Your thoughts on communism?

[Shinpitekina]

Why are you insulting him ?

Because he has been insulting me. It appears you are all trying to gang up on me.

Have you reported it? Can you point where you were insulted?

[United British Union]

Because he has been insulting me. It appears you are all trying to gang up on me.

Because you're a liar. See bolded:

And made posts to the effect of "oh, one is a Lady. One has many servants. Here is a picture of one's house. *Proceeds to post large picture of random castle thing*".

EDIT: Reverse image searched that picture. Turns out it is Dunster Castle. Are you by any chance a member of the Luttrell family? Probably not...

As I wrote earlier on, it is not where I live-it was an example.

But may I add you are a very clever person

[The Land of Truth]

1. Incorrect. Communism, or any other anarchic ideology, will have a government. It is the state that is abolished.

2. A communist society would abolish the state, not the government.

3. You can't just leap from capitalist society to communism. You must a have a socialist transitional phase, a dictatorship of the proletariat. Money, class, and the state or to ingrained to abolish them overnight.

Incorrect, as a new ruling class would be antithetical to the abolition of classes advocated by communism. Both would have to go, the state and ruling class.

Not if the means of production are commonly owned, as they would be in a socialist state.

[Socialist Tera]

Not that specific example, but yes to a certain extant. If we go back to before the agricultural revolution, we have tribal socieities owning virtually all the land on earth in common (with the obvious exceptions of Antarctic, etc.).

So you admit to being wrong then? After all, the claim was that all land is stolen. Where is your proof that this common ownership ended on theft?

Land is not a commodity.

[The Scientific States]

Because capitalism is so terrible, amiright?

Yes?

Why is it terrible? It's given the Western World great living standards, everything around you that is a item was produced by the "capitalist system."

It seems like you believe capitalism automatically means, unregulated, laissez faire capitalism.

Regulated capitalism, like the kind we have in the developed world, works great.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Because he has been insulting me. It appears you are all trying to gang up on me.

Have you reported it? Can you point where you were insulted?

Can you get back on topic and ignore the poser?

[Conscentia]

Because he has been insulting me. It appears you are all trying to gang up on me.

It is the internet, it is very typical for members to gang up on somehow who they do not like or they do not share the same opinion on the same subject Mister.

This has nothing to do with his opinion - it's to do with the erroneous basis of his opinion.

[New Aerios]

Because you're a liar. See bolded:

And made posts to the effect of "oh, one is a Lady. One has many servants. Here is a picture of one's house. *Proceeds to post large picture of random castle thing*".

EDIT: Reverse image searched that picture. Turns out it is Dunster Castle. Are you by any chance a member of the Luttrell family? Probably not...

As I wrote earlier on, it is not where I live-it was an example.

But may I add you are a very clever person

The context of the photo certainly didn't make it sound like an example. You've been found out, and you're trying to cover your arse by denying your previous lies.

[The Land of Truth]

Yes?

Why is it terrible? It's given the Western World great living standards, everything around you that is a item was produced by the "capitalist system."

It seems like you believe capitalism automatically means, unregulated, laissez faire capitalism.

Regulated capitalism, like the kind we have in the developed world, works great.

Yeah, except for the millions of poor, starving people all around the world, it works fine.

[Blasveck]

Yes?

Why is it terrible? It's given the Western World great living standards, everything around you that is a item was produced by the "capitalist system."

It seems like you believe capitalism automatically means, unregulated, laissez faire capitalism.

Regulated capitalism, like the kind we have in the developed world, works great.

It sure does work great, provided the Chinese work in substandard working conditions.

If that's your definition of 'works', then sure, it works.

[The Scientific States]

Why is it terrible? It's given the Western World great living standards, everything around you that is a item was produced by the "capitalist system."

It seems like you believe capitalism automatically means, unregulated, laissez faire capitalism.

Regulated capitalism, like the kind we have in the developed world, works great.

Yeah, except for the millions of poor, starving people all around the world, it works fine.

There are many more starving people in countries where the markets aren't free. Am I saying those countries are socialist? No, but they're certainly not capitalist.

You clearly have no understanding of capitalism.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Why is it terrible? It's given the Western World great living standards, everything around you that is a item was produced by the "capitalist system."

It seems like you believe capitalism automatically means, unregulated, laissez faire capitalism.

Regulated capitalism, like the kind we have in the developed world, works great.

Yeah, except for the millions of poor, starving people all around the world, it works fine.

Oh, and that's clearly all capitalism's fault and not any of the other ideologies that existed alongside world starvation.

[Socialist Tera]

Yes?

Why is it terrible? It's given the Western World great living standards, everything around you that is a item was produced by the "capitalist system."

It seems like you believe capitalism automatically means, unregulated, laissez faire capitalism.

Regulated capitalism, like the kind we have in the developed world, works great.

Capitalism's real success is in Africa, South America and Asia.

[Nationes Pii Redivivi]

I understand dictatorship of the proletariat to mean a government of the proletariat, but 1. any government at all would be an impedement to total freedom and Communism, whether it be a bourgeois dictatorship or a proletarian dictatorship. 2. A truly communist society would transcend class and government, where 3. Marxist's 'transitional' government has the power to stay pernament and create a new class and a new hierarchical structure.

1. Incorrect. Communism, or any other anarchic ideology, will have a government. It is the state that is abolished.

And a dictatorship of the proletariat is not a state?

A truly communistic society, that is, founded upon free association of producers, would have no government, nor any need of it.

2. A communist society would abolish the state, not the government.

What is your distinction between a state and a government?

I do not see how a society founded upon equals would need government at all.

3. You can't just leap from capitalist society to communism. You must a have a socialist transitional phase, a dictatorship of the proletariat. Money, class, and the state or to ingrained to abolish them overnight.

Why not?

When one fight against feudalism, one does not install feudalism mild and say that this is the correct approach because feudalism is too ingrained into society, nor does one go about saying that blacks should live in semi-slavery because 'they are not used to freedom yet'.

[Shinpitekina]

I am communist,only people what i hate is capitalists! They are eating our world,they raid and kill each other for what think?? MONEY!!!!! All communists know that,we cannot talk about this in public because they could kill us! So think about communists,we work togheter,we raise economy togheter,and capitalists dont understoond that.For me capitalists are and this is communists



DEATH TO CAPITALISM!! FREEDOM TO PEOPLE!!

I am sorry you feel that way. With your poor generalizations of capitalists and communists, you give communism a bad name.

[Nervium]

Yes?

Why is it terrible? It's given the Western World great living standards, everything around you that is a item was produced by the "capitalist system."

It seems like you believe capitalism automatically means, unregulated, laissez faire capitalism.

Regulated capitalism, like the kind we have in the developed world, works great.

Living standards that still have a great divide between rich and poor, I'm not going to spend the rest of my life appreciating or thanking a system that oppresses other people to help a select club.
Regulated capitalism is not optimal, and must eventually be abolished.

[The Land of Truth]

Yeah, except for the millions of poor, starving people all around the world, it works fine.

There are many more starving people in countries where the markets aren't free. Am I saying those countries are socialist? No, but they're certainly not capitalist.

You clearly have no understanding of capitalism.

Considering that every country in the world is capitalist, bullshit.

[Luveria]

Why is it terrible? It's given the Western World great living standards, everything around you that is a item was produced by the "capitalist system."

It seems like you believe capitalism automatically means, unregulated, laissez faire capitalism.

Regulated capitalism, like the kind we have in the developed world, works great.

Yeah, except for the millions of poor, starving people all around the world, it works fine.

Yeah, and it's socialism's fault for people starving in North Korea.

And it's socialism's fault for people who were starving in Cambodia.

Just like you act as if laissez-faire is the only type of capitalism, I can act as if nutjobs like Pol Pot are the only kind of socialists.

[The Scientific States]

Why is it terrible? It's given the Western World great living standards, everything around you that is a item was produced by the "capitalist system."

It seems like you believe capitalism automatically means, unregulated, laissez faire capitalism.

Regulated capitalism, like the kind we have in the developed world, works great.

It sure does work great, provided the Chinese work in substandard working conditions.

If that's your definition of 'works', then sure, it works.

I'm not all for every aspect of it, we do need regulations on shipping jobs abroad, in fact that's one flaw of the capitalist system we have currently, however we can still have capitalism, and workers/labour rights. We don't need to go overboard on globalization, which we are unfortunately doing.

[Socialist Tera]

It is the internet, it is very typical for members to gang up on somehow who they do not like or they do not share the same opinion on the same subject Mister.

This has nothing to do with his opinion - it's to do with the erroneous basis of his opinion.

So you do not like the basis of his beliefs on politeness.

[The Scientific States]

There are many more starving people in countries where the markets aren't free. Am I saying those countries are socialist? No, but they're certainly not capitalist.

You clearly have no understanding of capitalism.

Considering that every country in the world is capitalist, bullshit.

Not every country in the world is capitalist. Not even close.

[Luveria]

I am communist,only people what i hate is capitalists! They are eating our world,they raid and kill each other for what think?? MONEY!!!!! All communists know that,we cannot talk about this in public because they could kill us! So think about communists,we work togheter,we raise economy togheter,and capitalists dont understoond that.For me capitalists are and this is communists



DEATH TO CAPITALISM!! FREEDOM TO PEOPLE!!

I am sorry you feel that way. With your poor generalizations of capitalists and communists, you give communism a bad name.

Now you know how I feel about anti-communists making ridiculously false arguments.

[The Land of Truth]

Yeah, except for the millions of poor, starving people all around the world, it works fine.

Yeah, and it's socialism's fault for people starving in North Korea.

And it's socialism's fault for people who were starving in Cambodia.

Just like you act as if laissez-faire is the only type of capitalism, I can act as if nutjobs like Pol Pot are the only kind of socialists.

1. Except if North Korea was socialist, nobody would be starving, because they'd have enough food to go around.

2. Same for Cambodia.

3. Please quote me where I said that.

[The Empire of Pretantia]

Why is it terrible? It's given the Western World great living standards, everything around you that is a item was produced by the "capitalist system."

It seems like you believe capitalism automatically means, unregulated, laissez faire capitalism.

Regulated capitalism, like the kind we have in the developed world, works great.

Capitalism's real success is in Africa, South America and Asia.

While I can't say communism did much for Africa or South America(Barring Cuba and a couple other countries), it sure has done wonders for Asia.

[Socialist Tera]

Yeah, except for the millions of poor, starving people all around the world, it works fine.

Yeah, and it's socialism's fault for people starving in North Korea.

And it's socialism's fault for people who were starving in Cambodia.

Just like you act as if laissez-faire is the only type of capitalism, I can act as if nutjobs like Pol Pot are the only kind of socialists.

I guess you forgot Africa, South America and Asia. Capitalism supports neo-imperialism, the exploit of workers in overseas countries for the cheap commodities of labour and resources.