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Postby Fascist Russian Empire » Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:46 pm

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San wrote:No priest/church/etc will be forced to conduct a wedding to same-sex couples. only if they are comfortable performing the ceremony.

For now; in time, you and your kind will either force them to do so or otherwise exterminate them entirely for failing to adhere to your twisted sense of what is right.

I certainly hope so. Churches don't have the right to deny people rights because of sexual orientation.

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Sorry I mean't "What" English is my fourth language,

I meant nothing by it, was just being silly.
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:46 pm

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Ainin wrote:1. Well, God isn't exactly a role model. Committing mass murders against a country for its king deciding to conduct a census just seems a little bit harsh to me.

Lucifer killed less. And he gave us knowledge. I say Lucifer is already a better god.

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Postby Valcouria » Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:47 pm

Fascist Russian Empire wrote:
Valcouria wrote:If I must go to save humanity from eternal evil, then I will do so.

1: Yeah, genocide against 10% of humanity would be greatly approved of by God. Totally. He certainly wouldn't send you to hell for judging others or by condoning murder.
2: It ain't your place to judge others. If homosexuality actually is a sin(which I highly doubt it is), then God would deal with it himself.

You don't think it a sin because you have decided to partake in the behavior, and so want to feel safe from the punishment that will ensue.
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Postby Jack Holland » Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:47 pm

Soldati senza confini wrote:
Jack Holland wrote:Human nature was twisted by sin and homosexuality is one of the many sinful natures that man has.


So then why God made it natural.

Sin is unnatural. Homosexuality is natural as even animals possess homosexual instincts. Why then did God let it into the world, if it was against reason?


Sin IS natural. And animals also did not used to eat each other until after the Great Fall. God did not let sin into the World, Man did after he disobeyed Him. Now if you don't believe the Bible, then.... 8)
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Postby Aeken » Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:47 pm

Valcouria wrote:
Fascist Russian Empire wrote:1: Yeah, genocide against 10% of humanity would be greatly approved of by God. Totally. He certainly wouldn't send you to hell for judging others or by condoning murder.
2: It ain't your place to judge others. If homosexuality actually is a sin(which I highly doubt it is), then God would deal with it himself.

You don't think it a sin because you have decided to partake in the behavior, and so want to feel safe from the punishment that will ensue.

This is getting stupid again.

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Postby Soldati Senza Confini » Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:48 pm

Valcouria wrote:The purpose of gays is to show that they can overcome their preference for the same sex and live a normal life as a heterosexual without submitting to their evil desires. And the mere existence of one man and one woman show that it is natural that they are supposed to be together to the exclusion of all others, just as He intended from creating both.


And so why didn't he allow us the same free will to choose to be homosexuals?

Also, the mere existence of sponges shows God also intended asexuality for a reason.
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Postby Wisconsin9 » Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:48 pm

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Valcouria wrote:You don't think it a sin because you have decided to partake in the behavior, and so want to feel safe from the punishment that will ensue.

This is getting stupid again.

It started stupid and went downhill from there.
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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:48 pm

Valcouria wrote:
Fascist Russian Empire wrote:1: Yeah, genocide against 10% of humanity would be greatly approved of by God. Totally. He certainly wouldn't send you to hell for judging others or by condoning murder.
2: It ain't your place to judge others. If homosexuality actually is a sin(which I highly doubt it is), then God would deal with it himself.

You don't think it a sin because you have decided to partake in the behavior, and so want to feel safe from the punishment that will ensue.

Actually, I feel quite safe with the punishment, seeing as nothing will happen.
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Postby Principality of Sonaco » Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:48 pm

Valcouria wrote:
Fascist Russian Empire wrote:1: Yeah, genocide against 10% of humanity would be greatly approved of by God. Totally. He certainly wouldn't send you to hell for judging others or by condoning murder.
2: It ain't your place to judge others. If homosexuality actually is a sin(which I highly doubt it is), then God would deal with it himself.

You don't think it a sin because you have decided to partake in the behavior, and so want to feel safe from the punishment that will ensue.

All love is te same, whether between a gay or a hetero. Is that so hard to accept?

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Postby Fascist Russian Empire » Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:49 pm

Valcouria wrote:
Fascist Russian Empire wrote:1: Yeah, genocide against 10% of humanity would be greatly approved of by God. Totally. He certainly wouldn't send you to hell for judging others or by condoning murder.
2: It ain't your place to judge others. If homosexuality actually is a sin(which I highly doubt it is), then God would deal with it himself.

You don't think it a sin because you have decided to partake in the behavior, and so want to feel safe from the punishment that will ensue.

1: I don't think that it is a sin because I see no real evidence to support that theory.
2: I don't "partake" in homosexuality. I'm attracted to men sexually(without a choice in the matter); big fucking deal.
3: If homosexuality is a sin(which it ain't), then that is between me and God, and it ain't your place to judge me for it.

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Postby Valcouria » Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:49 pm

Kelinfort wrote:
Valcouria wrote:The purpose of gays is to show that they can overcome their preference for the same sex and live a normal life as a heterosexual without submitting to their evil desires. And the mere existence of one man and one woman show that it is natural that they are supposed to be together to the exclusion of all others, just as He intended from creating both.

Wow...that made God seem like a jerk...but no, it's natural because God wanted them to find love and care for one another, this advancing humankind.

Of course you would say that, since you seem to think that all sexual preferences are 'normal'. It is not natural, and will never be. Every example that has or does exist is in contrivance to God's will, and will be punished accordingly.
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Postby Aeken » Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:49 pm

Wisconsin9 wrote:
Aeken wrote:This is getting stupid again.

It started stupid and went downhill from there.

It was getting funny for a bit though.

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Postby Rocopurr » Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:49 pm

Valcouria wrote:
Fascist Russian Empire wrote:1: Yeah, genocide against 10% of humanity would be greatly approved of by God. Totally. He certainly wouldn't send you to hell for judging others or by condoning murder.
2: It ain't your place to judge others. If homosexuality actually is a sin(which I highly doubt it is), then God would deal with it himself.

You don't think it a sin because you have decided to partake in the behavior, and so want to feel safe from the punishment that will ensue.

I haven't looked back in the thread, but you're one of those 'gays can't get married because Jebus' guys, right? Marriage is only religious if you get married in a religious place and make it religious, so...
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Postby The Fascist American Empire » Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:49 pm

I believe that it's either through psychological scarring (child molestation) or simply in the genetic code. Either way, I'm willing to tolerate it. I have a few friends who are gay, lesbian, and bisexual. No different from anybody else in all honesty. What goes on in the bedroom is your own private business, I don't care to hear about it, you don't care to hear about my private business, if everybody just stayed out of everybody's business then everybody would be perfectly happy.

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Postby Ainin » Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:50 pm

Valcouria wrote:Of course you would say that, since you seem to think that all sexual preferences are 'normal'.

How many times do we have to refer you here?
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Postby San » Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:50 pm

Rocopurr wrote:
Valcouria wrote:You don't think it a sin because you have decided to partake in the behavior, and so want to feel safe from the punishment that will ensue.

I haven't looked back in the thread, but you're one of those 'gays can't get married because Jebus' guys, right? Marriage is only religious if you get married in a religious place and make it religious, so...

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Postby Kelinfort » Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:50 pm

Valcouria wrote:
Kelinfort wrote:Wow...that made God seem like a jerk...but no, it's natural because God wanted them to find love and care for one another, this advancing humankind.

Of course you would say that, since you seem to think that all sexual preferences are 'normal'. It is not natural, and will never be. Every example that has or does exist is in contrivance to God's will, and will be punished accordingly.

But you just said God created them with a preference for homosexuality which shows it's indeed natural...you just disproved your own argument.

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Postby Neutraligon » Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:50 pm

Awesome NM...can we start working on letting trans* into the military? Oh also...polygamy and polyandry would be nice too. :twisted:
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Postby Valcouria » Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:50 pm

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Valcouria wrote:For now; in time, you and your kind will either force them to do so or otherwise exterminate them entirely for failing to adhere to your twisted sense of what is right.

You wish to exterminate them and all other religions right now.

One or the other will make the ultimate choice to do so...this world will either succumb to absolute sin and evil or will be blessed with a revival of good decent morality.
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Postby Hungaristan » Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:50 pm

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San wrote:No priest/church/etc will be forced to conduct a wedding to same-sex couples. only if they are comfortable performing the ceremony.

For now; in time, you and your kind will either force them to do so or otherwise exterminate them entirely for failing to adhere to your twisted sense of what is right.


I am pretty sure that won't happen. I am pretty sure the oppression of religion will hit a brick wall soon, once we learn to tolerate one another.
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Postby Kelinfort » Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:50 pm

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Valcouria wrote:Of course you would say that, since you seem to think that all sexual preferences are 'normal'.

How many times do we have to refer you here?

He won't accept logic from mortals.

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Postby Fascist Russian Empire » Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:50 pm

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Human nature was twisted by sin and homosexuality is one of the many sinful natures that man has.

That would be a proper clause...If homosexuality weren't naturally found in nearly every other mammal species on Earth.

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Postby The Scientific States » Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:51 pm

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Postby The Empire of Pretantia » Thu Dec 19, 2013 7:51 pm

Valcouria wrote:
Kelinfort wrote:You wish to exterminate them and all other religions right now.

One or the other will make the ultimate choice to do so...this world will either succumb to absolute sin and evil or will be blessed with a revival of good decent morality.

What denomination are you?
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