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Postby The Alma Mater » Sat Dec 28, 2013 7:15 am

Immoren wrote:
Imperializt Russia wrote:I'm considering "Santa Claus" a separate entity from the "Saint Nicholas" character here, because I'm pretty sure the "modern image" of "Santa Claus" was a Coca Cola invention, for their first Christmas ads. The whole thing of big white beard, red suit, etc


They are both aspects/avatars of same being.


Not in most countries on this planet. There they are distinct and different (and do not look much alike).
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Postby Immoren » Sat Dec 28, 2013 7:19 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
Immoren wrote:
They are both aspects/avatars of same being.


Not in most countries on this planet. There they are distinct and different (and do not look much alike).


They are distinct and different, yet they are same. :P
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Postby The Alma Mater » Sat Dec 28, 2013 7:22 am

Immoren wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:
Not in most countries on this planet. There they are distinct and different (and do not look much alike).


They are distinct and different, yet they are same. :P


Hmm, no. One is an avatar of the winter spirit, the other the patron saint of prostitutes, sailors and bankers ;)
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Postby Chinese Regions » Sat Dec 28, 2013 8:30 am

Luveria wrote:
Immoren wrote:
They are both aspects/avatars of same being.


You make Santa sound like a deity.

Because he is.
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Postby Cetacea » Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:00 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
Immoren wrote:
They are distinct and different, yet they are same. :P


Hmm, no. One is an avatar of the winter spirit, the other the patron saint of prostitutes, sailors and bankers ;)


Why cant he be both?

Obviously the old Winter King whose blood is spilt on the snow to ensure the return of summer can also keep prostitutes and sailors safe and drop sacks of gold through windows too. His sacrifice is a precious gift given freely to ensure we all have life and so we feast in his honor, sharing our bounty with all and hang lights in the yule tree to guide the spirits of our ancestors home...
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Postby The Genoese Cromanatum » Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:03 am

Bezombia wrote:In a much, much broader sense, I believe that "race" itself is just a societal construct thinly based on the real, and that we'd to well to just erase the concept completely.


"Race is a social construct"

Heh.

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Postby Iastein » Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:08 am

You are not racist for thinking Santa is white but you are for arguing with anyone who thins other wise Santa can be whatever.
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Postby Hadin » Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:09 am

Just so you know, this nation, in character, is a highly sexist, highly theocratic, and highly authoritarian state. (Though under the new guy, it seems to be improving a little).

I disagree with a lot of what this nation stands for. It was invented for its intrigue and ample opportunities for satire, not for its ideals.

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Postby Bezombia » Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:12 am

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Postby Hadin » Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:17 am

Just so you know, this nation, in character, is a highly sexist, highly theocratic, and highly authoritarian state. (Though under the new guy, it seems to be improving a little).

I disagree with a lot of what this nation stands for. It was invented for its intrigue and ample opportunities for satire, not for its ideals.

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Postby Immoren » Sat Dec 28, 2013 9:20 am

Cetacea wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:
Hmm, no. One is an avatar of the winter spirit, the other the patron saint of prostitutes, sailors and bankers ;)


Why cant he be both?

Obviously the old Winter King whose blood is spilt on the snow to ensure the return of summer can also keep prostitutes and sailors safe and drop sacks of gold through windows too. His sacrifice is a precious gift given freely to ensure we all have life and so we feast in his owner, sharing our bounty with all and hang lights in the yule tree to guide the spirits of our ancestors home...


This guys gets it.



What problems there's with this holiday?
How elts we'd make sure that the sun rises 1st of January?
:P
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Postby YellowApple » Sat Dec 28, 2013 10:24 am

The Alma Mater wrote:
Immoren wrote:
They are distinct and different, yet they are same. :P


Hmm, no. One is an avatar of the winter spirit, the other the patron saint of prostitutes, sailors and bankers ;)


Who can possibly be in the mood for winter without prostitutes?

Hence, they're one and the same ;)

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Postby The Alma Mater » Sat Dec 28, 2013 11:51 am

YellowApple wrote:
The Alma Mater wrote:
Hmm, no. One is an avatar of the winter spirit, the other the patron saint of prostitutes, sailors and bankers ;)


Who can possibly be in the mood for winter without prostitutes?


Jon Snow :P ?
Then again, he knows nothing.
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Postby ALMF » Sat Dec 28, 2013 6:10 pm

Iastein wrote:You are not racist for thinking Santa is white but you are for arguing with anyone who thins other wise Santa can be whatever.

In other words its not racist to have a wite Santa, but it is raciest to object to a nonwite Santa or seeking to make portrayals of Santa less ubiquitously wite NESSASERLY IS.
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Postby Bezombia » Sat Dec 28, 2013 6:20 pm

ALMF wrote:
Iastein wrote:You are not racist for thinking Santa is white but you are for arguing with anyone who thins other wise Santa can be whatever.

In other words its not racist to have a wite Santa, but it is raciest to object to a nonwite Santa or seeking to make portrayals of Santa less ubiquitously wite NESSASERLY IS.


"wite"
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Verdum wrote:Hey girl, is your name Karl Marx? Because your starting an uprising in my lower classes.
Black Hand wrote:New plan is to just make thousands of disposable firearms and dump them out of cargo planes with tiny drag chutes attached.
Spreewerke wrote:The metric system is the only measurement system that truly meters.
Spreewerke wrote:Salt the women, rape the earth.
Equestican wrote:Ben is love, Ben is life.
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Postby YellowApple » Sat Dec 28, 2013 6:34 pm

Bezombia wrote:
ALMF wrote:In other words its not racist to have a wite Santa, but it is raciest to object to a nonwite Santa or seeking to make portrayals of Santa less ubiquitously wite NESSASERLY IS.


"wite"


I kept reading that as "wife".

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Postby Immoren » Sat Dec 28, 2013 6:36 pm

Bezombia wrote:
ALMF wrote:In other words its not racist to have a wite Santa, but it is raciest to object to a nonwite Santa or seeking to make portrayals of Santa less ubiquitously wite NESSASERLY IS.


"wite"


Obviously it shoud be "whait".
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discoursedrome wrote:everyone knows that quote, "I know not what weapons World War Three will be fought, but World War Four will be fought with sticks and stones," but in a way it's optimistic and inspiring because it suggests that even after destroying civilization and returning to the stone age we'll still be sufficiently globalized and bellicose to have another world war right then and there

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Postby Bezombia » Sat Dec 28, 2013 6:39 pm

Immoren wrote:
Bezombia wrote:
"wite"


Obviously it shoud be "whait".


pretty sure it's spealled "whaet"
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Verdum wrote:Hey girl, is your name Karl Marx? Because your starting an uprising in my lower classes.
Black Hand wrote:New plan is to just make thousands of disposable firearms and dump them out of cargo planes with tiny drag chutes attached.
Spreewerke wrote:The metric system is the only measurement system that truly meters.
Spreewerke wrote:Salt the women, rape the earth.
Equestican wrote:Ben is love, Ben is life.
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Postby Ixzara » Sat Dec 28, 2013 6:39 pm

Bezombia wrote:
Immoren wrote:
Obviously it shoud be "whait".


pretty sure it's spealled "whaet"

What? I thought it was "Whaeite".
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Postby Immoren » Sat Dec 28, 2013 6:43 pm

Bezombia wrote:
Immoren wrote:
Obviously it shoud be "whait".


pretty sure it's spealled "whaet"


Ixzara wrote:
Bezombia wrote:
pretty sure it's spealled "whaet"

What? I thought it was "Whaeite".


Only in your heathen tongues. :P
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Postby United Prefectures of Appia » Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:19 pm

Sociobiology wrote:
United Prefectures of Appia wrote:Cause Irish Mexican isn't a race. I'm assuming we're just talking about the racial aspect alone, right? :P

you do realize no race is valid right?

While I believe that there is no such thing as one being of pure race, I'm still referring to the biological aspect of it.
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Postby Shaggai » Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:27 pm

Ixzara wrote:
Bezombia wrote:
pretty sure it's spealled "whaet"

What? I thought it was "Whaeite".

Whæiite.
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Postby Me-lek » Wed Jan 15, 2014 6:29 pm

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Ixzara wrote:What? I thought it was "Whaeite".

Whæiite.

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United Prefectures of Appia wrote:
Sociobiology wrote:you do realize no race is valid right?

While I believe that there is no such thing as one being of pure race, I'm still referring to the biological aspect of it.

If you want to talk about the biological aspect, genetically speaking, the concept of race does not exist. Also, this thread has been dead for some time already, eh? Why post?
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