Utah Now Has Gay Marriage... Wow

[Socialist Austrian Empire]

I'll only be truly amazed when North Dakota legalizes it.

I'll only be truly amazed when Texas legalizes it.

I am impressed as is, utah is probably the most conservative state in the U.S.
That being said I am waiting for Alabama to legalize it to be amazed.

[Pratse]

Am I not allowed to be cryptic?

Of course you're allowed to be cryptic. And I'm also allowed to point out how I don't think you will achieve any sort of communication with that amount of crypticness.

Okay then, suit yourself (and myself).

[Caecuser]

Of course you're allowed to be cryptic. And I'm also allowed to point out how I don't think you will achieve any sort of communication with that amount of crypticness.

Okay then, suit yourself (and myself).

What was your original point again?

[Dyakovo]

I have a question for you, my good sirs - what happens to kids who are adopted into growing in a gay household? I'm just curious.

They grow up with two mommies or two daddies.

[Dalluria]

Democracy ain't a basic right. It's a terrible, massively flawed ideology that should have died with the Athenians.

No comment!

[Pratse]

Democracy ain't a basic right. It's a terrible, massively flawed ideology that should have died with the Athenians.

No comment!

Amen to Fascist Russian Empire!

[Luveria]

Why the hell should anyone care what the people of Commiefornia/Vermont/[insert blue hellhole here] want? If they want gay marriage, that's a nope! Can't let them decide stuff like that.

Your attitude towards Utahns is disgusting. Apparently supporting political ideologies that you don't like makes it okay to deny Utahns their right to democracy.

Democracy ain't a basic right. It's a terrible, massively flawed ideology that should have died with the Athenians.

Uhuh, that must be why every country that has legalized same-sex marriage is a democracy. Makes sense, opposing something which leads to more rights for you.

[Grenartia]

1. That's what basically EVERY church says. Doesn't mean its true.
2. Good for you. I'm not leaving TN unless its to go back to Louisiana or to visit a friend out of state. And I shouldn't have to do so just to be treated with the basic fucking dignity I deserve.
3. Mistranslated.

1. No protestant Church says it was founded by the apostles
2. Just wondering, how is it to live in Tennessee, I was thinking about moving there.
3. In every English translation, it says basically the same thing, just with different wording.

1. Uh, yeah, they do. I've been to several. The Baptist churches claim direct lineage (for lack of a better term) to the point from where John the Baptist baptized Jesus onwards.

2. It sucks, even if you're a straight white cisgender Christian guy. Nothing to do.

3. Because the mistranslations happened before the first English version was made.

[New Molsona]

2. The feeling is mutual
3. Just don't talk about that stuff outside your porn blog
4. So you're saying, everything that God said before Jesus was born should be thrown out the window. Looks like I can kill people and steal now and it wouldn't be a sin.

3. No, because its not actually against the rules, any more than a woman showing her ankles and elbows.

4. Not really, because those things deprive people of their rights without informed consent. Which is arguably the highest ethical law there is, and is a corollary to the Golden Rule that Jesus preached.

Just because it's not against the rules it doesn't mean you should do it. Do you flip off old women or burp in a veteran's face.

[Kelinfort]

3. No, because its not actually against the rules, any more than a woman showing her ankles and elbows.

4. Not really, because those things deprive people of their rights without informed consent. Which is arguably the highest ethical law there is, and is a corollary to the Golden Rule that Jesus preached.

Just because it's not against the rules it doesn't mean you should do it. Do you flip off old women or burp in a veteran's face.

Just because it's against an ancient morality in an ancient piece of literature, doesn't mean you should listen to it.

[Grenartia]

1.

This obviously means that the Founding Fathers believed in freedom, at least until one's actions deprive others of their rights (or else there'd be no point, because then it would be an exercise in futility). All one would have to do is convince them of the known facts about being LGBT, and in conjunction with little more than that one sentence, you can convince them that SSM is ok.

4. Molsona isn't allowing for an "abstain" option for my human rights.

1. That phrase is extremely open-ended. Don't you have a more concrete example?

4. And I am the culprit of Molsona's actions? Hey, just like those kids I talked about earlier.

1. Open-ended? That sentence is almost literally the culmination of Enlightenment-era thought on the subject.

4. No. But if Molsona thinks my civil rights should be put up to vote, why can't I call for theirs to be?

[Dyakovo]

3. No, because its not actually against the rules, any more than a woman showing her ankles and elbows.

4. Not really, because those things deprive people of their rights without informed consent. Which is arguably the highest ethical law there is, and is a corollary to the Golden Rule that Jesus preached.

Just because it's not against the rules it doesn't mean you should do it. Do you flip off old women or burp in a veteran's face.

I have, yes.

[Ifreann]

(Hint: Think school, think a place in society.)

Maybe you'd like to just say your piece instead of beating around the bush, hmm?

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Nothing, nothing at all. They are no different than anyone else.

Except for the almost inevitable bullying.

I imagine that children adopted by straight couples get bullied from time to time.

[Arglorand]

3. No, because its not actually against the rules, any more than a woman showing her ankles and elbows.

4. Not really, because those things deprive people of their rights without informed consent. Which is arguably the highest ethical law there is, and is a corollary to the Golden Rule that Jesus preached.

Just because it's not against the rules it doesn't mean you should do it. Do you flip off old women or burp in a veteran's face.

Why is a veteran more exempt from burping into his face than anyone else?

Isn't it kind of rude to burp into anyone's face?

[Mavorpen]

I'll only be truly amazed when North Dakota legalizes it.

I'll only be truly amazed when Texas legalizes it.

...Why?

I really wonder about you people who make these comments about Texas. Have you ever been here? A distinct majority of younger voters approve of gay marriage here and among Hispanics in general the numbers are reaching a majority, despite how conservative it currently is. I would be amazed if Texas didn't legalize it within the next 20 years or so.

[Ashmoria]

I have a question for you, my good sirs - what happens to kids who are adopted into growing in a gay household? I'm just curious.

they become adults?

[Grenartia]

I'll only be truly amazed when Texas legalizes it.

...Why?

I really wonder about you people who make these comments about Texas. Have you ever been here? A distinct majority of younger voters approve of gay marriage here and among Hispanics in general the numbers are reaching a majority, despite how conservative it currently is. I would be amazed if Texas didn't legalize it within the next 20 years or so.

Mainly because the perception is that despite those facts, many of the most prominent anti-LGBT icons are Texan.

EDIT:

Much like how, despite how much I talk about how anti-LGBT the state of TN is, in many respects, its rather progressive, with the larger cities trying to pass same-sex spouse benefits for city workers. Hell, I went to a rural school, and at least 80% of my friends were some member of the LGBT alphabet soup, and the school system as a whole had an anti-bullying policy that included bullying based on sexual orientation. Really the most flak I've gotten so far up here was when I tried to wear ducttape for Day of Silence (mainly from two teachers I didn't have, and the principal), hearing other students casually toss around homophobic insults among their friends in the halls, and being pelted with paper balls and erasers by middle schoolers on the bus.

[Ifreann]

I have a question for you, my good sirs - what happens to kids who are adopted into growing in a gay household? I'm just curious.

they become adults?

Some will probably just become taller, hairier children. But then, that's true of everyone, regardless of being adopted or the sexuality of one's parents.

[Kelinfort]

...Why?

I really wonder about you people who make these comments about Texas. Have you ever been here? A distinct majority of younger voters approve of gay marriage here and among Hispanics in general the numbers are reaching a majority, despite how conservative it currently is. I would be amazed if Texas didn't legalize it within the next 20 years or so.

Mainly because the perception is that despite those facts, many of the most prominent anti-LGBT icons are Texan.

I'd be truly amazed if Texas legalized with a Republican governor. I'd probably suffer a seizure if Rick Perry changed his mind.

[Mavorpen]

...Why?

I really wonder about you people who make these comments about Texas. Have you ever been here? A distinct majority of younger voters approve of gay marriage here and among Hispanics in general the numbers are reaching a majority, despite how conservative it currently is. I would be amazed if Texas didn't legalize it within the next 20 years or so.

Mainly because the perception is that despite those facts, many of the most prominent anti-LGBT icons are Texan.

Liberals in Texas need to organize better.

[The Scientific States]

I have a question for you, my good sirs - what happens to kids who are adopted into growing in a gay household? I'm just curious.

They grow up perfectly normal.

[Arglorand]

they become adults?

Some will probably just become taller, hairier children. But then, that's true of everyone, regardless of being adopted or the sexuality of one's parents.

Some of the kids will also simply die.

Illnesses and all.

[Kelinfort]

I have a question for you, my good sirs - what happens to kids who are adopted into growing in a gay household? I'm just curious.

They wake up, eat, go to school, come home, do homework, sleep, rinse and repeat, graduate, go to college(maybe), fall in love, and go into a professional career(maybe), all while growing up in a loving, caring household.

[Grenartia]

Mainly because the perception is that despite those facts, many of the most prominent anti-LGBT icons are Texan.

I'd be truly amazed if Texas legalized with a Republican governor. I'd probably suffer a seizure if Rick Perry changed his mind.

Mainly because the perception is that despite those facts, many of the most prominent anti-LGBT icons are Texan.

Liberals in Texas need to organize better.

Might want to look at the edit.

And yeah, Mav, we need to organize better in all the red states. But progress isn't as far away as we think, especially in states we think its least likely to happen soon in.

[Ashmoria]

they become adults?

Some will probably just become taller, hairier children. But then, that's true of everyone, regardless of being adopted or the sexuality of one's parents.

lol

now i have the mental image of an oversized, bearded 3 year old.