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Postby United British Union » Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:17 am

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United British Union wrote:It is rather horrific-we all do know what happened last time the Japanese built up their military. It is highly-possible they are not doing it for protection as they often tell the world, but are preparing to annex Asia once more.

Yeah... China wasn't a superpower back then, and there are these things called nukes that make global war pretty hard nowadays.

Yes-we know who they are going to aim their Atomic Weapons at after the War, do we not, sir?

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Postby Pragia » Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:18 am

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Pragia wrote:Yeah... China wasn't a superpower back then, and there are these things called nukes that make global war pretty hard nowadays.

Yes-we know who they are going to aim their Atomic Weapons at after the War, do we not, sir?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Japan does not have nuclear weapons. Also they aren't the Empire of Japan anymore, and no crazy emperor at the helm

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Postby Novo Portugal » Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:19 am

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seriously?

Yes. You cannot trust them after their violence in WW2.


And you can trust the British because? Oh right they never attacked anyone, or exploited natives, or betrayed allies... makes sense
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Postby United British Union » Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:20 am

Novo Portugal wrote:
United British Union wrote:Yes. You cannot trust them after their violence in WW2.


And you can trust the British because? Oh right they never attacked anyone, or exploited natives, or betrayed allies... makes sense

You can trust us, as we are a peaceful nation.

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Postby United British Union » Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:21 am

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United British Union wrote:Yes-we know who they are going to aim their Atomic Weapons at after the War, do we not, sir?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Japan does not have nuclear weapons. Also they aren't the Empire of Japan anymore, and no crazy emperor at the helm

It will, if it 'Beef up military.'

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Postby Novia Soviet Socialist Republic » Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:21 am

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Novo Portugal wrote:
And you can trust the British because? Oh right they never attacked anyone, or exploited natives, or betrayed allies... makes sense

You can trust us, as we are a peaceful nation.


No we aren't.
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Postby Pragia » Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:21 am

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Pragia wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong, but Japan does not have nuclear weapons. Also they aren't the Empire of Japan anymore, and no crazy emperor at the helm

It will, if it 'Beef up military.'

... I didn't see minuteman missiles on their shopping list, did you?

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Postby Novo Portugal » Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:21 am

United British Union wrote:You can trust us, as we are a peaceful nation.


Now, you weren't in the past, using your argument no one should trust in Britain.
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Postby Vamtrl » Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:22 am

United British Union wrote:
Novo Portugal wrote:
And you can trust the British because? Oh right they never attacked anyone, or exploited natives, or betrayed allies... makes sense

You can trust us, as we are a peaceful nation.


That once spanned the globe by offering flowers and being pleasant. Get real.

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Postby United British Union » Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:22 am

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United British Union wrote:You can trust us, as we are a peaceful nation.


No we aren't.

That is treason, sir. Insulting your own nation!
Anyhow, we have done all modern warfare in support of peace, sir. Including the war with Japan.

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Postby Pingxiang » Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:23 am

:palm:

It seems not many here have an idea of what is really going on in the region or what the nations of the region see has being in there interest.

The Japanese govt. seems so desperate in trying to get everyone to forget about that Fujishima fiasco which is not under control even though they insist it is. Even local Japanese citizens know better. So they say they will be beefing up there military since they feel threatened by China which only claims what belongs to them which is the Daiyou islands.

So how will South Korea react to this buildup. After all Japan is in dispute with SK. over some islands. Yes, SK. might work with Japan but in the end they do not trust them. Generally, both Korean govts. do not trust foreign govts. since much of there problems has resulted from foreign nations forcing themselves upon Korea.

And how will Russia react. Japan claims three of the Russian Kuril islands. You did hear that the US is worried about Russian moving some defense missiles near the Polish and Lithuanian border. Chances are the Russians would do the same in the Kuril islands if the Japanese military got too big.

https://www.graphicnews.org/pages/en/31 ... deployment

When it comes to the Philippines. The US made sure the Philippines was not industrialized but instead left to supply Japanese industry with raw materials. If not, the Philippines would today be a major regional power.

http://www.pinoyexchange.com/forums/sho ... p?t=425057

And China has been diversifing which means they are making sure they do not rely on one nation for all there trade. The new govt. in power has plans to allow more foreign investment. And the economy is to be better controlled. They want to make sure a steady and not too large a growth rate is maintained. Seems in the long run this is better for the economy.

Today, mainland China is just about impregnable to air attack. Even war strategy people in the US have admitted that a war on the Chinese mainland would be disasterous.

So for any warmongers still around, take a look at this. Just the first few minutes. Its a US military film.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MxAUa8y9mV8
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Postby United British Union » Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:23 am

Vamtrl wrote:
United British Union wrote:You can trust us, as we are a peaceful nation.


That once spanned the globe by offering flowers and being pleasant. Get real.

We still do, rather.

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Postby Occupied Deutschland » Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:24 am

United British Union wrote:
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seriously?

Yes. You cannot trust them after their violence in WW2.

Better dead than red.
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Frankly, if this precipitates Japanese imperialism, I'll eat my hat and then begin screaming 'Tenno Heika Banzai' from my roof.
Which is to say: This isn't going to precipitate Japanese imperialism and fears it will are misguided to say the least.
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Japan/USA vs China/North Korea?

Postby ImperiallJapan » Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:24 am

If China and N. Korea decide to start a conflict, the Japanese need to be ready to respond on their own account.
For years, the USA has been a close ally of Japan, and I think they should trust them more. We do not need to control their country anymore.
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Postby Vamtrl » Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:24 am

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Vamtrl wrote:
That once spanned the globe by offering flowers and being pleasant. Get real.

We still do, rather.


Hah, troll.

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Postby Norstal » Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:25 am

Pragia wrote:
United British Union wrote:Yes-we know who they are going to aim their Atomic Weapons at after the War, do we not, sir?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but Japan does not have nuclear weapons. Also they aren't the Empire of Japan anymore, and no crazy emperor at the helm

They don't have nuclear weapons, but they do have a crazy prime minister at the helm.
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Postby Novia Soviet Socialist Republic » Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:25 am

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No we aren't.

That is treason, sir. Insulting your own nation!
Anyhow, we have done all modern warfare in support of peace, sir. Including the war with Japan.


Oh you did not just call me sir. Should never call an NCO, sir.

Anyway, Japan is probably one of the most peaceful countries on the planet at the moment. I doubt they would go all imperialist again. They would break their constitution.
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Postby Novo Portugal » Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:26 am

United British Union wrote:
Novia Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
No we aren't.

That is treason, sir. Insulting your own nation!
Anyhow, we have done all modern warfare in support of peace, sir. Including the war with Japan.


Modern as in "since we stopped beating everyone to form a Empire"? Britain forged its empire with blood, treason and by seal clubbing tribes. Should we trust you then? Japan made very bad things in WW2 but why the hell does that mean they will attack everyone now? Japanese people evolved so did their leaders...
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Postby Imperial Nilfgaard » Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:27 am

Fine with me. Japan has as much a right to a formidable military as anyone else.
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Postby Immoren » Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:29 am

Norstal wrote:
Pragia wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong, but Japan does not have nuclear weapons. Also they aren't the Empire of Japan anymore, and no crazy emperor at the helm

They don't have nuclear weapons, but they do have a crazy prime minister at the helm.


Obviously everyone knows that crazy prime ministers at the helm are completely harmelss.
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Postby The High Guardians » Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:30 am

I see it as fine. Unless they somehow surpass Murica's military spending. I don't see room for anyone to complain.

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Postby United British Union » Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:30 am

Novo Portugal wrote:
United British Union wrote:That is treason, sir. Insulting your own nation!
Anyhow, we have done all modern warfare in support of peace, sir. Including the war with Japan.


Modern as in "since we stopped beating everyone to form a Empire"? Britain forged its empire with blood, treason and by seal clubbing tribes. Should we trust you then? Japan made very bad things in WW2 but why the hell does that mean they will attack everyone now? Japanese people evolved so did their leaders...

Your telegrams, sir.

Our Empire was just and fair. We did not rape, pillage and murder. ANyhow, this is the wrong thread.

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Postby Immoren » Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:31 am

United British Union wrote:
Novo Portugal wrote:
Modern as in "since we stopped beating everyone to form a Empire"? Britain forged its empire with blood, treason and by seal clubbing tribes. Should we trust you then? Japan made very bad things in WW2 but why the hell does that mean they will attack everyone now? Japanese people evolved so did their leaders...

Your telegrams, sir.

Our Empire was just and fair. We did not rape, pillage and murder. ANyhow, this is the wrong thread.

And general is out of character.
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discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there

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Postby Novo Portugal » Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:32 am

United British Union wrote:Our Empire was just and fair. We did not rape, pillage and murder. ANyhow, this is the wrong thread.

:roll:
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Postby Pingxiang » Tue Dec 17, 2013 10:34 am

Norstal wrote:
Pragia wrote:Correct me if I'm wrong, but Japan does not have nuclear weapons. Also they aren't the Empire of Japan anymore, and no crazy emperor at the helm

They don't have nuclear weapons, but they do have a crazy prime minister at the helm.


The US after the war, unlike German, did not really weed out all the right wing warmongering military and industrialists in Japan. Instead, they put them to use since they saw the Soviets has the biggest threat. Since they were never really weeded out they have always been there influencing Japanese policy. And in time they have gotten stronger.

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