"Santa Claus should be white"

[Geilinor]

So basically, he isn't white.

he practically is...

People created the legend, people can take creative liberties with it. Don't tell me the picture below is a grievous violation of "the canon".

[The Godly Nations]

Superman isn't white, he is a Kryptonian, Earthling racial distinction can hardly apply to him, an extraterrestial.

By that logic, Dr Who isnt white either. He is just a Time Lord
Who happens to always be played by a white actor.

*seriously, I wouldnt be shocked there is a movement for the first black Dr Who

For basic purposes, both are white. Why this has to matter is beyond me.

Dr Who is a Time Lord, which is why we wouldn't be particularly surprised by an Asian or a Black Time Lord, nor will there be much of a fuss about it by anyone but diehard racist, because as a Time Lord, Dr Who's apperance has changed so many time, that it really doesn't matter anymore who plays him, only that they play him well.

[The Godly Nations]

he practically is...

People created the legend, people can take creative liberties with it. Don't tell me the picture below is a grievous violation of "the canon".

We were talking about Superman, who God Kefka claims is white, but everyone else who has even the slightest knowledge of the series and the comic knows to be utter bullshit, given that Superman isn't even human, let alone 'white'.

[Mavorpen]

he practically is...

People created the legend, people can take creative liberties with it. Don't tell me the picture below is a grievous violation of "the canon".

It's like whining, "Athena wasn't born outside of Olympus! She was born out of Zeus' head!"

Newsflash: legends about fictional characters are free to be changed, even if it deals with major events such as their birth.

[Siaos]

People created the legend, people can take creative liberties with it. Don't tell me the picture below is a grievous violation of "the canon".

(Image)

We were talking about Superman, who God Kefka claims is white, but everyone else who has even the slightest knowledge of the series and the comic knows to be utter bullshit, given that Superman isn't even human, let alone 'white'.

Really? He doesn't look like a caucasian American? In any case your missing the point. It still wouldn't make sense to make him latino, like how you want to make Santa black or multiracial.

[God Kefka]

People created the legend, people can take creative liberties with it. Don't tell me the picture below is a grievous violation of "the canon".

It's like whining, "Athena wasn't born outside of Olympus! She was born out of Zeus' head!"

Newsflash: legends about fictional characters are free to be changed, even if it deals with major events such as their birth.

no they are not... they are a product of tradition and art. And Santa has always been white, the Greek gods have always been white etc etc...

[The Godly Nations]

People created the legend, people can take creative liberties with it. Don't tell me the picture below is a grievous violation of "the canon".

It's like whining, "Athena wasn't born outside of Olympus! She was born out of Zeus' head!"

Newsflash: legends about fictional characters are free to be changed, even if it deals with major events such as their birth.

Don't know, the Athenians were all rioting and pissing themselves over the liberties the Euripides, Sophocles, etc. were taking with their legend.

[Mavorpen]

Really? He doesn't look like a caucasian American? In any case your missing the point. It still wouldn't make sense to make him latino, like how you want to make Santa black or multiracial.

Of course it would.

Because, he's not white. He's not even human. He doesn't exist at all.

[The Godly Nations]

It's like whining, "Athena wasn't born outside of Olympus! She was born out of Zeus' head!"

Newsflash: legends about fictional characters are free to be changed, even if it deals with major events such as their birth.

no they are not... they are a product of tradition and art. And Santa has always been white, the Greek gods have always been white etc etc...

No, Santa has always been an Anatolian, and the Greeks didn't seem to have a particular race for their Gods, equating it, for example, with the Gods of the Egyptians, the Babylonians, who were not white.

[Mavorpen]

no they are not... they are a product of tradition and art. And Santa has always been white, the Greek gods have always been white etc etc...

So you're saying their race is more impactful on their character than actual major events like their birth?

Yep, you're trolling.

[Siaos]

Really? He doesn't look like a caucasian American? In any case your missing the point. It still wouldn't make sense to make him latino, like how you want to make Santa black or multiracial.

Of course it would.

Because, he's not white. He's not even human. He doesn't exist at all.

Then you agree with me. Since Santa is a human, he shouldn't be changed. After all, the reason it makes sense to change Superman's race is: "because he's not white. He's not even human"

[Mavorpen]

no they are not... they are a product of tradition and art. And Santa has always been white, the Greek gods have always been white etc etc...

No, Santa has always been an Anatolian, and the Greeks didn't seem to have a particular race for their Gods, equating it, for example, with the Gods of the Egyptians, the Babylonians, who were not white.

What, you mean that the gods weren't humans?

I'm baffled!

[Mavorpen]

After all, the reason it makes sense to change Superman's race is: "because he's not white. He's not even human"

He also doesn't exist.

How convenient you skipped that part.

[Siaos]

After all, the reason it makes sense to change Superman's race is: "because he's not white. He's not even human"

He also doesn't exist.

How convenient you skipped that part.

Rather irrelevant isn't it? Sure Santa passes that part of the checklist, but he's also a white human, which disqualifies him.

[Mavorpen]

Rather irrelevant isn't it?

No.

Sure Santa passes that part of the checklist, but he's also a white human, which disqualifies him.

He isn't a white human.

He doesn't exist.

[The Godly Nations]

Of course it would.

Because, he's not white. He's not even human. He doesn't exist at all.

Then you agree with me. Since Santa is a human, he shouldn't be changed. After all, the reason it makes sense to change Superman's race is: "because he's not white. He's not even human"

Well, it is possible to completely change Superman's race, given that Hulk himself was originally grey before he gone green.

[Siaos]

Rather irrelevant isn't it?

No.

Sure Santa passes that part of the checklist, but he's also a white human, which disqualifies him.

He isn't a white human.

He doesn't exist.

Yes, but according to legend (And the Coca-Cola ad which popularized him), he's white.

[God Kefka]

no they are not... they are a product of tradition and art. And Santa has always been white, the Greek gods have always been white etc etc...

So you're saying their race is more impactful on their character than actual major events like their birth?

Yep, you're trolling.

I didn't say it. You said it.

All I said was that the race is ONE of the inseparable parts to at least some myths. Santa Claus especially...

[Mavorpen]

Yes, but according to legend (And the Coca-Cola ad which popularized him), he's white.

There is no "the legend." There are multiple legends. No actual legend specifically says he is white.

Now drawings of him portray him as white. They also portray him as black.

[Mavorpen]

All I said was that the race is ONE of the inseparable parts to at least some myths. Santa Claus especially...

I know what you're arguing. Repeating it doesn't make it any less silly.

[The Godly Nations]

No.

He isn't a white human.

He doesn't exist.

Yes, but according to legend (And the Coca-Cola ad which popularized him), he's white.

According to which legends again?

[The Godly Nations]

So you're saying their race is more impactful on their character than actual major events like their birth?

Yep, you're trolling.

I didn't say it. You said it.

All I said was that the race is ONE of the inseparable parts to at least some myths. Santa Claus especially...

It is an abomination if MacBeth isn't white...oh wait:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voodoo_Macbeth

[Siaos]

Yes, but according to legend (And the Coca-Cola ad which popularized him), he's white.

There is no "the legend." There are multiple legends. No actual legend specifically says he is white.

Now drawings of him portray him as white. They also portray him as black.

Just to name a few legends:
St. Nick, who is always drawn as white or white/middle eastern
Sinterklaas, who is always white due to being from northern Germany
Father Christmas, who is default white due to being from England
Ghost of Christmas past from a Christmas Carol, who was white and contributed many characteristics to modern Santa
Odin, a white God who contributed to Father Christmas and Sinterklaas after Christianization.
Coca-Cola Santa, which is basically modern Santa and is always white in the ads.

[God Kefka]

I didn't say it. You said it.

All I said was that the race is ONE of the inseparable parts to at least some myths. Santa Claus especially...

It is an abomination if MacBeth isn't white...oh wait:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voodoo_Macbeth

Macbeth is canonically white. So is the whole cast. Its set in the United Kingdom in the age of kings for god's sake...

having an entire black cast play it has to inevitably be a bit unfaithful to the source material...

[God Kefka]

There is no "the legend." There are multiple legends. No actual legend specifically says he is white.

Now drawings of him portray him as white. They also portray him as black.

Just to name a few legends:
St. Nick, who is always drawn as white or white/middle eastern
Sinterklaas, who is always white due to being from northern Germany
Father Christmas, who is default white due to being from England
Ghost of Christmas past from a Christmas Carol, who was white and contribute many characteristics to modern Santa
Odin, a white God who contributed to Father Christmas and Sinterklaas after Christianization.
Coca-Cola Santa, which is basically modern Santa and is always white in the ads.

exactly...

Santa Claus has always been white. He's not new puppet for some liberal agenda for diversity where you can just change his race at will... He's an artistic creation and the race is a part of him. He's white...