Monarchist Discussion Thread

[Dangelia]

I personally feel like a ceremonial monarchy is unnecessary and pretty much every other form is undesirable on grounds of its anti-democratic nature and inherent elitism. Having a figure rule over the populace on the basis of his/her family of birth is to me not far from a dictatorship. I prefer that people have the ability to rule over themselves.

Monarchy doesn't necessarily contradict democracy. Especially in a constitutional monarchy.

[United British Union]

As a person born and raised by a patriotic family and governess, I must say that I am a keen follower of the Monarchy.
I believe in a Constitutional Monarchy, but one where the Royal Family does have more power over the nation than the government itself has.

Although I do agree that this could have some bad points if their was a bad monarch.

[Vazdania]

As a person born and raised by a patriotic family and governess, I must say that I am a keen follower of the Monarchy.
I believe in a Constitutional Monarchy, but one where the Royal Family does have more power over the nation than the government itself has.

Although I do agree that this could have some bad points if their was a bad monarch.

Which is why there is a necessary legislative branch to restrain such a beast.

[GrandKirche]

I like a constitutional monarchy most of the time. When we have Labour governments I'm pro-absolute Monarchy. For reasons of not wanting to be poor as sin.

[Old Tyrannia]

As a person born and raised by a patriotic family and governess, I must say that I am a keen follower of the Monarchy.
I believe in a Constitutional Monarchy, but one where the Royal Family does have more power over the nation than the government itself has.

Although I do agree that this could have some bad points if their was a bad monarch.

Which is where the division of powers between institutions comes in. An elected parliament can pass a law appointing a regent or forcing a monarch to abdicate if the monarch is unable, or unwilling, to responsibly fulfil his or her obligations.

[Libertechie]

I am a republican rather than a monarchist, and I see monarchism as elitist and undemocratic. Can I ask, what draws you guys to monarchism? Is it national pride and heritage and culture?

In an executive constitutional monarchy it's almost like a good blend between monarchism and republicanism.

Is monarchism cost-worthy?

[Blasveck]

If I may ask, what exactly are the distinctions between monarchy and a dictatorship?

I mean, the ideological foundations and justifications are different, but functionally, they are the same.

An unaccountable leader, supposedly kept in check from corruption by the threat of revolution.

Am I missing something?

[Jimanistan]

Definition: A monarchy is a form of government in which sovereignty is actually or nominally embodied in a single individual (the monarch).

While in the past the Monarch has been granted extraordinary power and wealth compared to today's leaders, Monarchy does not inherently force stratified hierarchy upon its governance

But we agree that this places one person (either ceremonially or de facto) in command of the state, right? How is that not inherently stratified, at least symbolically?

[Old Tyrannia]

Although I do agree that this could have some bad points if their was a bad monarch.

Which is why there is a necessary legislative branch to restrain such a beast.

Ninja'd. It's true what they say; great minds think alike.

[United British Union]

If I may ask, what exactly are the distinctions between monarchy and a dictatorship?

I mean, the ideological foundations and justifications are different, but functionally, they are the same.

An unaccountable leader, supposedly kept in check from corruption by the threat of revolution.

Am I missing something?

It is a matter of theory- Dictators are elected and then keep power via force. The Monarchy is crowned.

[Jimanistan]

If I may ask, what exactly are the distinctions between monarchy and a dictatorship?

Shiny hats.

[Dangelia]

In an executive constitutional monarchy it's almost like a good blend between monarchism and republicanism.

Is monarchism cost-worthy?

What do you mean?

[The Kingdom Historia]

In an executive constitutional monarchy it's almost like a good blend between monarchism and republicanism.

Is monarchism cost-worthy?

In some cases of like paying your rent to your land lord but every one has different types of landlords

[Vazdania]

If I may ask, what exactly are the distinctions between monarchy and a dictatorship?

I mean, the ideological foundations and justifications are different, but functionally, they are the same.

An unaccountable leader, supposedly kept in check from corruption by the threat of revolution.

Am I missing something?

While there is quite frankly no distinction between absolute monarchy and dictatorship, there are plenty of distinctions between constitutional and Constitutional Executive Monarchies.....That is The monarch is limited in power.

Not at all.

The leader is highly accountable in Constitutional and Constitutional Executive Monarchy.

[Dangelia]

Which is why there is a necessary legislative branch to restrain such a beast.

Ninja'd. It's true what they say; great minds think alike.

Hear hear!

[Vazdania]

Which is why there is a necessary legislative branch to restrain such a beast.

Ninja'd. It's true what they say; great minds think alike.

[Vazdania]

Definition: A monarchy is a form of government in which sovereignty is actually or nominally embodied in a single individual (the monarch).

While in the past the Monarch has been granted extraordinary power and wealth compared to today's leaders, Monarchy does not inherently force stratified hierarchy upon its governance

But we agree that this places one person (either ceremonially or de facto) in command of the state, right? How is that not inherently stratified, at least symbolically?

In command? No. They simply act as the executive branch.

[Frihetskommunen]

I personally feel like a ceremonial monarchy is unnecessary and pretty much every other form is undesirable on grounds of its anti-democratic nature and inherent elitism. Having a figure rule over the populace on the basis of his/her family of birth is to me not far from a dictatorship. I prefer that people have the ability to rule over themselves.

There is no inherent elitism in monarchy.

Having people become at least celebrities and at most rulers of the land on basis of their family of birth, as well as saying that a person is more capable of ruling over people than the people are of ruling over themselves because of said persons bloodline rings heavily of elitism to me.

[The New Lowlands]

Bring back the Batavian Republic. Also, guillotines.

But seriously, why support a monarchy?

[Blasveck]

If I may ask, what exactly are the distinctions between monarchy and a dictatorship?

I mean, the ideological foundations and justifications are different, but functionally, they are the same.

An unaccountable leader, supposedly kept in check from corruption by the threat of revolution.

Am I missing something?

While there is quite frankly no distinction between absolute monarchy and dictatorship, there are plenty of distinctions between constitutional and Constitutional Executive Monarchies.....That is The monarch is limited in power.

Not at all.

The leader is highly accountable in Constitutional and Constitutional Executive Monarchy.

The very idea that an unelected leader is accountable seems, to me, a preposterous idea.

Granted, an elected leader I still find somewhat unaccountable.
But less so than a King.

[Vazdania]

Bring back the Batavian Republic. Also, guillotines.

But seriously, why support a monarchy?

Because it is the only righteous form of governing a people.

[The New Lowlands]

Bring back the Batavian Republic. Also, guillotines.

But seriously, why support a monarchy?

Because it is the only righteous form of governing a people.

How is it righteous?

[United British Union]

Bring back the Batavian Republic. Also, guillotines.

But seriously, why support a monarchy?

Because it is the only righteous form of governing a people.

And due to tradition.

[Blasveck]

Bring back the Batavian Republic. Also, guillotines.

But seriously, why support a monarchy?

Because it is the only righteous form of governing a people.

And not democracy?

[Dangelia]

There is no inherent elitism in monarchy.

Having people become at least celebrities and at most rulers of the land on basis of their family of birth, as well as saying that a person is more capable of ruling over people than the people are of ruling over themselves because of said persons bloodline rings heavily of elitism to me.

Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance - H.L. Mencken