Your thoughts on communism?

[New Laikland]

Yes, and the abolition of private property, work place democracy, etc.
Communism is the same stuff, just without a state.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/socialism
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/communism

hm

[Unitaristic Regions]

No, that's because Americans can be idiots. Don't blame rabid patriotism and disinformation on communism.

I'm not. If someone says some of the best reforms capitalism experienced were as a response to communism's existence, I can say that about the worst setbacks that happened from a fear of communism (due to its existence) which led to a kneejerk reaction against anything remotely beneficial to the poor.

Fair enough .

[Clone Creatures]

First of all, compulsory anything is either communism or fascism: Period.
Second of all, firearms are the only thing preventing total global fascism.
Not Global Communism.

Guns, and personal access to weapons is the only thing which has ever enabled any liberty what so ever on earth.

Why? Because people think they need governments, and because they can be convinced they need them, then other people think they have to have an organized defense against them. Just in case they turn in to nut cases ya know.

This is why President George Washington spend the majority of his life organizing a military system in the United States which was decentralized. It was called Washingtons Plan No#2 For the Organization of Militia.

Because this understanding of the critical nature of the design is not known any longer, it is not appreciated how
critical this design was to the internal security of the United States in sustaining liberty and independence from a centralized government.

Guns defend liberty?

...

What the-

Thomas Jefferson said guns should be enshrined in every home. Quigley said that the only time liberty has ever existed is when the people where armed and armed with weapons equal to the military.

If you understand Washingtons plan than you understand that it is the local militia who are armed with the weapons of war, and these would be your own kids who would serve locally. In this way control over the sword of the nation is maintained by the people themselves.

The people need to be armed but in a responsible way. This has been removed, as well as the knowledge of how it was once accomplished.

[Bojikami]

I'm a communist. So...

[Estado Paulista]

The examples of countries with all characteristics cited stopped at Uruguay, yep.

And I told you why Uruguay votes for the left, so your argument is invalid.

[The Time Alliance]

I am a Capitalist.
I Do think Communism would be okay if done in it's pure form (Marxism). In fact Marxism and Direct Democracy are the only two pure forms of Government just on separate sides of the Spectrum.

Ugh, what?
Direct democracy isn't on the political spectrum.

well naw dip Sherlock....I mean whilst Communism is more Left Wing. A Direct democracy is more right wing.

[Unitaristic Regions]

Definition varies depending on who you ask, but I strongly disagree with you. Social democracy is, by any logical definition, socialism through democracy.

socialism ≠ capitalism

Thus, you are wrong.

No sorry you are wrong. Socialism requires the workers to control the means of production, Democratic Socialism seeks to create a strong welfare, education and / or healthcare state with high amounts of state intervention and usually quite high taxes (particularly for the rich and for big businesses), but the bourgeoisie still control the means of production (they just have to be much cleverer, luckier, wealthier or more ruthless to survive and prosper). As the bourgeoisie and not the workers control the means of production under Democratic Socialism, it is actually just a leftist form of Capitalism.

Sorry, but I disagree. You're talking about social democracy here .

[Duvniask]

Social democracy is Bread-And-Circuses-Capitalism.
You might be thinking Democratic socialism.

I know Wikipedia isn't the best of sources, but... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Social_democracy

Still socialism.

No, it doesn't exactly advocate social ownership.

Social democracy is a political ideology that officially has as its goal the establishment of democratic socialism through reformist and gradualist methods.[1] Alternatively, social democracy is defined as a policy regime involving a universal welfare state and collective bargaining schemes within the framework of a capitalist economy. It is often used in this manner to refer to the social models and economic policies prominent in Western and Northern Europe during the later half of the 20th century.[2][3]

This is what social democracy has evolved to.

[Multiversal Domanaeii]

The most vile thing ever invented my man after god.

The sheer ignorance from this post radiates like the Sun.

Anyways, my thoughts on communism is that it can work as an economic practice in it's pure form.

[Tengria]

You said that in a capitalist system you work solely to enrich the nation.

To your leaders, you are.

You're not making much sense. Are you implying socialism is better in that regard?

[Hetalian Indie Rio de Janeiro]

The examples of countries with all characteristics cited stopped at Uruguay, yep.

And I told you why Uruguay votes for the left, so your argument is invalid.

I don't even remember my point anymore.

[The Time Alliance]

The most vile thing ever invented my man after god.

The sheer ignorance from this post radiates like the Sun.

Anyways, my thoughts on communism is that it can work as an economic practice in it's pure form.

[The Scientific States]

A ideology that is pretty silly. I sympathize with more libertarian communists, but it's a ideology that can't work in practice.

[Kronstad]

1. Capitalism can be classless, too. Classes have literally nothing to do with any ideology.
2. A society that everybody shares in the same wealth despite varying levels of production is unfair and disgusting. In Capitalism, you earn what you work for.
3.In Communism, you steal what someone else works for.

1. good joke
2. indeed, compared to capitalism, socialism surely is unfair, for 134 people having over $1 billion (2 of whom have around about over $50 billion every year, Bill Gates and Carlos Slim) is more fair 7 billion having money
3. in communism, all work for the same things and they share them; you need to search "steal" and "share" in a dictionary

[New Laikland]

Thomas Jefferson said guns should be enshrined in every home. Quigley said that the only time liberty has ever existed is when the people where armed and armed with weapons equal to the military.

If you understand Washingtons plan than you understand that it is the local militia who are armed with the weapons of war, and these would be your own kids who would serve locally. In this way control over the sword of the nation is maintained by the people themselves.

Having had this removes by stealth, the personal weapon are last defense, but against the coming wave of robots it won't be enough.

An Armed Populace protects their own "liberty". Guns don't protect anything without people. Unless they're robotic. But by that point, they'd have already taken over the world and enslaved us.

[Nervium]

Ugh, what?
Direct democracy isn't on the political spectrum.

well naw dip Sherlock....I mean whilst Communism is more Left Wing. A Direct democracy is more right wing.

No, it isn't.

You can have direct democracy in any system, left or right, because it's not an ideology.
In fact, communism is a form of direct democracy, because it demands democracy in the work place.

[Norvinland]

I more of a socialist. As for communism, I'd have to say I'm pretty much neutral.

[Immoren]

An Armed Populace protects their own "liberty". Guns don't protect anything without people. Unless they're robotic. But by that point, they'd have already taken over the world and enslaved us.

Nonsense. We program them to protect the human life at all costs. *nods*

[New Laikland]

1. good joke
2. indeed, compared to capitalism, socialism surely is unfair, for 134 people having over $1 billion (2 of whom have around about over $50 billion every year, Bill Gates and Carlos Slim) is more fair 7 billion having money
3. in communism, all work for the same things and they share them; you need to search "steal" and "share" in a dictionary

1. Oh? I just provided links above why;
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/communism
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/socialism
2. I wish we had wealth equality like North Korea! Dear Leader is just as wealthy as every person! Those guys worked for their wealth, they earned it.
3. See above.

[New Laikland]

Nonsense. We program them to protect the human life at all costs. *nods*

Yes, no worries, we program them to protect us...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3F0Xx-oQKsU

[Unitaristic Regions]

To your leaders, you are.

You're not making much sense. Are you implying socialism is better in that regard?

Depends on what breed of socialism. Look, I'm a socialist, because I think it's the best way for the individual to grow, learn and critizice. I don't think the collective matters so much, actually, I care about fairness and honest individualism.

[Kronstad]

1. Social democracy is a political ideology that officially has as its goal the establishment of democratic socialism through reformist and gradualist methods.[1] Alternatively, social democracy is defined as a policy regime involving a universal welfare state and collective bargaining schemes within the framework of a capitalist economy. It is often used in this manner to refer to the social models and economic policies prominent in Western and Northern Europe during the later half of the 20th century.[2][3]

2. This is what social democracy has evolved to.

1. Wikipedia isn't a credible source; I or you or anyone else can go and edit Wikipedia now and then link their writings
2. this is how some interpret social democracy

[Clone Creatures]

The most vile thing ever invented my man after god.

The sheer ignorance from this post radiates like the Sun.

Anyways, my thoughts on communism is that it can work as an economic practice in it's pure form.

My thoughts are why in hell anyone thinks they need a government to begin with.
In the last century 300 million people have been murdered by their own governments, and
then the fools want to disarm to make it easier?

[The Time Alliance]

well naw dip Sherlock....I mean whilst Communism is more Left Wing. A Direct democracy is more right wing.

No, it isn't.

You can have direct democracy in any system, left or right, because it's not an ideology.
In fact, communism is a form of direct democracy, because it demands democracy in the work place.

No it isn't.
How does it demand Democracy in a work place? It requires everyone be completely equal. That's not democracy.

[Immoren]

Nonsense. We program them to protect the human life at all costs. *nods*

Yes, no worries, we program them to protect us...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3F0Xx-oQKsU

Obviously three( plus one) laws of robotics are built in them as part of their hardware.