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Postby Kelinfort » Sat Dec 21, 2013 11:54 am

Northern Commonwealth wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:Being gay isn't a "fad" or a choice. I sure as hell didn't choose to be gay.

When did you choose to be straight?


Yeah, exactly, others pushed you on being one. Its a thing of a fashion, just like anything else. It will go in 20 years or so. There are maybe inly 1% of whole population who are actually "mentally ill gay".
P.S.: sorry if you're actually mentally ill, feel bad for you

Read the data, it is not a choice. No choice. It isn't a fashion, it has existed since the human race began.
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Postby DesAnges » Sat Dec 21, 2013 11:54 am

Northern Commonwealth wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:Being gay isn't a "fad" or a choice. I sure as hell didn't choose to be gay.

When did you choose to be straight?


Yeah, exactly, others pushed you on being one. Its a thing of a fashion, just like anything else. It will go in 20 years or so. There are maybe inly 1% of whole population who are actually "mentally ill gay".
P.S.: sorry if you're actually mentally ill, feel bad for you

When did you explicitly and consciously choose to be straight? When did you think to yourself "Yup, I want to bone women, that's the life for me!"?
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Postby Starkiller101 » Sat Dec 21, 2013 11:54 am

Northern Commonwealth wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:Being gay isn't a "fad" or a choice. I sure as hell didn't choose to be gay.

When did you choose to be straight?


Yeah, exactly, others pushed you on being one. Its a thing of a fashion, just like anything else. It will go in 20 years or so. There are maybe inly 1% of whole population who are actually "mentally ill gay".
P.S.: sorry if you're actually mentally ill, feel bad for you
Where on earth did you here that bullcrap and you got a source because i doubt you do.
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Postby Luveria » Sat Dec 21, 2013 11:55 am

Northern Commonwealth wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:Being gay isn't a "fad" or a choice. I sure as hell didn't choose to be gay.

When did you choose to be straight?


Yeah, exactly, others pushed you on being one. Its a thing of a fashion, just like anything else. It will go in 20 years or so. There are maybe inly 1% of whole population who are actually "mentally ill gay".
P.S.: sorry if you're actually mentally ill, feel bad for you


I'm still waiting for that source that homosexuality is a choice. Are you going to provide it?
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Postby New Chalcedon » Sat Dec 21, 2013 11:55 am

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San wrote:look how well conversion therapy has worked so far...

Well I never said I hated them ;)
But gay prides and all that should be banned! You know why? So that children don't see it because its a bad influence! Seriously, if a child constantly sees two people of the same sex being together, they'd assume its a norm!


So - not "normal" = "wrong"? Got it.

I presume you're white, right? Be prepared to flagellate yourself for that - the most common (i.e., "normal") ethnic type is Asiatic. You're morally wrong for not being Asiatic. Just like I'm morally wrong for not being straight. (And before you ask - no, conversation therapy does not work, is a crock of shit and when parents subject their kids to it, it should count as parental abuse.)

Now do you understand?

Northern Commonwealth wrote:Okay last argument. You will not change my opinion towards homosexuality etc. But all I can do is try and slightly change yours...
Imagine a situation. You're a grown man/woman, you're married, you have a son (and maybe some of you already do). He just turned 17 and on day tells you he turned gay because of his "ass-friend" Steve the Gaylord. How would you feel? You child, one you've raised and loved for half of your life, becomes so-called "different". How would you feel about never getting any grandchildren and realizing your son is being f*cke* in his butt*ole by another guy?


Apparently you do not understand, but then again, homophobes so rarely do. Here are the points on which your "argument" fails.

(1) Overuse of emotive language - it's the last refuge of someone who knows that their logic cannot stand scrutiny. As every fascist, "moral majoritarian", fundamentalist and hypocrite knows. I leave it to you to decide which category you belong in.

(2) People don't "become" gay or "choose" to be gay, any more than people "become" straight or "choose" to be straight. They are, or they aren't. And if I were to have a son, and if he were to find out one day that he was gay, I should hope that I would respond with even half of the equilibrium and acceptance that my own parents and grandparents did when I came out to them. (For the record: my grandparents accept it in a "I don't want to talk about it, but I still love you" way, my father just said "That's nice, pass the salt, son.")

(3) Why would I stop loving my child because he's gay? Your phrasing implies that I'll stop loving him on account of that. I don't care whether he goes for the guys, go for the ladies or both - he'd still be my son and I'd still love him. Loving non-traditionally is not a disease, nor is it something to be ashamed of.

Overall, your puerile appeal to emotion and normality is a giant, steaming bucket of shit-scented fail.

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Postby Dragoria » Sat Dec 21, 2013 11:57 am

Northern Commonwealth wrote:Okay last argument. You will not change my opinion towards homosexuality etc. But all I can do is try and slightly change yours...
Imagine a situation. You're a grown man/woman, you're married, you have a son (and maybe some of you already do). He just turned 17 and on day tells you he turned gay because of his "ass-friend" Steve the Gaylord. How would you feel? You child, one you've raised and loved for half of your life, becomes so-called "different". How would you feel about never getting any grandchildren and realizing your son is being f*cke* in his butt*ole by another guy?
People don't "turn" gay.

I'd be glad that my child is in love and happy, and do my best to protect him and my son-in-law from hateful monsters like you.
And if they ever decided to adopt, I'd support them, but I would never, ever try to make him "act straight" just so I could have a grandchild. His happiness would matter more to me than the continuation of my genes.
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Postby Northern Commonwealth » Sat Dec 21, 2013 11:59 am

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Northern Commonwealth wrote:Okay last argument. You will not change my opinion towards homosexuality etc. But all I can do is try and slightly change yours...
Imagine a situation. You're a grown man/woman, you're married, you have a son (and maybe some of you already do). He just turned 17 and on day tells you he turned gay because of his "ass-friend" Steve the Gaylord. How would you feel? You child, one you've raised and loved for half of your life, becomes so-called "different". How would you feel about never getting any grandchildren and realizing your son is being f*cke* in his butt*ole by another guy?

I'd say "Son, I will always love you and care for you, because you are my son and you are amazing. I will always be at your side to help you through anything."

Also, you cannot turn gay...IT IS NOT A CHOICE. Please, please read the scientific data here: http://www.apa.org/helpcenter/sexual-orientation.aspx

That's western science you're referring to.
And if your son TURNING gay won't make you fell bad, well then you'd just make bad parents. I beg you, oh please, please, please don't reproduce
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Postby Dragoria » Sat Dec 21, 2013 12:00 pm

Kelinfort wrote:
Northern Commonwealth wrote:
Yeah, exactly, others pushed you on being one. Its a thing of a fashion, just like anything else. It will go in 20 years or so. There are maybe inly 1% of whole population who are actually "mentally ill gay".
P.S.: sorry if you're actually mentally ill, feel bad for you

Read the data, it is not a choice. No choice. It isn't a fashion, it has existed since the human race began.
Judging by the presence of homosexual behaviors in other species, I'd bet that it's been around longer than we have.
Homosexuality has likely existed for longer than humans have been around to be homophobic about it.
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Postby Lost heros » Sat Dec 21, 2013 12:01 pm

Northern Commonwealth wrote:
Kelinfort wrote:I'd say "Son, I will always love you and care for you, because you are my son and you are amazing. I will always be at your side to help you through anything."

Also, you cannot turn gay...IT IS NOT A CHOICE. Please, please read the scientific data here: http://www.apa.org/helpcenter/sexual-orientation.aspx

That's western science you're referring to.
And if your son TURNING gay won't make you fell bad, well then you'd just make bad parents. I beg you, oh please, please, please don't reproduce

What the hell is western science? And what makes it less credible than any other science possible?
Also where is your source that people can turn gay?
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Postby Arglorand » Sat Dec 21, 2013 12:01 pm

Northern Commonwealth wrote:
Kelinfort wrote:I'd say "Son, I will always love you and care for you, because you are my son and you are amazing. I will always be at your side to help you through anything."

Also, you cannot turn gay...IT IS NOT A CHOICE. Please, please read the scientific data here: http://www.apa.org/helpcenter/sexual-orientation.aspx

That's western science you're referring to.
And if your son TURNING gay won't make you fell bad, well then you'd just make bad parents. I beg you, oh please, please, please don't reproduce

You heard it, folks: in Putin's Russia, there exists a different science from the Western World. Russian Science.

It's right up there with Western Science, Islamic Science, and Juche.
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Postby Kelinfort » Sat Dec 21, 2013 12:01 pm

Northern Commonwealth wrote:
Kelinfort wrote:I'd say "Son, I will always love you and care for you, because you are my son and you are amazing. I will always be at your side to help you through anything."

Also, you cannot turn gay...IT IS NOT A CHOICE. Please, please read the scientific data here: http://www.apa.org/helpcenter/sexual-orientation.aspx

That's western science you're referring to.
And if your son TURNING gay won't make you fell bad, well then you'd just make bad parents. I beg you, oh please, please, please don't reproduce

Yeah, because science is factually proven unlike your claims. Also, you cannot TURN GAY.
If you refuse to believe facts and science, your views are speculation and false.

Come back when you rational evidence. Just to put you to spite, I'll have as many children as I can support.
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Postby Bodobol » Sat Dec 21, 2013 12:01 pm

Northern Commonwealth wrote:
Kelinfort wrote:I'd say "Son, I will always love you and care for you, because you are my son and you are amazing. I will always be at your side to help you through anything."

Also, you cannot turn gay...IT IS NOT A CHOICE. Please, please read the scientific data here: http://www.apa.org/helpcenter/sexual-orientation.aspx

That's western science you're referring to.
And if your son TURNING gay won't make you fell bad, well then you'd just make bad parents. I beg you, oh please, please, please don't reproduce


What's wrong with western science, and why should a gay son make me feel bad?
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Sat Dec 21, 2013 12:01 pm

Northern Commonwealth wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:Being gay isn't a "fad" or a choice. I sure as hell didn't choose to be gay.

When did you choose to be straight?


Yeah, exactly, others pushed you on being one. Its a thing of a fashion, just like anything else. It will go in 20 years or so. There is maybe only 1% of whole population who are actually "mentally ill gay".
P.S.: sorry if you're actually mentally ill, feel bad for you

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Postby San » Sat Dec 21, 2013 12:01 pm

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Northern Commonwealth wrote:That's western science you're referring to.
And if your son TURNING gay won't make you fell bad, well then you'd just make bad parents. I beg you, oh please, please, please don't reproduce

You heard it, folks: in Putin's Russia, there exists a different science from the Western World. Russian Science.

It's right up there with Western Science, Islamic Science, and Juche.

is that the same science that causes everything exciting to happen within view of a dashcam?
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Postby DesAnges » Sat Dec 21, 2013 12:02 pm

Northern Commonwealth wrote:
Kelinfort wrote:I'd say "Son, I will always love you and care for you, because you are my son and you are amazing. I will always be at your side to help you through anything."

Also, you cannot turn gay...IT IS NOT A CHOICE. Please, please read the scientific data here: http://www.apa.org/helpcenter/sexual-orientation.aspx

That's western science you're referring to.
And if your son TURNING gay won't make you fell bad, well then you'd just make bad parents. I beg you, oh please, please, please don't reproduce

I'm now tempted to raise the most flamboyantly gay children possible, just to spite people like your good self.
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Postby Mavorpen » Sat Dec 21, 2013 12:02 pm

Northern Commonwealth wrote:
Kelinfort wrote:I'd say "Son, I will always love you and care for you, because you are my son and you are amazing. I will always be at your side to help you through anything."

Also, you cannot turn gay...IT IS NOT A CHOICE. Please, please read the scientific data here: http://www.apa.org/helpcenter/sexual-orientation.aspx

That's western science you're referring to.
And if your son TURNING gay won't make you fell bad, well then you'd just make bad parents. I beg you, oh please, please, please don't reproduce

What is "western science"?
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Postby Novia Soviet Socialist Republic » Sat Dec 21, 2013 12:02 pm

Northern Commonwealth wrote:
Kelinfort wrote:I'd say "Son, I will always love you and care for you, because you are my son and you are amazing. I will always be at your side to help you through anything."

Also, you cannot turn gay...IT IS NOT A CHOICE. Please, please read the scientific data here: http://www.apa.org/helpcenter/sexual-orientation.aspx

That's western science you're referring to.
And if your son TURNING gay won't make you fell bad, well then you'd just make bad parents. I beg you, oh please, please, please don't reproduce


Yes, the same science that brought you the computer that you're typing on and the Internet you are using to spout your bull shit. Not your pseudo-science crap. It ain't a choice.
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Postby DesAnges » Sat Dec 21, 2013 12:02 pm

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Northern Commonwealth wrote:That's western science you're referring to.
And if your son TURNING gay won't make you fell bad, well then you'd just make bad parents. I beg you, oh please, please, please don't reproduce


What's wrong with western science, and why should a gay son make me feel bad?

Because the gay is bad.

Still haven't found out why yer man thinks this way, he just keep repeating the same tired rhetoric.
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Northern Commonwealth wrote:
Okay last argument. You will not change my opinion towards homosexuality etc. But all I can do is try and slightly change yours...
Imagine a situation. You're a grown man/woman, you're married, you have a son (and maybe some of you already do). He just turned 17 and on day tells you he turned gay because of his "ass-friend" Steve the Gaylord. How would you feel? You child, one you've raised and loved for half of your life, becomes so-called "different". How would you feel about never getting any grandchildren and realizing your son is being f*cke* in his butt*ole by another guy?
I'd say "Son, I will always love you and care for you, because you are my son and you are amazing. I will always be at your side to help you through anything."

Also, you cannot turn gay...IT IS NOT A CHOICE. Please, please read the scientific data here: http://www.apa.org/helpcenter/sexual-orientation.aspx
That's western science you're referring to.
And if your son TURNING gay won't make you fell bad, well then you'd just make bad parents. I beg you, oh please, please, please don't reproduce
"I beg you, oh please, please, please" SHUT UP
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Postby Bodobol » Sat Dec 21, 2013 12:03 pm

DesAnges wrote:
Northern Commonwealth wrote:That's western science you're referring to.
And if your son TURNING gay won't make you fell bad, well then you'd just make bad parents. I beg you, oh please, please, please don't reproduce

I'm now tempted to raise the most flamboyantly gay children possible, just to spite people like your good self.


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Postby Dragoria » Sat Dec 21, 2013 12:03 pm

Northern Commonwealth wrote:
Kelinfort wrote:I'd say "Son, I will always love you and care for you, because you are my son and you are amazing. I will always be at your side to help you through anything."

Also, you cannot turn gay...IT IS NOT A CHOICE. Please, please read the scientific data here: http://www.apa.org/helpcenter/sexual-orientation.aspx

That's western science you're referring to.
And if your son TURNING gay won't make you fell bad, well then you'd just make bad parents. I beg you, oh please, please, please don't reproduce
Science is universal, that's why it's science.
People don't turn gay. They either are or aren't. Or are bi.
If your love for your child is conditional, you only love them if they act/think/live the way you want them to, you have no business breeding ever. Parental love should be unconditional. No matter what they do, say, look/dress like, decide to bed, they're STILL your child and they still deserve your love.
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Postby Luveria » Sat Dec 21, 2013 12:04 pm

Northern Commonwealth wrote:
Kelinfort wrote:I'd say "Son, I will always love you and care for you, because you are my son and you are amazing. I will always be at your side to help you through anything."

Also, you cannot turn gay...IT IS NOT A CHOICE. Please, please read the scientific data here: http://www.apa.org/helpcenter/sexual-orientation.aspx

That's western science you're referring to.


So you have a source that homosexuality is a choice? Lets see that study. Don't be shy, post it.

Northern Commonwealth wrote:And if your son TURNING gay won't make you fell bad, well then you'd just make bad parents.


I don't see how it could possibly make me feel bad if it's impossible for anyone to turn gay. If I had a son that turned gay, he would be the first person in the history of humanity to turn gay.

It's interesting your idea of being a good parent is probably a parent taking a belt to their teen son and beating the fuck out of them until they stop liking other males. I'm sure you'd prefer that over a parent simply loving their child, accepting them regardless of their sexual orientation, and being there to support them.

Northern Commonwealth wrote:I beg you, oh please, please, please don't reproduce


That's my choice, not yours.
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Postby DesAnges » Sat Dec 21, 2013 12:05 pm

I'm feeling quite proud that no-one has fallen for the flamebait. Well done everyone.
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Postby New Chalcedon » Sat Dec 21, 2013 12:05 pm

Northern Commonwealth wrote:
Kelinfort wrote:I'd say "Son, I will always love you and care for you, because you are my son and you are amazing. I will always be at your side to help you through anything."

Also, you cannot turn gay...IT IS NOT A CHOICE. Please, please read the scientific data here: http://www.apa.org/helpcenter/sexual-orientation.aspx

That's western science you're referring to.


And the difference between "western" and "Russian" science is, again.....?

Oh, that's right - Western science waits for the results to become clear. Russian science knows what the results are in advance, because they were told by the Kremlin what their conclusions would be.

And if your son TURNING gay won't make you fell bad, well then you'd just make bad parents.


SHOUTING wrong concepts at us won't make them any less wrong. People do not "turn gay" - deal with it.

And if your son coming out of the closet would make you love him even one bit less, then you wouldn't be a "bad" parent - you'd be a terrible, emotionally-abusive parent. And I hope, for the sake of your hypothetical offspring, that you do some growing up before becoming a parent. About 20-25 years' worth of mental maturity, to start with.
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Postby Luveria » Sat Dec 21, 2013 12:06 pm

Mavorpen wrote:
Northern Commonwealth wrote:That's western science you're referring to.
And if your son TURNING gay won't make you fell bad, well then you'd just make bad parents. I beg you, oh please, please, please don't reproduce

What is "western science"?


This western science.

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