by The TransPecos » Sat Dec 21, 2013 4:35 pm
by Dyakovo » Sat Dec 21, 2013 4:41 pm
The TransPecos wrote:1. Amendment 16 is repealed. (Implement a GST, VAT, or user fee system. The original wording was there for a clear purpose. This would also simplify revenue collection and abolish the need for the IRS.)
2. Amendment 17 is repealed. (The House represents the People; this would return to the concept of the Senate representing the States. Much of the argument for this amendment no longer really holds.)
3. Congress shall pass no bill with more than one subject and the title shall clearly describe the contents of the bill. Any part not described is invalid. (This would stop Congress from passing omnibus bill that no one can possibly read, let alone understand, before voting. Several states do this, e.g. New Mexico, Article IV, Section 16.)
Congress is broken. I think these might fix things. If you don't agree state why and propose an alternative.
by With Teeth » Sat Dec 21, 2013 4:42 pm
by The Unified Citizen Front » Sat Dec 21, 2013 4:46 pm
by The Serbian Empire » Sat Dec 21, 2013 4:53 pm
The Unified Citizen Front wrote:You want to know what would "fix" congress?
1. Stop paying them so God damned much.
2. Do not allow private campaign contributions.
3. Only allow people who have truly proven that they care about those they want to represent, to represent. If an individual does not reflect a proper mixture of his regions views, then why should he govern? Two-party system polarization problem.
by Len Hyet » Sat Dec 21, 2013 5:14 pm
The TransPecos wrote:1. Amendment 16 is repealed. (Implement a GST, VAT, or user fee system. The original wording was there for a clear purpose. This would also simplify revenue collection and abolish the need for the IRS.)
2. Amendment 17 is repealed. (The House represents the People; this would return to the concept of the Senate representing the States. Much of the argument for this amendment no longer really holds.)
3. Congress shall pass no bill with more than one subject and the title shall clearly describe the contents of the bill. Any part not described is invalid. (This would stop Congress from passing omnibus bill that no one can possibly read, let alone understand, before voting. Several states do this, e.g. New Mexico, Article IV, Section 16.)
Congress is broken. I think these might fix things. If you don't agree state why and propose an alternative.
by Cannot think of a name » Sat Dec 21, 2013 8:03 pm
The TransPecos wrote:1. Amendment 16 is repealed. (Implement a GST, VAT, or user fee system. The original wording was there for a clear purpose. This would also simplify revenue collection and abolish the need for the IRS.)
The TransPecos wrote:2. Amendment 17 is repealed. (The House represents the People; this would return to the concept of the Senate representing the States. Much of the argument for this amendment no longer really holds.)
The TransPecos wrote:3. Congress shall pass no bill with more than one subject and the title shall clearly describe the contents of the bill. Any part not described is invalid. (This would stop Congress from passing omnibus bill that no one can possibly read, let alone understand, before voting. Several states do this, e.g. New Mexico, Article IV, Section 16.)
The TransPecos wrote:Congress is broken.
The TransPecos wrote: I think these might fix things.
The TransPecos wrote: If you don't agree state why and propose an alternative.
by Zavea » Sat Dec 21, 2013 8:14 pm
by Estado Paulista » Sat Dec 21, 2013 8:18 pm
by The Orson Empire » Sat Dec 21, 2013 8:20 pm
The Unified Citizen Front wrote:You want to know what would "fix" congress?
1. Stop paying them so God damned much.
2. Do not allow private campaign contributions.
3. Only allow people who have truly proven that they care about those they want to represent, to represent. If an individual does not reflect a proper mixture of his regions views, then why should he govern? Two-party system polarization problem.
by Farnhamia » Sat Dec 21, 2013 8:23 pm
Cyyro wrote:Abolishing the 2 party system would be nice...
by Len Hyet » Sat Dec 21, 2013 8:25 pm
by Cannot think of a name » Sat Dec 21, 2013 8:27 pm
Zavea wrote: i can't fathom what amendment would be so widely supported by present day america's political establishment that passing it would be plausible.
by Cyyro » Sat Dec 21, 2013 8:28 pm
Len Hyet wrote:Farnhamia wrote:How would that amendment work, exactly?
Mandate that campaigns are not allowed to accept donations. To run in a state you need to get 10,000 signatures, and the government will allocate one million dollars to every campaign per state (for example if I get 10,000 in Texas and Arizona, I get 2 million to campaign in those two states. If I get 10,000 in all fifty states, I get 50 million to campaign across the US).
Thus 3rd parties are literally on the same level as Democrats and Republicans.
by Farnhamia » Sat Dec 21, 2013 8:30 pm
Len Hyet wrote:Farnhamia wrote:How would that amendment work, exactly?
Mandate that campaigns are not allowed to accept donations. To run in a state you need to get 10,000 signatures, and the government will allocate one million dollars to every campaign per state (for example if I get 10,000 in Texas and Arizona, I get 2 million to campaign in those two states. If I get 10,000 in all fifty states, I get 50 million to campaign across the US).
Thus 3rd parties are literally on the same level as Democrats and Republicans.
by Cannot think of a name » Sat Dec 21, 2013 8:32 pm
Len Hyet wrote:Farnhamia wrote:How would that amendment work, exactly?
Mandate that campaigns are not allowed to accept donations. To run in a state you need to get 10,000 signatures, and the government will allocate one million dollars to every campaign per state (for example if I get 10,000 in Texas and Arizona, I get 2 million to campaign in those two states. If I get 10,000 in all fifty states, I get 50 million to campaign across the US).
Thus 3rd parties are literally on the same level as Democrats and Republicans.
by Caninope » Sat Dec 21, 2013 8:35 pm
The Unified Citizen Front wrote:You want to know what would "fix" congress?
1. Stop paying them so God damned much.
2. Do not allow private campaign contributions.
3. Only allow people who have truly proven that they care about those they want to represent, to represent. If an individual does not reflect a proper mixture of his regions views, then why should he govern? Two-party system polarization problem.
Agritum wrote:Arg, Caninope is Captain America under disguise. Everyone knows it.
Frisivisia wrote:Me wrote:Just don't. It'll get you a whole lot further in life if you come to realize you're not the smartest guy in the room, even if you probably are.
Because Caninope may be in that room with you.
Nightkill the Emperor wrote:Thankfully, we have you and EM to guide us to wisdom and truth, holy one. :p
Norstal wrote:What I am saying of course is that we should clone Caninope.
by Farnhamia » Sat Dec 21, 2013 8:36 pm
Caninope wrote:The Unified Citizen Front wrote:You want to know what would "fix" congress?
1. Stop paying them so God damned much.
2. Do not allow private campaign contributions.
3. Only allow people who have truly proven that they care about those they want to represent, to represent. If an individual does not reflect a proper mixture of his regions views, then why should he govern? Two-party system polarization problem.
You do realize that would mean that only the richest could serve in Congress, right?
by Ifreann » Sat Dec 21, 2013 8:47 pm
Cyyro wrote:Abolishing the 2 party system would be nice...
by The Klishi Islands » Sat Dec 21, 2013 8:55 pm
"Bullshit is everywhere. There is very little that you will encounter in life that has not been, in some ways, infused with bullshit." ~ Jon Stewart
Minds are like parachutes. They only function when open. ~ Unknown
by Farnhamia » Sat Dec 21, 2013 8:57 pm
The Klishi Islands wrote:Term limits are an obvious solution. Congress has something like a 98% reelection rate. Also, since power corrupts (and it does, please don't deny it), term limits will take away lots of politician's power. I personally propose 12 years for the senate (change individual terms to 4 years) and 8 years for the house (again, 4 years). Also one is not allowed to serve more than twelve years total. Anyone agree?
by Ifreann » Sat Dec 21, 2013 8:59 pm
Caninope wrote:The Unified Citizen Front wrote:You want to know what would "fix" congress?
1. Stop paying them so God damned much.
2. Do not allow private campaign contributions.
3. Only allow people who have truly proven that they care about those they want to represent, to represent. If an individual does not reflect a proper mixture of his regions views, then why should he govern? Two-party system polarization problem.
You do realize that would mean that only the richest could serve in Congress, right?
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