"Santa Claus should be white"

[The Godly Nations]

At least two things just in the bolded part alone that you are attributing to my position which I have not personally said I endorse.

If you think someone arguing Santa Claus should be white is also necessarily implicitly arguing that blacks have to cancel Christmas if they can't find a white man to play Santa... then just remember, that's YOUR assumption.

Don't throw it on me and then act like I came up with this stuff in the first place.

So then Santa can be portrayed as black.

Good.

How about we have an image of santa on a blank sheet of paper, and have people just colour in what they think he should look like, and God Kefka and keep his Aryan Christmas, while children everywhere else can colour in what they think is appropiate.

[Mavorpen]

So then Santa can be portrayed as black.

Good.

How about we have an image of santa on a blank sheet of paper, and have people just colour in what they think he should look like, and God Kefka and keep his Aryan Christmas, while children everywhere else can colour in what they think is appropiate.

This is totally going to be my coloring.

[God Kefka]

At least two things just in the bolded part alone that you are attributing to my position which I have not personally said I endorse.

If you think someone arguing Santa Claus should be white is also necessarily implicitly arguing that blacks have to cancel Christmas if they can't find a white man to play Santa... then just remember, that's YOUR assumption.

Don't throw it on me and then act like I came up with this stuff in the first place.

So then Santa can be portrayed as black.

Good.

he can't be portrayed as black... he must always be portrayed as white because in the legend and in the tradition, he has always been white.

A black person can dress up as Santa, but he must recognize the truth that he is roleplaying a white man. Nothing necessarily wrong with that, but Santa is white.

Just like Harry Potter and Superman are white.

The canonical Santa Claus is always white. Blacks are welcome to dress up as him if they want but it will always be less compelling than a white old man playing a white old man.

I mean... try as hard as you want, a white actor can never fully portray Martin Luther King jr.

[Mavorpen]

he can't be portrayed as black... he must always be portrayed as white because in the legend and in the tradition, he has always been white.

A black person can dress up as Santa, but he must recognize the truth that he is roleplaying a white man. Nothing necessarily wrong with that, but Santa is white.

No, he's roleplaying a fictional character.

I mean... try as hard as you want, a white actor can never fully portray Martin Luther King jr.

Yes they can.

[The Great Warrior Rivers]

So then Santa can be portrayed as black.

Good.

he can't be portrayed as black... he must always be portrayed as white because in the legend and in the tradition, he has always been white.

A black person can dress up as Santa, but he must recognize the truth that he is roleplaying a white man. Nothing necessarily wrong with that, but Santa is white.

Just like Harry Potter and Superman are white.

The canonical Santa Claus is always white. Blacks are welcome to dress up as him if they want but it will always be less compelling than a white old man playing a white old man.

I mean... try as hard as you want, a white actor can never fully portray Martin Luther King jr.

That'll be the next thread, "Martin Luther King Jr. should be white"

[God Kefka]

he can't be portrayed as black... he must always be portrayed as white because in the legend and in the tradition, he has always been white.

A black person can dress up as Santa, but he must recognize the truth that he is roleplaying a white man. Nothing necessarily wrong with that, but Santa is white.

Just like Harry Potter and Superman are white.

The canonical Santa Claus is always white. Blacks are welcome to dress up as him if they want but it will always be less compelling than a white old man playing a white old man.

I mean... try as hard as you want, a white actor can never fully portray Martin Luther King jr.

That'll be the next thread, "Martin Luther King Jr. should be white"

can't have that... race is part of a character's baggage.

Santa Claus is clearly white. It doesn't mean a non-white can't play Santa... it just means they are playing a white character.

If you don't like that, then write a new character for the Christmas of your own ethnic group and if he/she gets famous, good for you.

But Santa remains white...

[Mavorpen]

can't have that... race is part of a character's baggage.

Except, Martin Luther King Jr. isn't a character. He's not fictional.

[God Kefka]

he can't be portrayed as black... he must always be portrayed as white because in the legend and in the tradition, he has always been white.

A black person can dress up as Santa, but he must recognize the truth that he is roleplaying a white man. Nothing necessarily wrong with that, but Santa is white.

No, he's roleplaying a fictional character.

I mean... try as hard as you want, a white actor can never fully portray Martin Luther King jr.

Yes they can.

A theater won't hire a white person to ever play Martin Luther King jr... not a professional one anyways. It just won't be convincing.

Political correctness and racial blindness doesn't and shouldn't tie art. Art is all about the visual...

Santa is white.

[Mavorpen]

A theater won't hire a white person to ever play Martin Luther King jr... not a professional one anyways. It just won't be convincing.

No one said it would be. Even if you hire a black person, that wouldn't automatically make them a good choice at portraying him either.

It'd be surprising at first, but if the portrayal was good, it could be really convincing.

Santa is white.

Santa doesn't exist.

[God Kefka]

A theater won't hire a white person to ever play Martin Luther King jr... not a professional one anyways. It just won't be convincing.

No one said it would be. Even if you hire a black person, that wouldn't automatically make them a good choice at portraying him either.

It'd be surprising at first, but if the portrayal was good, it could be really convincing.

Santa is white.

Santa doesn't exist.

he exists as an artistic creation and one of the greatest fictional characters ever... and he's always definitively white.

[Mavorpen]

he exists as an artistic creation and one of the greatest fictional characters ever...

No he isn't. He's a one dimensional character that rather shallowly represents basic ideals of giving.

and he's always definitively white.

Well, looks like you're wrong.

[God Kefka]

he exists as an artistic creation and one of the greatest fictional characters ever...

No he isn't. He's a one dimensional character that rather shallowly represents basic ideals of giving.

and he's always definitively white.

Well, looks like you're wrong.

that's non-canon... he's always been white.

I can draw a black Harry Potter... doesn't make him no longer white.

[The Godly Nations]

Just like Harry Potter and Superman are white.

Superman isn't white, he is a Kryptonian, Earthling racial distinction can hardly apply to him, an extraterrestial.

[Mavorpen]

that's non-canon... he's always been white.

There is no "canon."

[God Kefka]

Just like Harry Potter and Superman are white.

Superman isn't white, he is a Kryptonian, Earthling racial distinction can hardly apply to him, an extraterrestial.

well if you had to assign a race to him, he would be white... or closest to white. That's the canon.

A black person can roleplay Superman if he wants, but he's roleplaying a white person, or something in the image of a white person.

In the same way, it doesn't matter what race you are and you are welcome to dress up as Santa. But you are role playing a white man...

[The Godly Nations]

No he isn't. He's a one dimensional character that rather shallowly represents basic ideals of giving.



Well, looks like you're wrong.

that's non-canon... he's always been white.

I can draw a black Harry Potter... doesn't make him no longer white.

J.K. Rowling never explicitly stated that Harry Potter was white in the book. He may well be black, or part Pakistani, which would explain why his Aunt and Uncle were so ridiculously abusive towards him.

[Mavorpen]

well if you had to assign a race to him, he would be white... or closest to white. That's the canon.

So basically, he isn't white.

[God Kefka]

that's non-canon... he's always been white.

There is no "canon."

yes there is... all the major sources of the legend agree that he is white...

[Geilinor]

No one said it would be. Even if you hire a black person, that wouldn't automatically make them a good choice at portraying him either.

It'd be surprising at first, but if the portrayal was good, it could be really convincing.

Santa doesn't exist.

he exists as an artistic creation and one of the greatest fictional characters ever... and he's always definitively white.

I take it you haven't read much fiction if Santa is one of the best and most developed characters you can come up with?

[God Kefka]

well if you had to assign a race to him, he would be white... or closest to white. That's the canon.

So basically, he isn't white.

he practically is...

[Conservative Conservationists]

Just like Harry Potter and Superman are white.

Superman isn't white, he is a Kryptonian, Earthling racial distinction can hardly apply to him, an extraterrestial.

By that logic, Dr Who isnt white either. He is just a Time Lord
Who happens to always be played by a white actor.

*seriously, I wouldnt be shocked there is a movement for the first black Dr Who

For basic purposes, both are white. Why this has to matter is beyond me.

[Mavorpen]

There is no "canon."

yes there is... all the major sources of the legend agree that he is white...

So basically there is no canon.

[The Godly Nations]

Superman isn't white, he is a Kryptonian, Earthling racial distinction can hardly apply to him, an extraterrestial.

well if you had to assign a race to him, he would be white... or closest to white. That's the canon.

A black person can roleplay Superman if he wants, but he's roleplaying a white person, or something in the image of a white person.

In the same way, it doesn't matter what race you are and you are welcome to dress up as Santa. But you are role playing a white man...

If I were to assign a race to Superman, it is Kryptonian. If a Kryptonian didn't play the part of Superman, then it would be less compelling and less convincing, because it is simply a human acting like a Kryptonian.

[Siaos]

yes there is... all the major sources of the legend agree that he is white...

So basically there is no canon.

We get it, you're good at repeating statements contradictory to what he says.

[Mavorpen]

So basically, he isn't white.

he practically is...

So he isn't. Got it.