Evolution is not a law and neither is The Theory of Evolution via Natural Selection is what I'm saying, theories can exist to explain evolution but they aren't evolution themselves and laws can exit to describe evolution but they are not evolution themselves.
I never said there wasn't any law for evolution, just that evolution isn't a law in its own right, it makes as much sense as calling gravity a law, it isn't, it is a phenomenon of nature and a force, it has a law to explain how it behaves.

Then I'm not sure why you claimed Sociobiology was wrong, because he didn't say anything otherwise in that post. Also, you did imply there isn't a law for evolution by asking for a mathematical description for it.

[Chinese Regions]

Evolution is not a law and neither is The Theory of Evolution via Natural Selection is what I'm saying, theories can exist to explain evolution but they aren't evolution themselves and laws can exit to describe evolution but they are not evolution themselves.
I never said there wasn't any law for evolution, just that evolution isn't a law in its own right, it makes as much sense as calling gravity a law, it isn't, it is a phenomenon of nature and a force, it has a law to explain how it behaves.

Then I'm not sure why you claimed Sociobiology was wrong, because he didn't say anything otherwise in that post. Also, you did imply there isn't a law for evolution by asking for a mathematical description for it.

I asserted that evolution is not a law not that it hasn't got a law.

[Mavorpen]

Then I'm not sure why you claimed Sociobiology was wrong, because he didn't say anything otherwise in that post. Also, you did imply there isn't a law for evolution by asking for a mathematical description for it.

I asserted that evolution is not a law not that it hasn't got a law.

Then again, this doesn't make any sense.

A law is well documented, predictable phenomenon.
examples being law of universal gravitation and the law of evolution.

Wrong, laws can be quantified mathematically i.e. the force of gravity being inversely proportional to the square of the distance between the masses, you can represent that mathematically. Show me the math for evolution then we can call it a law.

"Show me the math for evolution" doesn't make any sense if you're JUST saying the phenomenon isn't a law. Asking for the mathematical representation of evolution is the same as asking for the law, because the law can be represented mathematically. It was essentially the same thing as claiming there is no law of evolution. You may not have intended it to read that way, but that's what it implies based on what the meaning of a scientific law is.

[Spartan Philidelphia]

Can't we just admit that the terminology we use can often be ambiguous and imprecise in meaning?

[Sociobiology]

Then I'm not sure why you claimed Sociobiology was wrong, because he didn't say anything otherwise in that post. Also, you did imply there isn't a law for evolution by asking for a mathematical description for it.

I asserted that evolution is not a law not that it hasn't got a law.

so you don't understand what a law is?
also I gave you the law of evolution.
evolution is a law.
you don't see it much because unless you are a population geneticist the equation is not going to have a lot of meaning to you, Its just easier to express it verbally. {populations change over time}

in science a law is a rigorous description, a theory is a rigorous explanation. therefore evolution, by having a rigorous description, is a law.

[The Carlisle]

I asserted that evolution is not a law not that it hasn't got a law.

so you don't understand what a law is?
also I gave you the law of evolution.
evolution is a law.
you don't see it much because unless you are a population geneticist the equation is not going to have a lot of meaning to you, Its just easier to express it verbally. {populations change over time}

in science a law is a rigorous description, a theory is a rigorous explanation. therefore evolution, by having a rigorous description, is a law.

A law is a description of an observed phenomena.

A theory is an explanation of an observed phenomena.

Please don't bastardize the terms.

[Geilinor]

I asserted that evolution is not a law not that it hasn't got a law.

so you don't understand what a law is?
also I gave you the law of evolution.
evolution is a law.
you don't see it much because unless you are a population geneticist the equation is not going to have a lot of meaning to you, Its just easier to express it verbally. {populations change over time}

in science a law is a rigorous description, a theory is a rigorous explanation. therefore evolution, by having a rigorous description, is a law.

Evolution is an explanation. We know why and how it happens.

[Dyakovo]

so you don't understand what a law is?
also I gave you the law of evolution.
evolution is a law.
you don't see it much because unless you are a population geneticist the equation is not going to have a lot of meaning to you, Its just easier to express it verbally. {populations change over time}

in science a law is a rigorous description, a theory is a rigorous explanation. therefore evolution, by having a rigorous description, is a law.

Evolution is an explanation.

Actually evolution is a natural phenomena. One for which there exists a law and theory.

[Libertariamerica]

Nobody buys into lies anymore, I wouldn't say that evolution never happened but saying that it just happens out of the blue is absurd. For example, a monkey can't just change into a human from thin air. There has to be a cause that they can never prove, whether it's supernatural or molecular.

[Regnum Dominae]

Nobody buys into lies anymore, I wouldn't say that evolution never happened but saying that it just happens out of the blue is absurd. For example, a monkey can't just change into a human from thin air. There has to be a cause that they can never prove, whether it's supernatural or molecular.

That's not how evolution works.

[Dyakovo]

Nobody buys into lies anymore, I wouldn't say that evolution never happened but saying that it just happens out of the blue is absurd. For example, a monkey can't just change into a human from thin air. There has to be a cause that they can never prove, whether it's supernatural or molecular.

Really? Nobody? Seems to me at least one person buys into lies...

[Wolfenium]

Nobody buys into lies anymore, I wouldn't say that evolution never happened but saying that it just happens out of the blue is absurd. For example, a monkey can't just change into a human from thin air. There has to be a cause that they can never prove, whether it's supernatural or molecular.

>God
>Unprovable entity
>Not a lie

You see how contradictory this argument is?

[Libertariamerica]

Nobody buys into lies anymore, I wouldn't say that evolution never happened but saying that it just happens out of the blue is absurd. For example, a monkey can't just change into a human from thin air. There has to be a cause that they can never prove, whether it's supernatural or molecular.

Really? Nobody? Seems to me at least one person buys into lies...

You're entitled to your OPINION, but it would be in the best interest of us all if you wouldn't say that my opinions are lies.

[Regnum Dominae]

Really? Nobody? Seems to me at least one person buys into lies...

You're entitled to your OPINION, but it would be in the best interest of us all if you wouldn't say that my opinions are lies.

You're entitled to your own opinions, but not your own facts.

[People Who Say Ni]

Evolution is not a law. Many people believe that when a theory is proven it becomes a law. This just shows utter scientific ignorance. If anything, a theory is even more impressive than a law.

[Sun Wukong]

Really? Nobody? Seems to me at least one person buys into lies...

You're entitled to your OPINION, but it would be in the best interest of us all if you wouldn't say that my opinions are lies.

Your opinions are lies. They are factually incorrect both in their accounting of what evolution is, and in terms of what has happened. You, perhaps, are not a liar, but whoever told you this was.

[Dyakovo]

Really? Nobody? Seems to me at least one person buys into lies...

You're entitled to your OPINION, but it would be in the best interest of us all if you wouldn't say that my opinions are lies.

How would it be in anyone's best interest to ignore the ignorant, counter-factual bullshit you're spewing all over the place?

[Libertariamerica]

You're entitled to your OPINION, but it would be in the best interest of us all if you wouldn't say that my opinions are lies.

How would it be in anyone's best interest to ignore the ignorant, counter-factual bullshit you're spewing all over the place?

Let me answer your stupid question with another stupid question, how would you feel if I silenced your opinion, my way is the highway, and you have no say whatsoever? You wouldn't like that very much, that's how I feel now in case you don't have a clue. And please, watch your language if you want to have an intelligent discussion.

[Regnum Dominae]

How would it be in anyone's best interest to ignore the ignorant, counter-factual bullshit you're spewing all over the place?

Let me answer your stupid question with another stupid question, how would you feel if I silenced your opinion, my way is the highway, and you have no say whatsoever? You wouldn't like that very much, that's how I feel now in case you don't have a clue. And please, watch your language if you want to have an intelligent discussion.

If "silencing your opinion" means not teaching myths instead of facts in science class, then I'm totally fine with "silencing your opinion".

[People Who Say Ni]

How would it be in anyone's best interest to ignore the ignorant, counter-factual bullshit you're spewing all over the place?

Let me answer your stupid question with another stupid question, how would you feel if I silenced your opinion, my way is the highway, and you have no say whatsoever? You wouldn't like that very much, that's how I feel now in case you don't have a clue. And please, watch your language if you want to have an intelligent discussion.

This debate has been going on for a while, so I would just like to pop in and quickly ask what your position on evolution is. I mean, do you believe that human beings have evolved gradually over millions of years from more primitive species?

[Esternial]

How would it be in anyone's best interest to ignore the ignorant, counter-factual bullshit you're spewing all over the place?

Let me answer your stupid question with another stupid question, how would you feel if I silenced your opinion, my way is the highway, and you have no say whatsoever? You wouldn't like that very much, that's how I feel now in case you don't have a clue. And please, watch your language if you want to have an intelligent discussion.

So if I'm telling people God and/or Jesus live(s) in North Korea through some pretty words and teach this to my children, you're okey with that.

I mean...you've never been there so how would you know?

[Dyakovo]

How would it be in anyone's best interest to ignore the ignorant, counter-factual bullshit you're spewing all over the place?

Let me answer your stupid question with another stupid question, how would you feel if I silenced your opinion, my way is the highway, and you have no say whatsoever? You wouldn't like that very much, that's how I feel now in case you don't have a clue. And please, watch your language if you want to have an intelligent discussion.

I'm not silencing your opinion. I'm telling you that it is complete bullshit.

[Sun Wukong]

How would it be in anyone's best interest to ignore the ignorant, counter-factual bullshit you're spewing all over the place?

Let me answer your stupid question with another stupid question, how would you feel if I silenced your opinion, my way is the highway, and you have no say whatsoever? You wouldn't like that very much, that's how I feel now in case you don't have a clue. And please, watch your language if you want to have an intelligent discussion.

You are right. That was a stupid question. No one is silencing your opinion. You are free to continue posting your misguided nonsense no matter how many times we correct you.

[Esternial]

Let me answer your stupid question with another stupid question, how would you feel if I silenced your opinion, my way is the highway, and you have no say whatsoever? You wouldn't like that very much, that's how I feel now in case you don't have a clue. And please, watch your language if you want to have an intelligent discussion.

You are right. That was a stupid question. No one is silencing your opinion. You are free to continue posting your misguided nonsense no matter how many times we correct you.

I agree. There are better uses for my chloroform.

[Sun Wukong]

You are right. That was a stupid question. No one is silencing your opinion. You are free to continue posting your misguided nonsense no matter how many times we correct you.

I agree. There are better uses for my chloroform.

Looking for love again, Esternial?