France's 'Millionaire Tax'

by **Farnhamia** » Mon Dec 30, 2013 4:43 pm

New acardia wrote:
The yoshin empire wrote:He works for the goverment , by your logic hes living off handouts and goverment cheese , and is a parasite for living of taxdollars

He or She is putting there life in danger for the good of the country. Which is to be respected.

He should do it for free. You don't know if he's putting his life in danger. He could be sitting in an office in London or some other place that uses "pounds" for money. Why should any tax dollars pay for his cushy job?

by **The High Guardians** » Mon Dec 30, 2013 4:44 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
The High Guardians wrote:
Depends on which nation you hail from! I won't be spending dollars on my cheese! I'll be spending my precious pound coins.

Great, converting my foreign aid dollars into effete "pounds." Worse.

It's fine, I'll have my cheese in a foot long and the money will circulate back to the best nation on earth. Murica

by **The yoshin empire** » Mon Dec 30, 2013 4:44 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
New acardia wrote:He or She is putting there life in danger for the good of the country. Which is to be respected.

He should do it for free. Why should my tax dollars pay for his cushy job?

No why shouldnt you hire mercenaries to do it .

by **The High Guardians** » Mon Dec 30, 2013 4:45 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
New acardia wrote:He or She is putting there life in danger for the good of the country. Which is to be respected.

He should do it for free. You don't know if he's putting his life in danger. He could be sitting in an office in London or some other place that uses "pounds" for money. Why should any tax dollars pay for his cushy job?

Actually stationed in London *Looks over shoulder* But I'm a foot soldier by trade.

by **Farnhamia** » Mon Dec 30, 2013 4:45 pm

The High Guardians wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Great, converting my foreign aid dollars into effete "pounds." Worse.

It's fine, I'll have my cheese in a foot long and the money will circulate back to the best nation on earth. Murica

Better. (Except for "Murica." That I actually fine annoying and kind of offensive.)

by **Farnhamia** » Mon Dec 30, 2013 4:46 pm

The High Guardians wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:He should do it for free. You don't know if he's putting his life in danger. He could be sitting in an office in London or some other place that uses "pounds" for money. Why should any tax dollars pay for his cushy job?

Actually stationed in London *Looks over shoulder* But I'm a foot soldier by trade.

Great, you're into feet. :roll:

But we digress. The topic is not people on welfare, it's the French tax law. Please reread the OP and let's stay on topic.

by **The High Guardians** » Mon Dec 30, 2013 4:47 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
The High Guardians wrote:
It's fine, I'll have my cheese in a foot long and the money will circulate back to the best nation on earth. Murica

Better. (Except for "Murica." That I actually fine annoying and kind of offensive.)

It was payback for...1812?

Feet have cheese. So yes.

Last post on cheese: Back on topic.

by **New Acardia** » Mon Dec 30, 2013 4:54 pm

Farnhamia wrote:
The High Guardians wrote:
Actually stationed in London *Looks over shoulder* But I'm a foot soldier by trade.

Great, you're into feet.

But we digress. The topic is not people on welfare, it's the French tax law. Please reread the OP and let's stay on topic.

You are right I am sorry for getting off topic.

by **New Acardia** » Mon Dec 30, 2013 4:55 pm

Sorry for the dibbled post I am on a cellphone.

by **New Acardia** » Mon Dec 30, 2013 4:56 pm

Sorry again I am having a bad day.

by **New Acardia** » Mon Dec 30, 2013 4:56 pm

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by **New Acardia** » Mon Dec 30, 2013 4:56 pm

The High Guardians wrote:
New acardia wrote:I have been around people on welfare. Most of my life and most of them are parasites. And I got the quote from Ayn Rand. And why should everyone have toys if they did not work for them.?

I was on welfare...then I joined the Military.I assume I went from your nightmare/parasite to your hero!

You did something good and I respect you for getting off of welfare.

by **New Acardia** » Mon Dec 30, 2013 4:56 pm

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by **New Acardia** » Mon Dec 30, 2013 4:57 pm

The High Guardians wrote:
Ainin wrote:They wouldn't have 1mn euros, because there are other tax brackets as well...?

They wouldn't be broke either? If its not less than 100 K I'm not bothered. Sitting on piles of money doesn't help the economy at all.

How long until the first million is targeted for this outrageous tax. In the words of Gerard Depardieu this is the government punishing success..

by **The yoshin empire** » Mon Dec 30, 2013 4:57 pm

New acardia wrote:
Farnhamia wrote:Right, because your personal experience has brought you into contact with "most people on welfare." Be careful, "all X are Y" is an actionable offense here.

I am just speaking from my personal experience. And I said most not all. But most

Unless you know them all, you cant say most are like that.

by **A Stopped Clock** » Mon Dec 30, 2013 5:00 pm

Well firstly, it's not a 75% income tax. It's a 50% income tax on each Euro earned above €1 million. Then a social contribution which everyone in France pays on their income: this would be a flat tax, except that the rates are higher for earnings from investment than for wages/salaries.

How is a 75% tax bracket compliant with the Constitutional Court's ruling that 66% is the limit?

Well, the trick is in making the employer pay the 50%. Then the social contributions are levied on the individual income. This comes to around 66%

by **Ainin** » Mon Dec 30, 2013 5:00 pm

New acardia wrote:
The High Guardians wrote:
They wouldn't be broke either? If its not less than 100 K I'm not bothered. Sitting on piles of money doesn't help the economy at all.

How long until the first million is targeted for this outrageous tax. In the words of Gerard Depardieu this is the government punishing success..

Ainin wrote:
New acardia wrote:How long until the first million is targeted for this outrageous tax. In the words of Gerard Depardieu this is the government punishing success..

This tax doesn't target any personal income whatsoever.

Also, that's a lovely slippery slope.

by **Saracenia** » Mon Dec 30, 2013 5:03 pm

State's robbery etc

by **Othelos** » Mon Dec 30, 2013 5:11 pm

Saracenia wrote:State's robbery etc

Taxation isn't theft.

by **Ainin** » Mon Dec 30, 2013 5:15 pm

Saracenia wrote:State's robbery etc

The French Penal Code defines robbery as the fraudulent removal of property not belonging to oneself by threat of force within an organised group.

Taxes aren't fraud.

Your move.

by **Occupied Deutschland** » Mon Dec 30, 2013 5:16 pm

Othelos wrote:
Saracenia wrote:State's robbery etc

Taxation isn't theft.

That classification has always rubbed me the wrong way.
It's more extortion. After all, the group paid by taxes does do things for the payer. *nod*

by **Othelos** » Mon Dec 30, 2013 5:19 pm

Occupied Deutschland wrote:
Othelos wrote:Taxation isn't theft.

That classification has always rubbed me the wrong way.
It's more extortion. After all, the group paid by taxes does do things for the payer. *nod*

Extortion is still the wrong word. Taxes are more like rent.

by **Saracenia** » Mon Dec 30, 2013 5:21 pm

Othelos wrote:
Occupied Deutschland wrote:That classification has always rubbed me the wrong way.
It's more extortion. After all, the group paid by taxes does do things for the payer. *nod*

Extortion is still the wrong word. Taxes are more like rent.

Rent, certainly. Where you couldn't exit the state's service and forced to pay for it.

by **Souseiseki** » Mon Dec 30, 2013 5:22 pm

Saracenia wrote:
Othelos wrote:Extortion is still the wrong word. Taxes are more like rent.

Rent, certainly. Where you couldn't exit the state's service and forced to pay for it.

much like you are free to leave your landlords property, you are free to leave the state.

by **Occupied Deutschland** » Mon Dec 30, 2013 5:22 pm

Othelos wrote:
Occupied Deutschland wrote:That classification has always rubbed me the wrong way.
It's more extortion. After all, the group paid by taxes does do things for the payer. *nod*

Extortion is still the wrong word. Taxes are more like rent.

Not really. But that is a threadjack for another time.

Assuming taxes are rent, there are renters rights which preclude overburdensome payments. France's rent is too damn high.

France's 'Millionaire Tax'

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