Your thoughts on communism?

[Socialist Tera]

If we were all equal, as the Communists wish, then how would it be any good? Who, sirs, would run the government?

In the socialist stage it should be democratic but eventually there will be no state and society will be classless and stateless.

[United British Union]

So someone ha some sense!

Who normally rules in direct democracy?

The 'people.' And we do know what has happened during such. It is the Upper-Class, I belive, who provide the jobs-the Lower Classes are the ones that work in these jobs.

[Vashtanaraada]

If we were all equal, as the Communists wish, then how would it be any good? Who, sirs, would run the government?

So someone ha some sense!

Who normally rules in direct democracy?

[British Monarchist2]

What you call freedom, I call privilege. The "freedom" of oppressors is actually the privilege. We must remove all class, race, gender and sexuality privilege from the world. With privilege, we can have no freedom.

I fail to see how my 'freedoms' are 'privileges', where you would like 'freedom'.

I am all for removing class, getting rid of gender, racial, and sexual inequality, I just don't see your distinction between 'privilege' and 'freedom'. both of which you have not defined clearly, only to constrast what my 'freedoms' are to your 'freedoms'.

I just want to know the majority of people's thoughts on communism.

If we did at then I'd loose my job!

[Good Mind]

The reds have ruined everything they have been in charge of.

Workers didn't had control of anything so you can't prove your point that Reds ruined everything.

[Conscentia]

Communism starts via one presenting equality and freedom. It usually ends in millions of people starving and homeless and the leaders living in luxury. One must understand this is what happened in Communist Russia.

No one with the most basic understanding of the history of the USSR calls it "Communist Russia".

It was called the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, not the Union of Soviet Communist Republics. There is no mention of communism in the Soviet constitution. Soviet propaganda promotes the transition toward communism (ie. communism hasn't been achieved yet.). Soviet people joked about the official position that it is the grandchildren who will live to see communism, not the current generation.

In-fact, the references socialism of the USSR was a propaganda trick to make the public believe that the authoritarian regime was ultimately benevolent. In reality, the Soviet economy was nothing more than one giant capitalist monopoly run by government officials - State capitalism.

State capitalism is usually described as an economic system in which commercial (i.e. for-profit) economic activity is undertaken by the state, with management and organization of the means of production in a capitalist manner, including the system of wage labor and centralized management.[1] This designation applies to economies regardless of the political aims of the state, even if the state is nominally socialist.[2] State capitalism is characterized by the dominance of state-owned business enterprises in the economy.

[Socialist Tera]

I fail to see how my 'freedoms' are 'privileges', where you would like 'freedom'.

I am all for removing class, getting rid of gender, racial, and sexual inequality, I just don't see your distinction between 'privilege' and 'freedom'. both of which you have not defined clearly, only to constrast what my 'freedoms' are to your 'freedoms'.

My Lord-why? Then we would loose our houses, estates, money...

Don't strawman it. We will only take away the bourgeoisie rights to exploit others.

[Nationes Pii Redivivi]

I fail to see how my 'freedoms' are 'privileges', where you would like 'freedom'.

I am all for removing class, getting rid of gender, racial, and sexual inequality, I just don't see your distinction between 'privilege' and 'freedom'. both of which you have not defined clearly, only to constrast what my 'freedoms' are to your 'freedoms'.

I just want to know the majority of people's thoughts on communism.

If we did at then I'd loose my job!

So?

[United British Union]

The reds have ruined everything they have been in charge of.

Workers didn't had control of anything so you can't prove your point that Reds ruined everything.

Well, I would agree with this person. Their economy, military, even society collapses in the end. One cannot live without a class to work too!

[Duvniask]

Workers didn't had control of anything so you can't prove your point that Reds ruined everything.

Well, I would agree with this person. Their economy, military, even society collapses in the end. One cannot live without a class to work too!

Source?

[Nationes Pii Redivivi]

Workers didn't had control of anything so you can't prove your point that Reds ruined everything.

Well, I would agree with this person. Their economy, military, even society collapses in the end. One cannot live without a class to work too!

One can live, however, without a class that does no work.

[ShadowDragons]

Ineffective on a large scale. The government leaders get rich the majority of the population is poor. Less freedom than capitalism. Those sum up my thoughts on communism.

[The Scientific States]

Workers didn't had control of anything so you can't prove your point that Reds ruined everything.

Well, I would agree with this person. Their economy, military, even society collapses in the end. One cannot live without a class to work too!

I'm not a communist, but for the past several pages you've been spouting untrue malarkey. It's almost spammy. If you could actually source your claims, or provide a decent argument that isn't simply "communism is bad, because reasons", I think we could have a better discussion.

[United British Union]

Well, I would agree with this person. Their economy, military, even society collapses in the end. One cannot live without a class to work too!

Source?

Your life, sir. You (if not, somebody they know,) work harder to try and achieve a better job. This occurs in all classes but the Upper-Class. If you make it all the same, then one wouldn't know what one had to work too.

[Conscentia]

Workers didn't had control of anything so you can't prove your point that Reds ruined everything.

Well, I would agree with this person. Their economy, military, even society collapses in the end. One cannot live without a class to work too!

The information in my signature disagrees.

[British Monarchist2]

You'd find yourself without a clue what to work for.

[Planet Horizon]

I personally am more of a socialist than communist. Communism is a good idea in concept, but it is always bound to fail. You can't have total equality if the government need far more power to enforce it. I think that the best idea is to combine socialism with a democratic system. Everyone is equally supported, with equal power in the government. But, in order to sustain itself, the market is still relatively free. However, it is still balanced by the fact that the richer must give more money in taxes to support the poorer who need that money.

[Nationes Pii Redivivi]

My Lord-why? Then we would loose our houses, estates, money...

Don't strawman it. We will only take away the bourgeoisie rights to exploit others.

Only, many of us are against the right of any person to exploit another.

[The Scientific States]

You'd find yourself without a clue what to work for.

Now, why would that be the case?

[The Scientific States]

I personally am more of a socialist than communist. Communism is a good idea in concept, but it is always bound to fail. You can't have total equality if the government need far more power to enforce it. I think that the best idea is to combine socialism with a democratic system. Everyone is equally supported, with equal power in the government. But, in order to sustain itself, the market is still relatively free. However, it is still balanced by the fact that the richer must give more money in taxes to support the poorer who need that money.

That's not socialism, what you're describing sounds like social democracy, which is capitalist.

[Conscentia]

Source?

Your life, sir. You (if not, somebody they know,) work harder to try and achieve a better job. This occurs in all classes but the Upper-Class. If you make it all the same, then one wouldn't know what one had to work too.

I don't want a better job - I want a stable job as a scientist. I strive to learn, not to be a parasite who feeds on the fruits of the labour of others.

[Shinpitekina]

The land was taken over by private entities at the time when there was no one to hold ownership over it through a contract legitimized by the government ruling over that land area. Of course, first there had to be the government so that any property contracts would have to be legitimate and the land protected by law as personal property of its owner. As for your post, before there was a private entity to hold ownership over land, there was no ownership over that land. Not common, not private, none. Therefore, it was not stolen from anyone because a contract validating the ownership of that land was not breached.

De facto common ownership - everyone had access to the land. Through coercion, people were excluded from land that was suddenly declared to be an individual's property.

If I have access to my friend's home, are we commonly owning it? No. It is still my friend's home and even though I could live in there if I wanted to, it is still not mine. Your 'de facto' ownership over anything means nothing.

[Good Mind]

Source?

Your life, sir. You (if not, somebody they know,) work harder to try and achieve a better job. This occurs in all classes but the Upper-Class. If you make it all the same, then one wouldn't know what one had to work too.

I Work because I need money to live not that I want a better job.

[British Monarchist2]

You'd find yourself without a clue what to work for.

Now, why would that be the case?

Your life, sir. You (if not, somebody they know,) work harder to try and achieve a better job. This occurs in all classes but the Upper-Class. If you make it all the same, then one wouldn't know what one had to work too.

[Conscentia]

You'd find yourself without a clue what to work for.

You must have a very shallow life if the only thing you can think to work towards is money & power.