Cuban Embargo

by **Buevallon** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:15 pm

Due to the recent actions of Obama shaking the hand of Raul Castro, I was wondering what everyone thought about the necessity of the Cuban Embargo. Does it do more harm than good? should we still wait for a regime change? or should we end the embargo right now? What do y'all think?

by **The Scientific States** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:26 pm

Buevallon wrote:Due to the recent actions of Obama shaking the hand of Raul Castro, I was wondering what everyone thought about the necessity of the Cuban Embargo. Does it do more harm than good? should we still wait for a regime change? or should we end the embargo right now? What do y'all think?

The embargo is a stupid product of McCarthyism.

by **Regnum Dominae** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:50 pm

We should end the embargo but still use soft power and diplomacy to put pressure on Cuba to liberalize and democratize.

by **Thafoo** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:53 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:We should end the embargo but still use diplomacy to put pressure on Cuba to liberalize and democratize.

I second this.

But don't make them touch their shiny healthcare system.

by **The Scientific States** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:56 pm

Thafoo wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:We should end the embargo but still use diplomacy to put pressure on Cuba to liberalize and democratize.

I second this.

But don't make them touch their shiny healthcare system.

I agree with Regnum as well, however there healthcare system is far from "shiny."

http://iwpr.net/report-news/cracks-show ... are-system

by **Thafoo** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:57 pm

The Scientific States wrote:
Thafoo wrote:I second this.

But don't make them touch their shiny healthcare system.

I agree with Regnum as well, however there healthcare system is far from "shiny."

http://iwpr.net/report-news/cracks-show ... are-system

Well shit, I guess you'll tell me next that Obama's security guards are really aliens and that one tinfoil hat guy is correct.

But I believe you. :|

by **Hallistar** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:59 pm

Thafoo wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:
I agree with Regnum as well, however there healthcare system is far from "shiny."

http://iwpr.net/report-news/cracks-show ... are-system

Well shit, I guess you'll tell me next that Obama's security guards are really aliens and that one tinfoil hat guy is correct.

But I believe you. :|

I remember finding this one day: http://www.therealcuba.com/Page10.htm

by **The Scientific States** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 10:04 pm

Thafoo wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:
I agree with Regnum as well, however there healthcare system is far from "shiny."

http://iwpr.net/report-news/cracks-show ... are-system

Well shit, I guess you'll tell me next that Obama's security guards are really aliens and that one tinfoil hat guy is correct.

But I believe you. :|

They're not aliens, they're lizard people. Get it right.

by **Thafoo** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 10:06 pm

The Scientific States wrote:
Thafoo wrote:Well shit, I guess you'll tell me next that Obama's security guards are really aliens and that one tinfoil hat guy is correct.

But I believe you. :|

They're not aliens, they're lizard people. Get it right.

Your mom's a lizard person.

by **Baader-Meinhof Gruppe** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 10:07 pm

It should have ended with Clinton's presidency. There isn't a real reason to keep it in place, it's simply a waste of tax dollars

by **The Scientific States** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 10:08 pm

Thafoo wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:
They're not aliens, they're lizard people. Get it right.

Your mom's a lizard person.

*runs away crying.*

by **YellowApple** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 10:12 pm

The embargo is as outdated as the anti-communist fetish that created it.

Kinda silly that the only way to go on a vacation to Cuba is to become a terrorist and get arrested as such; and by doing so, I'm stuck with a single resort with absolutely dismal reviews.

by **Estado Paulista** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 10:21 pm

If Cuba pays the US (for the nationalizations e.g. theft) and allow American companies to operate in the island, I'll have no problem with ending the embargo.

by **4years** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 10:22 pm

Estado Paulista wrote:If Cuba pays the US (for the nationalizations e.g. theft) and allow American companies to operate in the island, I'll have no problem with ending the embargo.

Those nationalizations weep rent theft, they were fair compensation for the actions of said companies during the Batista regime.

by **4years** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 10:24 pm

The Scientific States wrote:
Thafoo wrote:I second this.

But don't make them touch their shiny healthcare system.

I agree with Regnum as well, however there healthcare system is far from "shiny."

http://iwpr.net/report-news/cracks-show ... are-system

The trouble with Cuban healthcare largely stems from a) insufficient resources and b) being overly generous with foreign medical aid while having insufficient resources.

by **The Scientific States** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 10:25 pm

4years wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:
I agree with Regnum as well, however there healthcare system is far from "shiny."

http://iwpr.net/report-news/cracks-show ... are-system

The trouble with Cuban healthcare largely stems from a) insufficient resources and b) being overly generous with foreign medical aid while having insufficient resources.

Essentially. I'm just showing Thafoo that their healthcare system is far from shiny.

by **Thafoo** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 10:26 pm

4years wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:
I agree with Regnum as well, however there healthcare system is far from "shiny."

http://iwpr.net/report-news/cracks-show ... are-system

The trouble with Cuban healthcare largely stems from a) insufficient resources and b) being overly generous with foreign medical aid while having insufficient resources.

Indeed, indeed, indeed. Indeed is the new comrade word, m'kay?

by **4years** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 10:27 pm

The Scientific States wrote:
4years wrote:
The trouble with Cuban healthcare largely stems from a) insufficient resources and b) being overly generous with foreign medical aid while having insufficient resources.

Essentially. I'm just showing Thafoo that their healthcare system is far from shiny.

But the problems with it are problems what can be fixed via the TMAI method, not structural problems.

by **4years** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 10:27 pm

Thafoo wrote:
4years wrote:
The trouble with Cuban healthcare largely stems from a) insufficient resources and b) being overly generous with foreign medical aid while having insufficient resources.

Indeed, indeed, indeed. Indeed is the new comrade word, m'kay?

Indeed.

by **Estado Paulista** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 10:28 pm

4years wrote: b) being overly generous with foreign medical aid while having insufficient resources.

Actually, we pay the Cuban government for their doctors. In most of the time, there is no "aid", the Cuban government just sells their doctors and they get paid.

by **Souriya Al-Assad** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 10:29 pm

Its a stupid Capitalist-Imperialist embargo that should not even be there to commence with. That amongst other sabotage attempts against Communist Résistance countries such as Cuba.

by **The Scientific States** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 10:29 pm

4years wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:
Essentially. I'm just showing Thafoo that their healthcare system is far from shiny.

But the problems with it are problems what can be fixed via the TMAI method, not structural problems.

I feel stupid, what is the TMAI method?

by **4years** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 10:30 pm

The Scientific States wrote:
4years wrote:
But the problems with it are problems what can be fixed via the TMAI method, not structural problems.

I feel stupid, what is the TMAI method?

The Throw Money At It method.

by **The Scientific States** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 10:30 pm

4years wrote:
The Scientific States wrote:
I feel stupid, what is the TMAI method?

The Throw Money At It method.

Oh, I feel stupid.

I sort of agree. Cuba should spend more money to have better healthcare facilities, and they must pay their doctors much more.

by **4years** » Sat Dec 28, 2013 10:32 pm

Estado Paulista wrote:
4years wrote: b) being overly generous with foreign medical aid while having insufficient resources.

Actually, we pay the Cuban government for their doctors. In most of the time, there is no "aid", the Cuban government just sells their doctors and they get paid.

Alright "b) being overly willing to send doctors places in exchange for money and cheap oil while having insufficient resources". Happy?

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