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Postby Risottia » Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:06 am

The New Lowlands wrote:Wait, so the rankings are what;
1. China, 2. Japan, 3. America?


I'd say
1.USA
2.Russia
3.China
4.Japan

Because, you know, you can move ships.
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Postby Liriena » Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:07 am

You know, I'm actually kinda looking forward to this. The Pacific needs somebody close by that can keep China and North Korea on a tight military leash. Mind you, the pacifist in me is kinda concerned, but on the other hand...
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Postby The New Lowlands » Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:07 am

Risottia wrote:
The New Lowlands wrote:Wait, so the rankings are what;
1. China, 2. Japan, 3. America?


I'd say
1.USA
2.Russia
3.China
4.Japan

Because, you know, you can move ships.

Yeah, but Russia's pacific-based fleet is small, and AFAIK they don't have teleporters, which kind of matters in case of a conflict.

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Postby Novia Soviet Socialist Republic » Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:09 am

Liriena wrote:You know, I'm actually kinda looking forward to this. The Pacific needs somebody close by that can keep China and North Korea on a tight military leash. Mind you, the pacifist in me is kinda concerned, but on the other hand...


We've already been over this and we are pretty sure George Takei will not take over as emperor and turn Japan into the Empire of the Rising Sun :p
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Postby Chevrro » Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:09 am

Novo Portugal wrote:
Chevrro wrote:US and EU has made some reforms since last crisis. China is depending mostly on export and they have pretty much planned economy. China will take bigger hit but US and EU can live trough it.


Actually planned economies tend to survive better to capitalist crisis.


Planned economies tend to have deficit by default. They can't function.
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Postby Novo Portugal » Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:10 am

Novia Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:We've already been over this and we are pretty sure George Takei will not take over as emperor and turn Japan into the Empire of the Rising Sun :p


I still think that George Takei is THE EMPEROR!!!
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Postby Vamtrl » Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:10 am

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Their Pacific Fleet is small compared to Japan but they have 10 active nuclear submarines so I dunno either.

Wait, so the rankings are what;
1. China, 2. Japan, 3. America?


No idea, what the Americans have active in the east sea. :blink:

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Liriena wrote:You know, I'm actually kinda looking forward to this. The Pacific needs somebody close by that can keep China and North Korea on a tight military leash. Mind you, the pacifist in me is kinda concerned, but on the other hand...


We've already been over this and we are pretty sure George Takei will not take over as emperor and turn Japan into the Empire of the Rising Sun :p

Yes. Because Ken Watanabe will.
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Postby Novo Portugal » Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:11 am

Chevrro wrote:Planned economies tend to have deficit by default. They can't function.

Depends on how planned or centralized it is.
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Postby Liriena » Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:12 am

Nabeshima wrote:
Novia Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
We've already been over this and we are pretty sure George Takei will not take over as emperor and turn Japan into the Empire of the Rising Sun :p

Yes. Because Ken Watanabe will.

I have no problem with this. :lol:
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Postby Chevrro » Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:12 am

Novo Portugal wrote:
Chevrro wrote:Planned economies tend to have deficit by default. They can't function.

Depends on how planned or centralized it is.


China's economy is very planned and centralized. Don't let them fool you.
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Postby Novo Portugal » Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:13 am

Nabeshima wrote:
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We've already been over this and we are pretty sure George Takei will not take over as emperor and turn Japan into the Empire of the Rising Sun :p

Yes. Because Ken Watanabe will.


Still mad that in The Last Samurai the Emperor sounded so weirdly weak and with a girly voice
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Postby The Liberated Territories » Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:13 am

What a remarkable turn of events.

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Postby Nabeshima » Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:13 am

Novo Portugal wrote:
Nabeshima wrote:Yes. Because Ken Watanabe will.


Still mad that in The Last Samurai the Emperor sounded so weirdly weak and with a girly voice
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It was an American movie about Japanese culture. Were you honestly expecting anything better?
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Postby Novo Portugal » Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:13 am

Chevrro wrote:China's economy is very planned and centralized. Don't let them fool you.

Meh, it tends to decentralize itself with the years.
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Novo Portugal wrote:
Chevrro wrote:China's economy is very planned and centralized. Don't let them fool you.

Meh, it tends to decentralize itself with the years.


Tends... It has been more centralized in the last few years than it was before. Party officials want to stay close where the money is.
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Postby Arlenton » Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:15 am

Good for them.

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Nabeshima wrote:It was an American movie about Japanese culture. Were you honestly expecting anything better?

Hey, you guys opened the door when you made Godzilla.
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Postby Imperializt Russia » Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:16 am

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Even though they outspent china in Military spending China could still easily defeat japan. For two reasons
1. China has nuclear weapons
2. the size of the Chinese army is enormous and could probably just win through numbers alone.

Then again anything could happen.


Nuclear weaponry is somewhat the trump card, but if the fighting occurs outside the home nations it may not be used.
For instance, if the battle were over Taiwan I expect we wouldn't see nuclear weapory launched.

Both nations would simply try to force the others out, then lock down the island.

China won't want to risk wider war with nuclear attack on Japan, and China also wont want to nuke taiwan.

Just like America would not be able to fight China well on Chinese soil, similar limitations may befall the Chinese in Japan. Though a rapid strike and push would also force the American heavier assets out of the region.
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Postby Czechanada » Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:17 am

Japan has the ultimate weapon in this case. They can just transmit endless streams of Gundam Wing to China's telecommunications and they will be too entranced to do anything.
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Postby Novia Soviet Socialist Republic » Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:17 am

Nabeshima wrote:
Novia Soviet Socialist Republic wrote:
We've already been over this and we are pretty sure George Takei will not take over as emperor and turn Japan into the Empire of the Rising Sun :p

Yes. Because Ken Watanabe will.


He won't order the production of giant robot Samurai's that fire lasers out of their eyes. He's less scary.
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Postby Novo Portugal » Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:17 am

Chevrro wrote:
Novo Portugal wrote:Meh, it tends to decentralize itself with the years.


Tends... It has been more centralized in the last few years than it was before. Party officials want to stay close where the money is.


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Postby Vamtrl » Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:18 am

Vamtrl wrote:
The New Lowlands wrote:Wait, so the rankings are what;
1. China, 2. Japan, 3. America?


No idea, what the Americans have active in the east sea. :blink:


I just looked at all the bases they have in that neck of the woods. I would say 3rd sounds good in terms of size, dunno about their tech advantage though.

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Postby Nabeshima » Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:19 am

Novo Portugal wrote:Hey, you guys opened the door when you made Godzilla.

Godzilla didn't have a girly voice. She had ion-plasma breath.

But I digress. Let's not threadjack. ^_^
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Postby Arumdaum » Tue Dec 17, 2013 9:20 am

Singpu wrote:So what, japan can't legally declare war. Their constitution gave up that right.

As for most democratic nation in Asia stuff, I'll refer you to the phillipines,

SK and Japan both beat it in the Democracy Index so mehhhh
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