"Santa Claus should be white"

[Nationes Pii Redivivi]

Dear God! Why does it matter?

Santa can only canonically be white, so when Black Fathers play Santa, they must always keep in mind they are playing a white man, and so, they must put on White-Face and do the whole White Minstrel Act.

[United British Union]

Dear God! Why does it matter?

Nelson Mandela is black, but the white population does not complain,

[Nationes Pii Redivivi]

Dear God! Why does it matter?

Nelson Mandela is black, but the white population does not complain,

Nelson Mandela was a real person, Santa isn't.


Just like Shakespeare was a real person, and white, but Hamlet isn't, and so can be any race you want him to be.

[Nervium]

Dear God! Why does it matter?

Nelson Mandela is black, but the white population does not complain,

The difference being, one of them was the former president of South Africa, the other one is a fictional character based on a Byzantine Bishop.

[Bolrieg]

Unread postby United British Union » Mon Dec 16, 2013 10:17 am



United British Union wrote:Dear God! Why does it matter?


Nelson Mandela is black, but the white population does not complain

they did at one point

[United British Union]

Nelson Mandela is black, but the white population does not complain,

Nelson Mandela was a real person, Santa isn't.


Just like Shakespeare was a real person, and white, but Hamlet isn't, and so can be any race you want him to be.

Yes, but he is St Nicholas. St Nicholas was white...

[Nationes Pii Redivivi]

Unread postby United British Union » Mon Dec 16, 2013 10:17 am



United British Union wrote:Dear God! Why does it matter?


Nelson Mandela is black, but the white population does not complain

they did at one point

Some do still.

[Nationes Pii Redivivi]

Nelson Mandela was a real person, Santa isn't.


Just like Shakespeare was a real person, and white, but Hamlet isn't, and so can be any race you want him to be.

Yes, but he is St Nicholas. St Nicholas was white...

But he was based on St. Nicholas, who was Anatolian, and therefore not white as the purest Aryan snow.

[New Bierstaat]

Dear God! Why does it matter?

Yeah, I should have known better than to post here. These threads always end badly.

[Nervium]

Nelson Mandela was a real person, Santa isn't.


Just like Shakespeare was a real person, and white, but Hamlet isn't, and so can be any race you want him to be.

Yes, but he is St Nicholas. St Nicholas was white...

Not really, Santa Claus has no connection to the/a church, St Nicholas does.

[United British Union]

Yes, but he is St Nicholas. St Nicholas was white...

But he was based on St. Nicholas, who was Anatolian, and therefore not white as the purest Aryan snow.

As some believe, sir

[Nationes Pii Redivivi]

But he was based on St. Nicholas, who was Anatolian, and therefore not white as the purest Aryan snow.

As some believe, sir

As all documents show, sir, he was bishop of Myra and probably born in Patara, all on Asia Minor.

[The Alma Mater]

As some believe, sir

As all documents show, sir, he was bishop of Myra and probably born in Patara, all on Asia Minor.

Yes, but as has been mentioned ad nauseam, Santa Clause only takes his name (and possibly the colour red) from Saint Nicholas.
His bodily shape is based on the mythical figure of Father Christmas; who depending on who you ask is black, white or invisble

[Czechanada]

Santa Claus was constructed by an artist working for Coca Cola, so Cola Cola Ltd. should be sued for racist advertising.

[United British Union]

Anyhow, don't some black people ( not all,) get offended by things as traditional as Father Christmas?

[Immoren]

Dear God! Why does it matter?

Santa can only canonically be white, so when Black Fathers play Santa, they must always keep in mind they are playing a white man, and so, they must put on White-Face and do the whole White Minstrel Act.

Inverse Black-Face.

[Nervium]

Just make Santa rainbow coloured.

It will offend fundamentalist christians? I'm in for it.

[Czechanada]

Just make Santa rainbow coloured.

It will offend fundamentalist christians? I'm in for it.

I didn't think of it that way!

[Nationes Pii Redivivi]

As all documents show, sir, he was bishop of Myra and probably born in Patara, all on Asia Minor.

Yes, but as has been mentioned ad nauseam, Santa Clause only takes his name (and possibly the colour red) from Saint Nicholas.
His bodily shape is based on the mythical figure of Father Christmas; who depending on who you ask is black, white or invisble

But, UBU roi claims that Santa Claus is St. Nicholas, and therefore 'white', when St. Nicholas himself wasn't.


Father Christmas, on the otherhand, has no race, and therefore there is no canonically white Father Christmas that all people must adhere to.

[Nationes Pii Redivivi]

Anyhow, don't some black people ( not all,) get offended by things as traditional as Father Christmas?

I don't know, why should black people be offended that only a white man can represent giving and kindness?

[Chinese Regions]

Nelson Mandela was a real person, Santa isn't.


Just like Shakespeare was a real person, and white, but Hamlet isn't, and so can be any race you want him to be.

Yes, but he is St Nicholas. St Nicholas was white...

He isn't St. Nicholas, he is the amalgamation of St. Nicholas, Father Christmas and Christkindl.
St. Nicholas is a bishop from Anatolia, he skin color is probably olive-brown kind as most of the Europeans who live on the Mediterranean are.

[United British Union]

Anyhow, don't some black people ( not all,) get offended by things as traditional as Father Christmas?

I don't know, why should black people be offended that only a white man can represent giving and kindness?

Far too sensitive!

Look inside your telegrams, sir.

[Chinese Regions]

It will offend fundamentalist christians? I'm in for it.

I didn't think of it that way!

Make him an buff Indian Sikh, then a couple of decades later, say he's the same guy but make him thin and white.

[Gulf of Nungfienrt]

My question is this, who cares? He isn't real, it shouldn't be a big deal because he doesn't exist. I not's like people are saying Nelson Mandela is white, which he is not. Just let Santa be white or whatever, regardless you could just put a mask on him and that way it can up to the persons imagination, his hands are covered and so are his legs so no skin is showing.

[Ovisterra]

I think I spent too much time off Nationstates. I find myself looking around in horrified incredulity and wondering who the hell could actually care about something so ridiculous.

I thought Fox News' piece on it was pretty funny, though, but Jon Stewart's reaction to it was even funnier.