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Postby Kelinfort » Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:51 pm

Valcouria wrote:
Kelinfort wrote:You wish to exterminate them and all other religions right now.

One or the other will make the ultimate choice to do so...this world will either succumb to absolute sin and evil or will be blessed with a revival of good decent morality.

So...kill everyone to make the world good?

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Postby Ainin » Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:51 pm

Kelinfort wrote:

He won't accept logic from mortals observable reality.

Fixed :P
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Postby San » Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:51 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Valcouria wrote:One or the other will make the ultimate choice to do so...this world will either succumb to absolute sin and evil or will be blessed with a revival of good decent morality.

What denomination are you?

$10 on a certain type of Kansan baptist :3
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Postby Kelinfort » Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:52 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Valcouria wrote:One or the other will make the ultimate choice to do so...this world will either succumb to absolute sin and evil or will be blessed with a revival of good decent morality.

What denomination are you?

That one from Topeka.

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Postby Principality of Sonaco » Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:52 pm

Valcouria wrote:
Kelinfort wrote:You wish to exterminate them and all other religions right now.

One or the other will make the ultimate choice to do so...this world will either succumb to absolute sin and evil or will be blessed with a revival of good decent morality.

So you would be exterminating your messiah. He was a Jew and if he was alive he would have a thing or two to say about that.

I am an Icelandic Jew, born in Be'ersheba, Yishrael. I am just a bit younger than Yishrael itself.

Here is where I stand on Palestine.

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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:52 pm

Kelinfort wrote:
Valcouria wrote:One or the other will make the ultimate choice to do so...this world will either succumb to absolute sin and evil or will be blessed with a revival of good decent morality.

So...kill everyone to make the world good?

Actually, that sounds like a great idea! Death to humanity! No, we still have to clean up our mess.
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Postby Ainin » Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:52 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Valcouria wrote:One or the other will make the ultimate choice to do so...this world will either succumb to absolute sin and evil or will be blessed with a revival of good decent morality.

What denomination are you?

The Genocidal one, apparently.
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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:52 pm

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So then why God made it natural.

Sin is unnatural. Homosexuality is natural as even animals possess homosexual instincts. Why then did God let it into the world, if it was against reason?


Sin IS natural. And animals also did not used to eat each other until after the Great Fall. God did not let sin into the World, Man did after he disobeyed Him. Now if you don't believe the Bible, then.... 8)


You are actually talking to a Deist who was brought up under Catholic and Evangelical schools. So really, your sophomoric attempt at dismissing me because "I may not believe in the bible" is very disingenious.

And sin is not natural, as it does not follow God's reason. Also, animals did eat each other before the great fall. It's called the food chain, funny concept I know.

So again, if homosexuality is a sin, why is it natural?
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:52 pm

Kelinfort wrote:
Valcouria wrote:One or the other will make the ultimate choice to do so...this world will either succumb to absolute sin and evil or will be blessed with a revival of good decent morality.

So...kill everyone to make the world good?

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Postby Valcouria » Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:52 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Valcouria wrote:The purpose of gays is to show that they can overcome their preference for the same sex and live a normal life as a heterosexual without submitting to their evil desires. And the mere existence of one man and one woman show that it is natural that they are supposed to be together to the exclusion of all others, just as He intended from creating both.


And so why didn't he allow us the same free will to choose to be homosexuals?

Also, the mere existence of sponges shows God also intended asexuality for a reason.

Because He likely wanted to show than even weaker individuals could choose righteous and morality willingly and not fall to sin and evil. To be exemplary to the rest of us. Sadly, that is no longer the case, since their kind now openly embrace the evil afflicting them.
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Postby The Fascist American Empire » Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:52 pm

Valcouria wrote:
Kelinfort wrote:You wish to exterminate them and all other religions right now.

One or the other will make the ultimate choice to do so...this world will either succumb to absolute sin and evil or will be blessed with a revival of good decent morality.

THIS MAN OR WOMAN DOES NOT REPRESENT CHRISTIANITY IN ANY WAY!!!! We are a peaceful, tolerant religion! This is simply someone who focuses on one or seven tiny parts of the Bible and not the whole thing! Let us all ignore this fanatical whack job!

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Postby Neutraligon » Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:52 pm

Principality of Sonaco wrote:
Valcouria wrote:One or the other will make the ultimate choice to do so...this world will either succumb to absolute sin and evil or will be blessed with a revival of good decent morality.

So you would be exterminating your messiah. He was a Jew and if he was alive he would have a thing or two to say about that.


Wasn't it he or associated with the worst of the worst?
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Postby Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro » Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:53 pm

Neutraligon wrote:Awesome NM...can we start working on letting trans* into the military? Oh also...polygamy and polyandry would be nice too. :twisted:

No, the traditional concept of this is disgusting and should be banned.

For the certification of a true polyamory relationship, there should be public, long, wet kisses of joy between all partners and the ban of hetero harems. Nuff said.
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Postby Kelinfort » Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:53 pm

Ainin wrote:
Kelinfort wrote:He won't accept logic from mortals observable reality anyone but himself.

Fixed :P

Better :p

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Postby Jack Holland » Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:53 pm

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Ho ho, I second that. Will borrow that for future threads.
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Postby Valcouria » Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:53 pm

Kelinfort wrote:
Valcouria wrote:Of course you would say that, since you seem to think that all sexual preferences are 'normal'. It is not natural, and will never be. Every example that has or does exist is in contrivance to God's will, and will be punished accordingly.

But you just said God created them with a preference for homosexuality which shows it's indeed natural...you just disproved your own argument.

Not so much a preference as possessing a weaker will and thus subject to falling into sin.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:53 pm

Ainin wrote:
The Empire of Pretantia wrote:What denomination are you?

The Genocidal one, apparently.

That was a serious question, I really want to know.
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Postby Principality of Sonaco » Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:53 pm

The Fascist American Empire wrote:
Valcouria wrote:One or the other will make the ultimate choice to do so...this world will either succumb to absolute sin and evil or will be blessed with a revival of good decent morality.

THIS MAN OR WOMAN DOES NOT REPRESENT CHRISTIANITY IN ANY WAY!!!! We are a peaceful, tolerant religion! This is simply someone who focuses on one or seven tiny parts of the Bible and not the whole thing! Let us all ignore this fanatical whack job!

I understand.

I am an Icelandic Jew, born in Be'ersheba, Yishrael. I am just a bit younger than Yishrael itself.

Here is where I stand on Palestine.

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Postby Neutraligon » Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:54 pm

Can we please legalize polygamy and polyandry...
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Postby San » Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:54 pm

Valcouria wrote:
Kelinfort wrote:But you just said God created them with a preference for homosexuality which shows it's indeed natural...you just disproved your own argument.

Not so much a preference as possessing a weaker will and thus subject to falling into sin.

You've changed your mind now? You're admitting that homosexuality isn't a choice? Progress, ladies and gentlemen! You've witnessed it right here tonight!
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Postby Miyager » Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:54 pm

Valcouria wrote:
Fascist Russian Empire wrote:1: Yeah, genocide against 10% of humanity would be greatly approved of by God. Totally. He certainly wouldn't send you to hell for judging others or by condoning murder.
2: It ain't your place to judge others. If homosexuality actually is a sin(which I highly doubt it is), then God would deal with it himself.

You don't think it a sin because you have decided to partake in the behavior, and so want to feel safe from the punishment that will ensue.


I'm pretty sure it'd be more sinful to say that free-will, which god needs to quite obviously have designed humans with deliberately, doesn't apply because "lel i said so."
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Postby Gauthier » Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:54 pm

Oh goody, another thread derailed into a theology pageant.
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Postby Kelinfort » Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:54 pm

Valcouria wrote:
Kelinfort wrote:But you just said God created them with a preference for homosexuality which shows it's indeed natural...you just disproved your own argument.

Not so much a preference as possessing a weaker will and thus subject to falling into sin.

But still, God gave them that weaker will with full knowledge they would be homosexual? It's still natural by your own claim.

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Postby Valcouria » Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:55 pm

The Empire of Pretantia wrote:
Valcouria wrote:One or the other will make the ultimate choice to do so...this world will either succumb to absolute sin and evil or will be blessed with a revival of good decent morality.

What denomination are you?

Roman Catholic, but I have been exploring Eastern Orthodoxy recently as a personal interest.
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Postby Ainin » Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:55 pm

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Ainin wrote:Fixed :P

Better :p

Indeed.
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