Why do you think the Lower-Classes Act More Informal?

[Arglorand]

Ne, eik tu šikt. Jūsų žemės bus Mažoji Lietuva v2.0, o jūsų kalba absorbuota į mūsiškę. Rytų Europa, mūsų laikas artėja.

Now we've got the Poles coming in.

I see what you did there.

[Ashmoria]

It is clear they are either too laid-back or too relaxed to keep up appearances, when the Aristocracy and other Upper-Class peoples strive to make a good impression of both themselves and the British Nation.

I assume that in Britain formality is all the upper class HAS. what else could possibly separate them from the masses?

[Unitaristic Regions]

Rituals. That's the perfect word for it.

Surplus free time allowed for cultural evolution? Hmmm....

[Vazdania]

If they are on welfare they probably do not pay very much in taxes at all.

Are you doing this on purpose?

Did you miss the part where he said they survive on welfare and can barely pay their taxes?

How when there are no jobs available, and they have no money because they are surviving on donations from friends and family? Do explain how they are supposed to make their own job.

Oh gosh I'm so sorry, My Luv!

Well obviously if you are surviving off of welfare you should cut back on expenses in order to get ahead.
When there are no jobs available that is when you CREATE your own jobs. You make your own jobs by actually doing stuff. There are many different ways you can make your own job.

[Crumlark]

Are you trying to imply that formality is EXCLUSIVE to the upper class?

I do wonder how you got that out of my post.

Read the thread topic question:

"Why do you think the Lower-Classes Act More Informal?"

It is a question, is all. Yes or no would suffice.
I derived that train of thinking by you explaining that the lower classes act more informal because they are not the upper class. Yes, that is a slanted question with the obvious assumption that the lower class are entirely devoid of formality, but your answer seems to reinforce its assumption, though.

Except it is. It's obvious you have no experience with acquiring experience to the job market with methods that bear little weight on age, ability to pay taxes, or have an actual job.

It's also obvious you're not funny.

T'is a good thing that humor was not my intent, then.

Except it is. It's obvious you have no experience with acquiring experience to the job market with methods that bear little weight on age, ability to pay taxes, or have an actual job.

What do you define as an "actual job"?

Employment, federal recognition of income through selling of labor or products. To acquire such a job, age would matter. To acquire a job of another caliber (unofficially working with the family business, for example), age holds less as a requirement.

[Shinpitekina]

It is clear they are either too laid-back or too relaxed to keep up appearances, when the Aristocracy and other Upper-Class peoples strive to make a good impression of both themselves and the British Nation.

Being oneself is considered to be simpler than pretending to be something one isn't, sure. But think of it this way: as poor people try to work hard and do so, they have little to no time to pretend to be something. It consumes energy that can be used for working instead.

[Luveria]

Ne, eik tu šikt. Jūsų žemės bus Mažoji Lietuva v2.0, o jūsų kalba absorbuota į mūsiškę. Rytų Europa, mūsų laikas artėja.

Now we've got the Poles coming in.

I've been here since page 1.

Are you doing this on purpose?

Oh gosh I'm so sorry, My Luv!

Well obviously if you are surviving off of welfare you should cut back on expenses in order to get ahead.
When there are no jobs available that is when you CREATE your own jobs. You make your own jobs by actually doing stuff. There are many different ways you can make your own job.

Did you miss the part about how they can't afford food after cutting expenses and only have enough to eat because friends and family give donations?

[Vazdania]

Lower classes do not worry about keeping up appearances.

And neither should anyone else in my opinion. Just be yourselves, everyone.

You think the media will let people just be themselves? Yea, not going to happen.

[Old Tyrannia]

Lower classes do not worry about keeping up appearances.

And neither should anyone else in my opinion. Just be yourselves, everyone.

That's a terrible idea. Correct behaviour and etiquette is the foundation of society.

It is clear they are either too laid-back or too relaxed to keep up appearances, when the Aristocracy and other Upper-Class peoples strive to make a good impression of both themselves and the British Nation.

I assume that in Britain formality is all the upper class HAS. what else could possibly separate them from the masses?

Well, vast wealth and, in the case of the aristocracy, titles and illustrious family histories.

[Arglorand]

Are you doing this on purpose?

Oh gosh I'm so sorry, My Luv!

Well obviously if you are surviving off of welfare you should cut back on expenses in order to get ahead.
When there are no jobs available that is when you CREATE your own jobs. You make your own jobs by actually doing stuff. There are many different ways you can make your own job.

They already have cut back on expenses. They can barely EAT. And with malnutrition comes weakness and frailty. And with those, come the fucking realization that laissez faire is shit, and that you haven't yet said a single way they can actually make a job.

Come on, Vazdania. My friend's family are depending on this. Think of something that can earn them cash.

[United British Union]

It is clear they are either too laid-back or too relaxed to keep up appearances, when the Aristocracy and other Upper-Class peoples strive to make a good impression of both themselves and the British Nation.

I assume that in Britain formality is all the upper class HAS. what else could possibly separate them from the masses?

We have much more than formality, sir, that separates us from the masses: more wealth then they have, titles and estates. This does not make us better than them, of course. It is simply their manner.

[Luveria]

I do wonder how you got that out of my post.

Read the thread topic question:

"Why do you think the Lower-Classes Act More Informal?"

It is a question, is all. Yes or no would suffice.
I derived that train of thinking by you explaining that the lower classes act more informal because they are not the upper class. Yes, that is a slanted question with the obvious assumption that the lower class are entirely devoid of formality, but your answer seems to reinforce its assumption, though.

No, it does not, and it was not a slanted question. You are making it into what you want it to be.

[Shinpitekina]

And neither should anyone else in my opinion. Just be yourselves, everyone.

Why it's a good show?!

Acting is a separate industry that should have nothing to do with manual labor.[/pseudo-seriousness]

[Vazdania]

Now we've got the Poles coming in.

I've been here since page 1.

Oh gosh I'm so sorry, My Luv!

Well obviously if you are surviving off of welfare you should cut back on expenses in order to get ahead.
When there are no jobs available that is when you CREATE your own jobs. You make your own jobs by actually doing stuff. There are many different ways you can make your own job.

Did you miss the part about how they can't afford food after cutting expenses and only have enough to eat because friends and family give donations?

/....we need a change in the welfare and unemployment system....

[Luveria]

I've been here since page 1.



Did you miss the part about how they can't afford food after cutting expenses and only have enough to eat because friends and family give donations?

/....we need a change in the welfare and unemployment system....

Aren't you always advocating abolishing welfare entirely to motivate the unemployed to get jobs even if there is a market shortage of jobs?

[Estado Paulista]

Did you miss the part about how they can't afford food after cutting expenses and only have enough to eat because friends and family give donations?

His reading comprehension is pretty bad for a member of the British elite.

[Arglorand]

I've been here since page 1.



Did you miss the part about how they can't afford food after cutting expenses and only have enough to eat because friends and family give donations?

/....we need a change in the welfare and unemployment system....

that sentence sounds like the origins of a communist tbh

[Seriong]

If I may dredge up something from earlier:

Anyways, the extra forks cost money that the lower classes don't have.

Surely they can afford them, though!

You remind me of the queen saying "Let them eat cake!" you just don't seem to have an understanding of what it means to be poor.

[Arglorand]

Did you miss the part about how they can't afford food after cutting expenses and only have enough to eat because friends and family give donations?

He's reading comprehension is pretty bad for a member of the British elite.

He's American.

[Unitaristic Regions]

Did you miss the part about how they can't afford food after cutting expenses and only have enough to eat because friends and family give donations?

He's reading comprehension is pretty bad for a member of the British elite.

again.

[Glasgia]

Because we're 'ard bruv, you cannae 'stand our talk when you're a wee bastard with a ton o' cash (I'd describe myself as lower middle-class, but you sound like the kinda posh bastard who turns his nose at "those wretched lower classes" when you just mean anybody poorer than you. Yes, that kind of person does exist. I'm only partially stereotyping.)

Seriously, it's because there's not much time to practice "formality" when you're struggling to keep it above the poverty line. Sure, no one's going to drop dead if they speak poshly, but there's no point - No one needs to please diplomats and it's a hell of a lot easier to act normally.

What if their hard work gets them nowhere? Where is the incentive to work harder if it gets poor people nowhere?

How would working hard not get you anywhere?

Because you went to a shit school, where it looked far more profitable to join a gang then learn. So you worked bloody hard to keep your family going by doing your daily drug run, while those richer than you could afford to study. Rather than building up nine thousand in debt for university, you went to work down the local pit. You worked hard day in day out, but you had no education, no connections and that meant you had no way upwards.

When the pit closes, you have no job, no education, no experience elsewhere. You've worked hard to bring in income all your life, but now you're confined to a council house with no jobs available and just £6 a week unemployment benefit.

[Ile Tobi]

Did you miss the part about how they can't afford food after cutting expenses and only have enough to eat because friends and family give donations?

He's reading comprehension is pretty bad for a member of the British elite.

*His*reading comprehension is pretty bad for a member of the British elite.
Oh the irony.

[Vazdania]

Oh gosh I'm so sorry, My Luv!

Well obviously if you are surviving off of welfare you should cut back on expenses in order to get ahead.
When there are no jobs available that is when you CREATE your own jobs. You make your own jobs by actually doing stuff. There are many different ways you can make your own job.

They already have cut back on expenses. They can barely EAT. And with malnutrition comes weakness and frailty. And with those, come the fucking realization that laissez faire is shit, and that you haven't yet said a single way they can actually make a job.

Come on, Vazdania. My friend's family are depending on this. Think of something that can earn them cash.

Laissez faire IS shit. Just for your information. Corportism works best when it has proper regulation.

Grow your own food? Make your own company? Go to a damn Church or religious organization where people will help them? There are many things to help people.

[Shinpitekina]

And neither should anyone else in my opinion. Just be yourselves, everyone.

You think the media will let people just be themselves? Yea, not going to happen.

You speak as if the media dictates upon the consumers as United Russia and Putin dictate upon the people inside the boundaries of Russian federation, which is not the case. Media has only power over the sheeple who follow it blindly.

[Arglorand]

Because we're 'ard bruv, you cannae 'stand our talk when you're a wee bastard with a ton o' cash

I saw this coming.