Japan plans to beef up military

[Vamtrl]

Given the USA's shift towards the Pacific, what's the point? They can take care of any possible problems.

Best to rely on yourself than others. Maybe one day some people here may be correct and the US will not help Japan.

Japan already had the second largest Navy in the region without these plans. They can take care of themselves.

[Divair]

Given the USA's shift towards the Pacific, what's the point? They can take care of any possible problems.

Best to rely on yourself than others. Maybe one day some people here may be correct and the US will not help Japan.

Not happening in the foreseeable future, so no problem.

[The IASM]

Don't by the f-35 Japan, don't do it!

[King Kuppa I]

gundams ftw

[Vallend (Ancient)]

Seems pointless, seeing how massive the Chinese army is it could just steamroll through Japan, even with this military build up.

Really?
The Chinese army is ill-trained and it would take massive casualties to occupy Japan, haha.

[Chevrro]

But China will be first one to fall. China economy doesn't have great outlook either so their military spending is going to fall soon. China has been greatly overproducing and creating massive bubble in machinery (cars and stuff) and real estate. China has completed all requirements for Great Depression.

So? China falls and the whole world will fall, economically speaking. Then all becomes a shithole, and all that happened before WW2 thanks to the great depression will happen again. All of this has nothing to do with China's military power.

If China's economy will suffer severly they can't afford these ambitious modernization programs. Isn't it logical?

Then Japan will be superior.

[European Socialist Republic]

I see the problem, it's just that our leadership simply does not care.

So I wonder who's selling Japan this new military hardware for their defense and is deploying naval units and aircraft in defiance of China's illegal air defense zone...

China?

[The New Lowlands]

Woo, yay, two countries getting ready to kill each other.

[Risottia]

Best to rely on yourself than others. Maybe one day some people here may be correct and the US will not help Japan.

Japan already had the second largest Navy in the region without these plans.

Dunno.

[Divair]

So? China falls and the whole world will fall, economically speaking. Then all becomes a shithole, and all that happened before WW2 thanks to the great depression will happen again. All of this has nothing to do with China's military power.

If China's economy will suffer severly they can't afford these ambitious modernization programs. Isn't it logical?

Then Japan will be superior.

If China's economy collapses, everyone goes with it. Japan included.

[Chevrro]

So I wonder who's selling Japan this new military hardware for their defense and is deploying naval units and aircraft in defiance of China's illegal air defense zone...

China?

Actually Japan itself. They usually buy licenses from Western countries and then produce equipment locally. But it isn't the case always.

[Risottia]

Don't by the f-35 Japan, don't do it!

BUY IT JAPAN!

So it will cost us less to dump that shitty program!

[Novo Portugal]

If China's economy will suffer severly they can't afford these ambitious modernization programs. Isn't it logical?
Then Japan will be superior.

Who knows? Maybe Japan would sell the military gear to pay its debts.

[Sabara]

If China's economy will suffer severly they can't afford these ambitious modernization programs. Isn't it logical?

Then Japan will be superior.

If China's economy collapses, everyone goes with it. Japan included.

And if Japan's economy collapses, everyone also goes with it. China included.

[Divair]

If China's economy collapses, everyone goes with it. Japan included.

And if Japan's economy collapses, everyone also goes with it. China included.

That goes without saying.

[The New Lowlands]

If China's economy collapses, everyone goes with it. Japan included.

And if Japan's economy collapses, everyone also goes with it. China included.

Not as much, though.

[Chevrro]

If China's economy will suffer severly they can't afford these ambitious modernization programs. Isn't it logical?

Then Japan will be superior.

If China's economy collapses, everyone goes with it. Japan included.

US and EU has made some reforms since last crisis. China is depending mostly on export and they have pretty much planned economy. China will take bigger hit but US and EU can live trough it.

[Novo Portugal]

US and EU has made some reforms since last crisis. China is depending mostly on export and they have pretty much planned economy. China will take bigger hit but US and EU can live trough it.

Actually planned economies tend to survive better to capitalist crisis.

[Divair]

If China's economy collapses, everyone goes with it. Japan included.

US and EU has made some reforms since last crisis. China is depending mostly on export and they have pretty much planned economy. China will take bigger hit but US and EU can live trough it.

Everyone will live through it, but no economy will avoid a depression, or recession, if China collapses. They're the 2nd largest economy, they invest huge amounts in the 3rd world, and they make almost everything the 1st world consumes.

[Vamtrl]

Japan already had the second largest Navy in the region without these plans.

Dunno.

Their Pacific Fleet is small compared to Japan but they have 10 active nuclear submarines so I dunno either.

[Novo Portugal]

US and EU has made some reforms since last crisis. China is depending mostly on export and they have pretty much planned economy. China will take bigger hit but US and EU can live trough it.

Everyone will live through it, but no economy will avoid a depression, or recession, if China collapses. They're the 2nd largest economy, they invest huge amounts in the 3rd world, and they make almost everything the 1st world consumes.

And they also have major investments in the more developed countries.

[The New Lowlands]

Dunno.

Their Pacific Fleet is small compared to Japan but they have 10 active nuclear submarines so I dunno either.

Wait, so the rankings are what;
1. China, 2. Japan, 3. America?

[GWACA]

I see the problem, it's just that our leadership simply does not care.

The US has bases in Japan, South Korea and maybe once again in the Philippines. They care.

We really don't I mean the people (for the most part) don't even care, our government definitely doesn't.

[GWACA]

US and EU has made some reforms since last crisis. China is depending mostly on export and they have pretty much planned economy. China will take bigger hit but US and EU can live trough it.

Actually planned economies tend to survive better to capitalist crisis.

They can react quickly to change but other than that, they suck.

[Novia Soviet Socialist Republic]

The US has bases in Japan, South Korea and maybe once again in the Philippines. They care.

We really don't I mean the people (for the most part) don't even care, our government definitely doesn't.

I think the US Government would care if China attacked US bases abroad. They probably wouldn't like that.