Canada Post to phase out home delivery services

[Hardened Pyrokinetics]

Enjoy not getting your mail then.

Fucking Conservatives, that's all I gotta say about this.

1.) I don't live in a rural area in Canada anymore. It doesn't affect me.

2.) The system had already been addressed.

3.) If that last response been because of me, then I'd tell you I am not conservative in the slightest.

1. And clearly, if it doesn't affect you it isn't an issue.
2. If by "addressed" you mean "fuck those people", you are correct.
3. No, it wasn't, but thank you for assuming everything is about you. Stay in America, we don't want you up here.

[Dyakovo]

Source

After losses by the crown orporation, Canada Post is going to stop door-to-door deliver and use community mailboxes instead. This and other measures will hopefully save money to make Canada Post financially independent of taxpayer's money:

Forecasted financial benefits (per year upon full implementation)

Community mailboxes – $400 million to $500 million

New approach to pricing Lettermail – $160 million to $200 million

Franchise post offices – $40 million to $50 million

Streamlining operations -$100 million to $150 million

Now that's nice, except that they did not consider the elderly and people with limited mobility. In an article by the CBC, there are 4,800 incidents involving community mailbox.

What do you think, NSG?

For more info, watch this video.

What a horrible idea.

[Nationalist Eminral Republic]

This is great news in my ears. Taxes are one reason part of my family lives in the states. It just isn't worth to burden the taxpayer with a government corporation that is ineffective and bureaucratic.

No, I like getting mails, thank you very much. You live in the states, so you have no idea how important postal service is. If my tax will go to services like the postal service, I wouldn't mind it at all. But if it'll go to paying 105 people for doing nothing then no.

[Geilinor]

This is great news in my ears. Taxes are one reason part of my family lives in the states. It just isn't worth to burden the taxpayer with a government corporation that is ineffective and bureaucratic.

USPS is a government corporation as well, Canada Post isn't why you pay more taxes. You pay more taxes because you have more social welfare programs and have universal healthcare. There also isn't as much social conservatism, there are more individual rights, the education system has a higher ranking, etc.

[Dazchan]

According to the video, two thirds of Canadians already use community mailboxes. Why wait until now to be indignant?

[Nationalist Eminral Republic]

According to the video, two thirds of Canadians already use community mailboxes. Why wait until now to be indignant?

Two-thirds? Urban communities use door-to-door deliveries, and most people live in urban communities.

[Dazchan]

According to the video, two thirds of Canadians already use community mailboxes. Why wait until now to be indignant?

Two-thirds? Urban communities use door-to-door deliveries, and most people live in urban communities.

Are you doubting the validity of your own source?

[Nationalist Eminral Republic]

Two-thirds? Urban communities use door-to-door deliveries, and most people live in urban communities.

Are you doubting the validity of your own source?

tl;dr

As I said before, Canada Post did not address the concerns of the people, like the security of community mailboxes and persons with limited mobility. Although I hope Canada post can provide more information about this.

[Fascist Russian Empire]

If it is more efficient and saves money, then by all means do it.

[Dazchan]

Are you doubting the validity of your own source?

tl;dr

It was the second paragraph of your article, and two minutes into your video. How can you honestly claim that you didn't read/watch that far?

As I said before, Canada Post did not address the concerns of the people, like the security of community mailboxes and persons with limited mobility.

They look pretty secure to me. Then again, I actually read the sources.

As for people with limited mobility, I wonder what the two thirds of households who already use these do to address this problem?

[Nationalist Eminral Republic]

tl;dr

It was the second paragraph of your article, and two minutes into your video. Exactly how short is your attention span?

As I said before, Canada Post did not address the concerns of the people, like the security of community mailboxes and persons with limited mobility.

They look pretty secure to me. Then again, I actually read the sources.

As for people with limited mobility, I wonder what the two thirds of households who already use these do to address this problem?

I have very short attention span.

As for the security, there are 4,000 incidents regarding the boxes, ranging from vandalism and arson to mail theft. I don't think that's secure.

[The Liberated Territories]

1.) I don't live in a rural area in Canada anymore. It doesn't affect me.

2.) The system had already been addressed.

3.) If that last response been because of me, then I'd tell you I am not conservative in the slightest.

1. And clearly, if it doesn't affect you it isn't an issue.
2. If by "addressed" you mean "fuck those people", you are correct.
3. No, it wasn't, but thank you for assuming everything is about you. Stay in America, we don't want you up here.

1.) Yes

2.) Agreed

3.) You too. Unfortunately I am Canadian born so I can return any time I like, at no ones behest.

[The Liberated Territories]

This is great news in my ears. Taxes are one reason part of my family lives in the states. It just isn't worth to burden the taxpayer with a government corporation that is ineffective and bureaucratic.

USPS is a government corporation as well, Canada Post isn't why you pay more taxes. You pay more taxes because you have more social welfare programs and have universal healthcare. There also isn't as much social conservatism, there are more individual rights, the education system has a higher ranking, etc.

And yet my father could not make any money until he moved to the states. But hey, at least he had free healthcare *waitinginlineforver*

The education system matters less if you try to educate yourself. Such a failure I am, however.

[Souseiseki]

USPS is a government corporation as well, Canada Post isn't why you pay more taxes. You pay more taxes because you have more social welfare programs and have universal healthcare. There also isn't as much social conservatism, there are more individual rights, the education system has a higher ranking, etc.

And yet my father could not make any money until he moved to the states. But hey, at least he had free healthcare *waitinginlineforver*

The education system matters less if you try to educate yourself.

yes, free healthcare is pretty good *theunitedsttesonlyoutdoescanadanandtheukonthignslikeelectivesurgerywhichbydefinitionarenotlifecriticalanditsbettertobeinlinethanbeunabletoaffordshitalsoiamfarilysrueyouhaveadistoted,incorrectandpropagandisticviewofcanadainwaittimes*

and yeah lol no that's in no way a decent response to claims about the education system sorry

[Oneracon]

It's a terrible idea, if they want to reduce costs (since delivering to community mail boxes cost Canada Post Corporation half as much as daily home delivery) then just reduce the number of days with mail delivery.

It would provide a minimal disruption to those who would be unable to use community mailboxes (i.e. seniors, disable people) while still meeting CPC's need to cut costs.

[The Liberated Territories]

And yet my father could not make any money until he moved to the states. But hey, at least he had free healthcare *waitinginlineforver*

The education system matters less if you try to educate yourself.

yes, free healthcare is pretty good *theunitedsttesonlyoutdoescanadanandtheukonthignslikeelectivesurgerywhichbydefinitionarenotlifecriticalanditsbettertobeinlinethanbeunabletoaffordshitalsoiamfarilysrueyouhaveadistoted,incorrectandpropagandisticviewofcanadainwaittimes*

and yeah lol no that's in no way a decent response to claims about the education system sorry

Yeah, no it isn't. Why should we help other people if it involves sacrificing a bit...

Same with education. Or anything really.

[Hardened Pyrokinetics]

1. And clearly, if it doesn't affect you it isn't an issue.
2. If by "addressed" you mean "fuck those people", you are correct.
3. No, it wasn't, but thank you for assuming everything is about you. Stay in America, we don't want you up here.

1.) Yes

2.) Agreed

3.) You too. Unfortunately I am Canadian born so I can return any time I like, at no ones behest.

Congrats, you just proved that your view on this issue is entirely selfish and not in the interest of anybody but yourself.

Or, in other words, you've just removed yourself entirely from this debate.

[Souseiseki]

yes, free healthcare is pretty good *theunitedsttesonlyoutdoescanadanandtheukonthignslikeelectivesurgerywhichbydefinitionarenotlifecriticalanditsbettertobeinlinethanbeunabletoaffordshitalsoiamfarilysrueyouhaveadistoted,incorrectandpropagandisticviewofcanadainwaittimes*

and yeah lol no that's in no way a decent response to claims about the education system sorry

Yeah, no it isn't. Why should we help other people if it involves sacrificing a bit...

Same with education. Or anything really.

actually, it is. we should help other people because that is how society works. and while you probably love to think you would, you would not be able to survive or thrive without society, which despite popular libertarian opinion you are free to leave at any time. and yeah that line of thinking is borderline sociopathic.

[Oneracon]

Yeah, no it isn't. Why should we help other people if it involves sacrificing a bit...

Basic human decency? Better functioning society?

[The Liberated Territories]

1.) Yes

2.) Agreed

3.) You too. Unfortunately I am Canadian born so I can return any time I like, at no ones behest.

Congrats, you just proved that your view on this issue is entirely selfish and not in the interest of anybody but yourself.

Or, in other words, you've just removed yourself entirely from this debate.

Where has anybody but a few close people helped me? How can I empathize with a stranger whose intentions can be anything? There is no logic in altruism.

Hypocrite!

[Nationalist Eminral Republic]

yes, free healthcare is pretty good *theunitedsttesonlyoutdoescanadanandtheukonthignslikeelectivesurgerywhichbydefinitionarenotlifecriticalanditsbettertobeinlinethanbeunabletoaffordshitalsoiamfarilysrueyouhaveadistoted,incorrectandpropagandisticviewofcanadainwaittimes*

and yeah lol no that's in no way a decent response to claims about the education system sorry

Yeah, no it isn't. Why should we help other people if it involves sacrificing a bit...

Same with education. Or anything really.

I'd love if libertarians will stop paying taxes, and government will stop providing them services. Let's see how they'll react if there's no police to respond when they're in trouble, no ambulance to tend if they have emergency, no firemen if they're house is burning, no military to protect them from war.

Humans cannot stand on their own alone. At one point in our life, we'll need to cooperate for the betterment of ourselves and the community.

[Oneracon]

Where has anybody but a few close people helped me? How can I empathize with a stranger whose intentions can be anything? There is no logic in altruism.

I can see where the issues with Canadian society come from.

[The Liberated Territories]

Yeah, no it isn't. Why should we help other people if it involves sacrificing a bit...

Same with education. Or anything really.

I'd love if libertarians will stop paying taxes, and government will stop providing them services. Let's see how they'll react if there's no police to respond when they're in trouble, no ambulance to tend if they have emergency, no firemen if they're house is burning, no military to protect them from war.

Humans cannot stand on their own alone. At one point in our life, we'll need to cooperate for the betterment of ourselves and the community.

I don't care. I don't need help dying in this world. As it is I am surprised I am still alive. If cooperation never always screwed me over perhaps id be better receptive of said idea.

[Souseiseki]

Congrats, you just proved that your view on this issue is entirely selfish and not in the interest of anybody but yourself.

Or, in other words, you've just removed yourself entirely from this debate.

Where has anybody but a few close people helped me? How can I empathize with a stranger whose intentions can be anything? There is no logic in altruism.

Hypocrite!

my rational self-interest!

there is actually plenty of logic in helping others with the assumption they will help you in return if need be, as it results in a mutually beneficial arrangement for all involved. the only problem with this is that there is a chance there is someone that will not help (i.e. you) in which case people stop helping them, which is very much a bad thing, especially in older times. there is a reason humans evolved to be group animals, you know. also, for the record, tit-for-tat kicks game theories ass and is empirically proven to be the best strategy, so there's also that. unless of course one person backs out, in which case it results in an overall shitter result for both parties. logic is the only thing people that get turned on by rand (pretend) to have, and they can't even do that right. it's really depressing.

[Oneracon]

They look pretty secure to me. Then again, I actually read the sources.

CBC investigation found over 4800 incidents of community mailboxes being broken into or damaged in some way (including arson).