Japan plans to beef up military

[Pingxiang]

I've always been hankering for a chance to go against those ChiCom bastards.

Never mind the regular forces, any invader would most likely be overwhelmed by an unstoppable swarm of Chinese kids.

Just take a look.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gfHDt_PO74w

[Indira]

A logical move in the face of recent sabre-rattling between China and Japan. Should be interesting to see how the rest of Asia takes it though, pretty sure they aren't keen on Japan either

[Immoren]

Tanks are big targets in a modern war.

Tanks have always been "big" targets.

[SuperHappySmileyWorld]

Um... correct me if I am wrong... but isn't Japan breaking a treaty here? Like the thing they signed after they unconditionally surrendered in WW2? That they wouldn't have a standing army and that the US would more or less be their military (or at least that is why I remember from it)

I mean granted we are sticking out hands up and more or less going 'Ain't our problem, bro', and this China thing seems to be escalating, but I am sure that Japans shouldn't have a military TO beef up

[Immoren]

Um... correct me if I am wrong... but isn't Japan breaking a treaty here? Like the thing they signed after they unconditionally surrendered in WW2? That they wouldn't have a standing army and that the US would more or less be their military (or at least that is why I remember from it)

I mean granted we are sticking out hands up and more or less going 'Ain't our problem, bro', and this China thing seems to be escalating, but I am sure that Japans shouldn't have a military TO beef up

They are allowed to have a defense force.

[Wolfmanne]

I wish they'd buy from Britain, really help our industry get going again. In all seriousness, sure, why the hell not? Better them than China in my opinion. They really need to be able to show they can defend their territory and not rely on the US.

[The Dragonry]

Rightfully so.
China has become legimate threat in Asia and Japan must answer. It is best for us all when Japan is in control things; because they are probably most democratic country in the Asia.

They are also one of the "most intelligent nations on the planet", which follows my motto of "I swear to God, if you put an idiot in charge I'll hurt you".

[Untaroicht]

Good for them. I was starting to get worried about how japan would fare in the event of a new korean war, which is becoming more and more possible due to the north's constant saber-rattling.

[Neo Arcad]

Japan for the win.
Though that's a short shopping list, and one that had already been established... two more destroyers isn't huge, and they were already going to buy all that other stuff. This is hardly news.

[Bobanopula]

Seems pointless, seeing how massive the Chinese army is it could just steamroll through Japan, even with this military build up.

Nice massive army yet they won't be able to produce enough food for it in wartime

[Neo Arcad]

Seems pointless, seeing how massive the Chinese army is it could just steamroll through Japan, even with this military build up.

You seem to be under the impression that the PLAN is even remotely a threat for the JMSDF, even without Seventh Fleet USN backing them up. I wish to dissuade you of this notion.

[Imperializt Russia]

Seems pointless, seeing how massive the Chinese army is it could just steamroll through Japan, even with this military build up.

You seem to be under the impression that the PLAN is even remotely a threat for the JMSDF, even without Seventh Fleet USN backing them up. I wish to dissuade you of this notion.

It is plenty a "threat".
Regardless of whether or not is has the capability to actually wrest control of the Sea of Japan or not from the Japanese and US forces in the region.

[Nation of the Genuine Peoples]

Meh; it was never socialist in the first place, nor does it even want to look to its people (wanted to bitch about this extra military expenditure having an effect on the civilians).

[Tropico Island]

Good. This means if we go to a war with China or North Korea, then they will be our strongest ally in the region.

[The Damnatius]

Yay! Good for em'

[Taoju]

Japan. Calm the fuck down.

China, stop scaring the shit out of everyone, jeebus.

Korea? Go nuts. Just don't argue with Japan. Go to your special corner.


Three countries that act like infantile little brats. Gawd. Someone should give them all a time out. Especially China for scaring the shit out of everyone every two seconds.

Children, I swear.

[Unicario]

Are you kiding me? Japan out spent the China entire 20th century after World War 2. China probably surpassed Japan only few years ago regarding military spending.

Even though they outspent china in Military spending China could still easily defeat japan. For two reasons
1. China has nuclear weapons
2. the size of the Chinese army is enormous and could probably just win through numbers alone.

Then again anything could happen.

You fail to recognize that Japan is a group of island chains. In order to effectively execute a military invasion of the Japanese Home Islands, you would need absolute naval superiority, where even in 2013, Japan has China swamped... even if China did manage to land PLA forces in Honshuu, it would be a logistics nightmare, Japan's natural resources are too ineffective to sustain a massive invasion army, and China's only way to ferry equipment and supplies over could be harassed to shit by the Japanese.

Paratroopers can't do an entire war you know

[Unicario]

Japan. Calm the fuck down.

China, stop scaring the shit out of everyone, jeebus.

Korea? Go nuts. Just don't argue with Japan. Go to your special corner.


Three countries that act like infantile little brats. Gawd. Someone should give them all a time out. Especially China for scaring the shit out of everyone every two seconds.

Children, I swear.

I thought the US *did* give Japan a time out

[Nation of the Genuine Peoples]

Japan. Calm the fuck down.

China, stop scaring the shit out of everyone, jeebus.

Korea? Go nuts. Just don't argue with Japan. Go to your special corner.


Three countries that act like infantile little brats. Gawd. Someone should give them all a time out. Especially China for scaring the shit out of everyone every two seconds.

Children, I swear.

I have more of a problem with N. Korea though; life would be painful there, and not just from starvation.

[Taoju]

Japan. Calm the fuck down.

China, stop scaring the shit out of everyone, jeebus.

Korea? Go nuts. Just don't argue with Japan. Go to your special corner.


Three countries that act like infantile little brats. Gawd. Someone should give them all a time out. Especially China for scaring the shit out of everyone every two seconds.

Children, I swear.

I thought the US *did* give Japan a time out

A time out is to a sanction or consensus while a nuke is to assault.

Let's not have another nuke fest, plz.

[Taoju]

Japan. Calm the fuck down.

China, stop scaring the shit out of everyone, jeebus.

Korea? Go nuts. Just don't argue with Japan. Go to your special corner.


Three countries that act like infantile little brats. Gawd. Someone should give them all a time out. Especially China for scaring the shit out of everyone every two seconds.

Children, I swear.

I have more of a problem with N. Korea though; life would be painful there, and not just from starvation.

North Korea is not an issue. Even the PRC isn't too too willing to support them as of late.

Politicians in East Asia are a disgrace with their childish antics over a couple of rocks in the sea and being complete asshats when it concerns former historical ties. Japan's nationalist and right wing politicians should keep their mouths closed. As well as China's military buffs. They are acting like children. Grown men. Children.

[Unicario]

I have more of a problem with N. Korea though; life would be painful there, and not just from starvation.

North Korea is not an issue. Even the PRC isn't too too willing to support them as of late.

Politicians in East Asia are a disgrace with their childish antics over a couple of rocks in the sea and being complete asshats when it concerns former historical ties. Japan's nationalist and right wing politicians should keep their mouths closed. As well as China's military buffs. They are acting like children. Grown men. Children.

The greatest issue here is that in Japan, most of the political parties are all right-wing nationalists. The only active leftist party is really the Communist Party of Japan (who are surprisingly social democrat, not Marxist), and they're pretty much marginalized by the sheer number of right-wingers.

[Taoju]

North Korea is not an issue. Even the PRC isn't too too willing to support them as of late.

Politicians in East Asia are a disgrace with their childish antics over a couple of rocks in the sea and being complete asshats when it concerns former historical ties. Japan's nationalist and right wing politicians should keep their mouths closed. As well as China's military buffs. They are acting like children. Grown men. Children.

The greatest issue here is that in Japan, most of the political parties are all right-wing nationalists. The only active leftist party is really the Communist Party of Japan (who are surprisingly social democrat, not Marxist), and they're pretty much marginalized by the sheer number of right-wingers.

I'm okay-ish with thir economic policies. But they (the old guard and right wing nationalists) need to shut up, apologize, and calm down. The PRC is not capable of a naval invasion, let alone a land invasion of Vietnam in the late 70s (major ass handing there). They are not a real threat. And warmongerers in the West are no better than the infantile group that governs Japan.

Asia needs cooperation and more dignified politicians. This talk about national pride and honor is all pure bullshit and is bogging East Asia in paranoia of the neighboring country.

Also, The Japanese Left is a joke, no offense.

Edit: I love the countries. Korea, China, and Japan. I love them. I just (deeply) hate their governments.

[Nation of the Genuine Peoples]

I have more of a problem with N. Korea though; life would be painful there, and not just from starvation.

North Korea is not an issue. Even the PRC isn't too too willing to support them as of late.

Politicians in East Asia are a disgrace with their childish antics over a couple of rocks in the sea and being complete asshats when it concerns former historical ties. Japan's nationalist and right wing politicians should keep their mouths closed. As well as China's military buffs. They are acting like children. Grown men. Children.

I think Korea deserves the extra rocks; if it's going to be better recognised internationally, people need to be able to point it out on a map or globe easily.

[Taoju]

North Korea is not an issue. Even the PRC isn't too too willing to support them as of late.

Politicians in East Asia are a disgrace with their childish antics over a couple of rocks in the sea and being complete asshats when it concerns former historical ties. Japan's nationalist and right wing politicians should keep their mouths closed. As well as China's military buffs. They are acting like children. Grown men. Children.

I think Korea deserves the extra rocks; if it's going to be better recognised internationally, people need to be able to point it out on a map or globe easily.

Why do you support this childish madness?

Korea has significant recognition. They are world players in economy, pop-culture, and the technological world. These rocks are meaningless to what really matters, or should matter, for their nation and their people.