Japan plans to beef up military

[Arglorand]

If making jokes about Americans eating burgers is suddenly anglophobia, fuck, well, it turns out I've been racist since the age of six.

Anyway, this is good. Very good. Japan's security is rather necessary in such a dangerous region, the PRC being just over a few narrow seas.

Only, neither side would want to disrupt the great trade thing they have going on.

I'm not implying there's a war likely any time soon.

I'm implying that they are hardly surrounded by friendly nations and should look to their security once in a while, because nobody knows what might happen in twenty years or so.

[Nationes Pii Redivivi]

Only, neither side would want to disrupt the great trade thing they have going on.

I'm not implying there's a war likely any time soon.

I'm implying that they are hardly surrounded by friendly nations and should look to their security once in a while, because nobody knows what might happen in twenty years or so.

Yes, because having a military would make nations around them friendlier...even South Korea, another American Suzerainty, is cooling towards Japan.

[Arglorand]

I'm not implying there's a war likely any time soon.

I'm implying that they are hardly surrounded by friendly nations and should look to their security once in a while, because nobody knows what might happen in twenty years or so.

Yes, because having a military would make nations around them friendlier...even South Korea, another American Suzerainty, is cooling towards Japan.

If the nations around them expect them to disarm entirely, then they are having unrealistic expectations.

Also, the Koreans never liked the Japanese to begin with.

[Nationes Pii Redivivi]

Yes, because having a military would make nations around them friendlier...even South Korea, another American Suzerainty, is cooling towards Japan.

If the nations around them expect them to disarm entirely, then they are having unrealistic expectations.

Also, the Koreans never liked the Japanese to begin with.

No one is expecting them to disarm entirely, not even the Chinese...people just have issues with them increasing their military, given their rather unsavoury history with Japanese militarism. Also, pissing off their allies in the region is not a wise thing to do.

[Imperializt Russia]

In five years, China will have a capable carrier force.
Within two decades, China will have a large carrier force, and likely a capable stealth aircraft fleet.

China also has ownership of long and medium range missiles launching conventional payloads which can be launched from shore or naval installations and ships.

No they fucking won't and whoever said that should be awarded with the most creative mind for the most stupid bullshit of the year. Think about it, they can barely feed their own population. They're more likely to wind up in another civil war in the near future and their currency is already showing signs of weakening through inflation despite hold a large ass asset in US debt(said debt is likely why they're weakening, since it's likely the western world will not be able to pay back it's debts with botched currency.)

The only plausible scenario I've seen where china becomes a major threat is one where China enters a civil war lasting several years where it's government emerges victorious, followed by the collapse of the US dollar ad the Yeng becomes the world's reserve currency, leading to a second great depression in the world. Afterward a neo-USSR state rises in Russia after it's government is toppled, and the middle east unites to form an islamofascist empire similar to the ottoman empire up to the 20th century. Then after 50 or so years where if these powers assist one another in developing the technology to surpass western tech by even a little, forming a military bloc/alliance, and adopting a military doctrine of exactly like Nazi Germany would these powers then be suicidally inclined to attempt a war against the rest of the motherfucking world.

Even then, the chances of victory in what would become motherfucking world war 3 pitting one half of the world against the other half would not be good. So do you get what I'm saying? I'm saying china is fucked, and we're fucked too. We have all this awesome technology and we're scared as shit of using it against one another on a large scale in the real possibility we nuke the world in the process. All we have to look forward too is dick-waving with expensive toys and proxy wars in shithole countries. Oh and I'm the goddamn Batman.

/rant.

The Chinese have refit ex-Varyag, a part-complete Kuznetsov-class Russian carrier, as the Liaoning, which is set to enter service.
China has bought from Russia, at considerable cost, a number of blueprints for Russian carrier designs and aircraft with them, as well as "aircraft carrier landing systems", speculated by some to be for training purposes. If purchased at such cost for training, and not even the construction of four "paper" carriers, it sends a clear commitment of the Chinese to the long-term aims of their carrier programme.
Military personnel have stated that China is building a number of carriers of an amphibious, low-displacement type, and Chinese military academics have made claims that China should pursue ambitions to "at least three" carriers, on the basis that Japan and India each have ambitions to three carriers, with Japan pursuing western technologies, and India also pursuing Russian technologies.

So yeah, one day, it's going to happen.

Yes. You cannot trust them after their violence in WW2.

And you can trust the British because? Oh right they never attacked anyone, or exploited natives, or betrayed allies... makes sense

The Americans did plenty of natives exploitation of their own. Don't throw that shit at us.

Your telegrams, sir.

Our Empire was just and fair. We did not rape, pillage and murder. ANyhow, this is the wrong thread.

And general is out of character.

Pretty sure he's referring to the actual British Empire.

And, you know, aside from the Henry-ing and the savagery of our reprisals to our rule, the British Empire wasn't even that bad an entity.
But, as he said, not this thread.

What do you mean?

World War 2, Pacific Theater, Aggressive Japan.

I'm saying the US will kick their ass if Japan becomes aggressive to US interest and such, not that I would support it but I can see it happen if and only if Japan actually ever gets militant towards anyone.

You're implying Japan will contravene US interests. It doesn't have the power to do so, and much like 1941, still relies heavily on imports.

One minister making an absurd gaffe (which, I'll admit, I won't bother to educate myself on the context of) is not representative of the aims of the Japanese state.

I'm kind of surprised that they intend to buy V22s, considering the protests they held when the Marines began replacing the CH46s, stationed on Okinawa, with said aircraft.

Protesting what? The actual equipment change, or the fact that a re-equipping signifies the unit being stationed for yet more years?

The V-22 is a vastly more capable aircraft than the CH-46, except at heavy-lifting.

[The UK in Exile]

Like the old saying goes: If you want war, prepare for war.

[Videssos]

Japan's clearly planning to invade the world with an army of ninja mecha-using cyborg shinigami magical girl lolis.

[Chevrro]

Like the old saying goes: If you want war, prepare for war.

Maybe it was more like "If you want peace, prepare for war."?

[Novia Soviet Socialist Republic]

Japan's clearly planning to invade the world with an army of ninja mecha-using cyborg shinigami magical girl lolis.

God damn it! They aren't the Empire of the Rising Sun!...wait....never mind, that's more of an Anime reference >_>

[Demonuist St Anthonys]

Well, after China destroys the world, at least Japan will have a few soldiers! *Doesn't mention Russia, Canada, Switzerland, or All of Europe.*

[The UK in Exile]

Like the old saying goes: If you want war, prepare for war.

Maybe it was more like "If you want peace, prepare for war."?

Nah, mine makes much more sense.

[Occupied Deutschland]

Japan's clearly planning to invade the world with an army of ninja mecha-using cyborg shinigami magical girl lolis.

Well, when you put things that way...
Hail to the God-king baby.

[The Grand World Order]

Holy shit bro, seven warships, thirty-five aircraft and enough amphibious vehicles to furnish a battalion.

Stop the presses, someone get China to duck and cover.

My god. So force.

that's a pretty damn big battalion, bruh. That's like three times the size of a MEU in terms of amtracks.

Anyways, the more Japan spends, the less we (the US) have to.

[Hathradic States]

Good. They can't count on the US if China starts shit with them, and they are the only Asian nation that will be able to properly stand against China for any amount of time (not counting India or Russia)

World War III,

China, North Korea?

Japan, America

We wouldn't help. We can't afford a war with China.

[-The Unified Earth Governments-]

Japan's clearly planning to invade the world with an army of ninja mecha-using cyborg shinigami magical girl lolis.

Meh, just bring back the Popeye Cartoons and they run away in fear.

Fuckign Japan, still can't beat the US in wanking their cartoons to a high degree.

Plus I heard they don't like Spinach.

[Rothschild]

Good. Japan, Thailand, South Korea, RoC, and all our other allies in the Far East will need strong military's if we're going to keep the dragon at bay. If there is going to be a 2nd Cold War, it's going to end like the first one.

I can imagine a proper successor to SEATO being formed by Japan, Korea and Taiwan with US, ANZAC and UK influence and eyes in the background. If an Oriental Cold War ends unlike the outcome of the last one being Germany united, it could end with Tibet and Hong Kong gaining independence. OR it could end extremely messy. Who knows.

[Occupied Deutschland]

World War III,

China, North Korea?

Japan, America

We wouldn't help. We can't afford a war with China.

Not officially maybe.
I could form a new First American Volunteer Group. Only, y'know, this time we'd be fighting against China with Japan rather than the other way around.

I've always been hankering for a chance to go against those ChiCom bastards.

[Hathradic States]

We wouldn't help. We can't afford a war with China.

Not officially maybe.
I could form a new First American Volunteer Group. Only, y'know, this time we'd be fighting against China with Japan rather than the other way around.

I've always been hankering for a chance to go against those ChiCom bastards.

I'd volunteer in a heartbeat. If I can't join the real Army, I'll join the ones actually fighting the commie bastards.

[Novia Soviet Socialist Republic]

Not officially maybe.
I could form a new First American Volunteer Group. Only, y'know, this time we'd be fighting against China with Japan rather than the other way around.

I've always been hankering for a chance to go against those ChiCom bastards.

I'd volunteer in a heartbeat. If I can't join the real Army, I'll join the ones actually fighting the commie bastards.

Are ya sure? It would be a damn onslaught. I don't think your fiancee would appreciate you being killed by a Chinese Artillery Barrage.

[Hathradic States]

I'd volunteer in a heartbeat. If I can't join the real Army, I'll join the ones actually fighting the commie bastards.

Are ya sure? It would be a damn onslaught. I don't think your fiancee would appreciate you being killed by a Chinese Artillery Barrage.

I'd survive. I am a firm believe in the theory that you exist in whatever reality you would have survived in.

[Novia Soviet Socialist Republic]

Are ya sure? It would be a damn onslaught. I don't think your fiancee would appreciate you being killed by a Chinese Artillery Barrage.

I'd survive. I am a firm believe in the theory that you exist in whatever reality you would have survived in.

But you would be dead in this reality >_>

Do the smart thing, join the Armored Division. We have tanks

[Hathradic States]

I'd survive. I am a firm believe in the theory that you exist in whatever reality you would have survived in.

But you would be dead in this reality >_>

Do the smart thing, join the Armored Division. We have tanks

Yet the reality I continue in would be the one I perceive.

Tanks are big targets in a modern war.

[European Socialist Republic]

Not officially maybe.
I could form a new First American Volunteer Group. Only, y'know, this time we'd be fighting against China with Japan rather than the other way around.

I've always been hankering for a chance to go against those ChiCom bastards.

I'd volunteer in a heartbeat. If I can't join the real Army, I'll join the ones actually fighting the commie bastards.

Good luck facing these guys.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHZIUdHm6b4
1:08 It hurts my eyes!
3:46 No one can stand against these!

[The Tundra]

Considering Japan is almost an autonomous vassal of America, we really don't have anything to fear.

The Red Dragon, however, should be rightfully suspicious, because Japan and Taiwan will be two staging grounds of America if we ever actually go to war with China.

[Novia Soviet Socialist Republic]

But you would be dead in this reality >_>

Do the smart thing, join the Armored Division. We have tanks

Yet the reality I continue in would be the one I perceive.

Tanks are big targets in a modern war.

Only thing British and American Tank Crewmen should be worried about are artillery, airstrikes and the possibility that the enemy may have some sort of anti tank weapon that can strike your tank from above. There aren't many other tanks that can go toe to toe with a Challenger 2 or an M1 Abrams.

Infantrymen worry about everything else.

I'd volunteer in a heartbeat. If I can't join the real Army, I'll join the ones actually fighting the commie bastards.

Good luck facing these guys.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OHZIUdHm6b4
1:08 It hurts my eyes!
3:46 No one can stand against these!

Any army can be made to look badass with some epic music behind them. Besides, that's just the Chinese army marching around for the majority of the video.