"Santa Claus should be white"

[ALMF]

if you Google up Santa Claus you will see nothing but white Santa Clauses for the first few pages...

I just did that and you lied.

To be fair 2 exceptions don't brake his point. What does is that it's 1950s cultural appropriation of a Turkoman (that is middle eastern) figure.

[Luveria]

I just did that and you lied.

To be fair 2 exceptions don't brake his point. What does is that it's 1950s cultural appropriation of a Turkoman (that is middle eastern) figure.

So Santa should be portrayed by Middle Eastern people to stay lore accurate?

[ALMF]

To be fair 2 exceptions don't brake his point. What does is that it's 1950s cultural appropriation of a Turkoman (that is middle eastern) figure.

So Santa should be portrayed by Middle Eastern people to stay lore accurate?

If (and i repeat if) you want to fix a race its to the Namibian end of Turkoman.

[Luveria]

So Santa should be portrayed by Middle Eastern people to stay lore accurate?

If (and i repeat if) you want to fix a race its to the Namibian end of Turkoman.

I'll pass on that.

[The High Guardians]

Still debating the ethnicity of....freaking santa clause...guys...? SERIOUSLY.

[The Republic of the FGFA Stargate League]

My problem with changing Santa is that if their is a white Santa and a black Santa, a kid is going to ask "Hey why is this Santa black and the other one white? And I thought their was only one Santa." Then what do you respond with?

[Luveria]

Still debating the ethnicity of....freaking santa clause...guys...? SERIOUSLY.

It's what NSG does.

[Luveria]

My problem with changing Santa is that if their is a white Santa and a black Santa, a kid is going to ask "Hey why is this Santa black and the other one white? And I thought their was only one Santa." Then what do you respond with?

I would tell the curious child that one of those two Santas is actually Black Pete.

[Newtry]

In my country, we do not know who Santa is.

[Luveria]

In my country, we do not know who Santa is.

You obviously know.

[ALMF]

My problem with changing Santa is that if their is a white Santa and a black Santa, a kid is going to ask "Hey why is this Santa black and the other one white? And I thought their was only one Santa." Then what do you respond with?

We tell kids he comes down every chimney at midnight. Why-not he changes races at his whim?

[New haven america]

Still debating the ethnicity of....freaking santa clause...guys...? SERIOUSLY.

Hi, welcome to NSG, you must be new.

[Rocopurr]

1: Do you think that we should start to see black representations of Santa in popular culture?
2: Is wanting black representations of Santa in popular culture "racist", or just lobbying?
3: Is the "war on christmas" a legitimate political standpoint?
4: Generally, what are your views on black vs. white representations of popular culture figures in modern culture?

Since most people who believe in Santa are kids, I don't think his race should be a big deal. Raise your kid to believe Santa is whatever race you want.

I think it's good to have popular culture figures or all races.

[Luveria]

My problem with changing Santa is that if their is a white Santa and a black Santa, a kid is going to ask "Hey why is this Santa black and the other one white? And I thought their was only one Santa." Then what do you respond with?

We tell kids he comes down every chimney at midnight. Why-not he changes races at his whim?

As long as he isn't using blackface to "change races".

[Tekania]

My problem with changing Santa is that if their is a white Santa and a black Santa, a kid is going to ask "Hey why is this Santa black and the other one white? And I thought their was only one Santa." Then what do you respond with?

We tell kids he comes down every chimney at midnight. Why-not he changes races at his whim?

Indeed, this fat guy can drink tones of cookies and gallons of milk in one night, deliver presents everywhere in one night, rides around on a magic sleigh pulled by magic reindeer, has a workshop run by an army of elves, and can somehow shimmy down narrow chimneys or get into and out of locked houses without chimneys..... and changing skin color is a hard part to sell.

[The Free Kingdom of Proprius]

Let's all agree on a compromise. Santa should be Asian.

[Rocopurr]

Let's all agree on a compromise. Santa should be Asian.

Why not a half black, one fourth Vietnamese, and one fifth Brazilian Santa?

[The Free Kingdom of Proprius]

Why not a half black, one fourth Vietnamese, and one fifth Brazilian Santa?

Good idea.

Wait, we can't agree to a compromise and end this discussion! We need to waste endless media time on the pointless caricaturization of a fictional character.

In 10,000 years, future-man is going to be very confused looking at our media.

Wait, the media was covering the race of a nonexistant man while people starved? While wars happened, and actual news occurred? Were these people too stupid to focus on anything important, or did they deliberately ignore the outside world?

We'll never know. Their species destroyed itself thousands of years ago.

[Nationes Pii Redivivi]

So Santa should be portrayed by Middle Eastern people to stay lore accurate?

If (and i repeat if) you want to fix a race its to the Namibian end of Turkoman.

Bull, Santa isn't a Turk, for one, the Turks haven't invaded Asia Minor yet, and they won't for another few centuries.

[Nationes Pii Redivivi]

Santa is what people make of him. There is NO canon. You can appeal to the non-existent all you like.... it means nothing.

if you Google up Santa Claus you will see nothing but white Santa Clauses for the first few pages...

the common perception of Santa in the Western world today is that he is white... he has been drawn, shown, depicted, and imagined as white for the past hundred years...

all cannon sources have shown him to be white...

All of the sources for his inspirations are on a balance of probabilities white and even if not, they have been imagined as white...

Santa Claus is a European legend. And the presumption in European legends is that the figures are white unless explicitly stated to be otherwise.

Santa Claus has always been white...

What are these "cannon sources"? Sources that have been blown through a cannon, at which case, I have my doubts that they are white, are anything else beside burnt.

[Nationes Pii Redivivi]

My problem with changing Santa is that if their is a white Santa and a black Santa, a kid is going to ask "Hey why is this Santa black and the other one white? And I thought their was only one Santa." Then what do you respond with?

What I told my younger brother when he saw a group of people dressed in Santa suits congregating. There are more than one Santas.

[Constitutional Commonwealth]

In my country, we do not know who Santa is.

He is an extremely controversial, racist, sexist and ageist nonexistent being.

[Constitutional Commonwealth]

Let's all agree on a compromise. Santa should be Asian.

No, I'm sure that he's mixed race. Everyone is.

[Nationes Pii Redivivi]

In my country, we do not know who Santa is.

He is an extremely controversial, racist, sexist and ageist nonexistent being.

He is a symbol of the Christmas holiday in Western Culture, which means that he represent the spirit of "giving", "generousity", and all the other things that have been baggaged onto the Christmas season.

Which is precisely why the idea that only a white person can protray the spirit of the season is extremely racist, with the connotation, as some people already pointed out sarcastically, that "black people can't possibly give...take, yes, but give?".

[Union Of Canadorian Socialists Republic]

Let's all agree on a compromise. Santa should be Asian.

No, I'm sure that he's mixed race. Everyone is.

Screw race! I am offended that Santa is never represented as a Wookie!