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Postby Mavorpen » Sun Dec 15, 2013 5:07 pm

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Mavorpen wrote:Of course not. Anything made by anyone not white is non-canon.

Gotta keep their pure White Symbols from being tainted by those inferior races.

Yah that's what it sounds like to me to. :hug:

It's funny because this has literally happened to cultures time and time again.

Buddha being portrayed as Chinese in China didn't cause Indians to rage about how Buddha should be Indian.
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Postby Gauthier » Sun Dec 15, 2013 5:08 pm

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ALMF wrote:Yah that's what it sounds like to me to. :hug:

It's funny because this has literally happened to cultures time and time again.

Buddha being portrayed as Chinese in China didn't cause Indians to rage about how Buddha should be Indian.


Why else did they make a song called *White* Christmas?
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Postby Mavorpen » Sun Dec 15, 2013 5:12 pm

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Mavorpen wrote:It's funny because this has literally happened to cultures time and time again.

Buddha being portrayed as Chinese in China didn't cause Indians to rage about how Buddha should be Indian.


Why else did they make a song called *White* Christmas?

Because December is the month after "No-Fap November"?
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Postby God Kefka » Sun Dec 15, 2013 5:17 pm

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actually I was going to say this to you... with respect to your appeals to this perfectly democratic artistic world where if any single person draws a black Santa is instantly means that the possibility that Santa is black should be taken seriously in contradiction to hundreds of years of canon establishing him as white...


Santa is what people make of him. There is NO canon. You can appeal to the non-existent all you like.... it means nothing.


if you Google up Santa Claus you will see nothing but white Santa Clauses for the first few pages...

the common perception of Santa in the Western world today is that he is white... he has been drawn, shown, depicted, and imagined as white for the past hundred years...

all cannon sources have shown him to be white...

All of the sources for his inspirations are on a balance of probabilities white and even if not, they have been imagined as white...

Santa Claus is a European legend. And the presumption in European legends is that the figures are white unless explicitly stated to be otherwise.

Santa Claus has always been white...
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Postby Tekania » Sun Dec 15, 2013 5:30 pm

God Kefka wrote:
Tekania wrote:
Santa is what people make of him. There is NO canon. You can appeal to the non-existent all you like.... it means nothing.


if you Google up Santa Claus you will see nothing but white Santa Clauses for the first few pages...

the common perception of Santa in the Western world today is that he is white... he has been drawn, shown, depicted, and imagined as white for the past hundred years...

all cannon sources have shown him to be white...

All of the sources for his inspirations are on a balance of probabilities white and even if not, they have been imagined as white...

Santa Claus is a European legend. And the presumption in European legends is that the figures are white unless explicitly stated to be otherwise.

Santa Claus has always been white...


Santa Clause is a relativity recent American invention from several different sources. We can add what we want and modify it what we want because no one owns it. There is no canon, you have no authority to declare one. Your appeals to the nonexistent is meaningless.
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Postby God Kefka » Sun Dec 15, 2013 5:35 pm

Tekania wrote:
God Kefka wrote:
if you Google up Santa Claus you will see nothing but white Santa Clauses for the first few pages...

the common perception of Santa in the Western world today is that he is white... he has been drawn, shown, depicted, and imagined as white for the past hundred years...

all cannon sources have shown him to be white...

All of the sources for his inspirations are on a balance of probabilities white and even if not, they have been imagined as white...

Santa Claus is a European legend. And the presumption in European legends is that the figures are white unless explicitly stated to be otherwise.

Santa Claus has always been white...


Santa Clause is a relativity recent American invention from several different sources. We can add what we want and modify it what we want because no one owns it. There is no canon, you have no authority to declare one. Your appeals to the nonexistent is meaningless.


Au contraire...

no... he's European and he's been around for hundreds of years. There is a canon and he is white...
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Postby Chinese Regions » Sun Dec 15, 2013 5:44 pm

God Kefka wrote:
Tekania wrote:
Santa Clause is a relativity recent American invention from several different sources. We can add what we want and modify it what we want because no one owns it. There is no canon, you have no authority to declare one. Your appeals to the nonexistent is meaningless.


Au contraire...

no... he's European and he's been around for hundreds of years. There is a canon and he is white...

If that is true then this is the most accurate depiction of Santa.
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Postby Chinese Regions » Sun Dec 15, 2013 5:45 pm

God Kefka wrote:
Tekania wrote:
Santa is what people make of him. There is NO canon. You can appeal to the non-existent all you like.... it means nothing.


if you Google up Santa Claus you will see nothing but white Santa Clauses for the first few pages...

I don't see any white Santas, I see Santas with this range of skin colours like all normal human beings.
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Postby Chinese Regions » Sun Dec 15, 2013 5:48 pm

God Kefka wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:Santa isn't from anywhere.

He doesn't exist.


he's European...

Maybe like 2/3, 1/3 Anatolian
Or maye 2/6 if we suppose he's half-American since that is the land the modern day Santa was formulated and popularized by the Coca Cola company.
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Postby Chinese Regions » Sun Dec 15, 2013 5:51 pm

God Kefka wrote:
The Holy NeoSpanish Empire wrote:santa claus must be green (Image)


he's white in that pic though...

Nope he's wearing green clothes, ergo he is green. You know what is white? The snow (it's actually a very light bluish grey but nevermind) if Santa was white, then his skin should be the same color as the snow, it isn't, his skin is very light tannish pink color like most Europeans.
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Postby Shaggai » Sun Dec 15, 2013 6:24 pm

God Kefka wrote:
Tekania wrote:
Santa is what people make of him. There is NO canon. You can appeal to the non-existent all you like.... it means nothing.


if you Google up Santa Claus you will see nothing but white Santa Clauses for the first few pages...

I just did that and you lied.
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Postby Tekania » Sun Dec 15, 2013 6:29 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Mavorpen wrote:It's funny because this has literally happened to cultures time and time again.

Buddha being portrayed as Chinese in China didn't cause Indians to rage about how Buddha should be Indian.


Why else did they make a song called *White* Christmas?


Irving Berlin is a "They"?
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Postby Luveria » Sun Dec 15, 2013 6:30 pm

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You were founded 2 days ago!


So? I was founded February but I have been here for years.
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Postby Gauthier » Sun Dec 15, 2013 6:34 pm

Tekania wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
Why else did they make a song called *White* Christmas?


Irving Berlin is a "They"?


He was part of the White Establishment, so he counts as a "they". *nod*
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Postby The New Lowlands » Sun Dec 15, 2013 6:44 pm

Does it matter?
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Postby Luveria » Sun Dec 15, 2013 6:47 pm

The New Lowlands wrote:Does it matter?


It shouldn't, but apparently to some people it does. Last I checked, anyone is allowed to put on a Santa Claus suit, unless I'm mistaken.
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Postby Gauthier » Sun Dec 15, 2013 7:03 pm

Luveria wrote:
The New Lowlands wrote:Does it matter?


It shouldn't, but apparently to some people it does. Last I checked, anyone is allowed to put on a Santa Claus suit, unless I'm mistaken.


It's only supposed to be Santa Claus if a white man puts on the suit. Otherwise it's a burglar. *nod*
Crimes committed by Muslims will be a pan-Islamic plot and proof of Islam's inherent evil. On the other hand crimes committed by non-Muslims will merely be the acts of loners who do not represent their belief system at all.
The probability of one's participation in homosexual acts is directly proportional to one's public disdain and disgust for homosexuals.
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Postby Luveria » Sun Dec 15, 2013 7:06 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Luveria wrote:
It shouldn't, but apparently to some people it does. Last I checked, anyone is allowed to put on a Santa Claus suit, unless I'm mistaken.


It's only supposed to be Santa Claus if a white man puts on the suit. Otherwise it's a burglar. *nod*


Asian men in Santa suits are burglars? :eyebrow:
You racist! /sarcasm
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Postby Gauthier » Sun Dec 15, 2013 7:14 pm

Luveria wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
It's only supposed to be Santa Claus if a white man puts on the suit. Otherwise it's a burglar. *nod*


Asian men in Santa suits are burglars? :eyebrow:
You racist!


It's not racist, it's canon! Here's an example of the ideal Santa as God Kefka tells us:

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Postby Luveria » Sun Dec 15, 2013 7:15 pm

Gauthier wrote:
Luveria wrote:
Asian men in Santa suits are burglars? :eyebrow:
You racist!


It's not racist, it's canon! Here's an example of the ideal Santa as God Kefka tells us:

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His eyebrows not being white kills it. Was it really too difficult for him to dye his eyebrows white to match the fake beard?
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Postby Tekania » Sun Dec 15, 2013 7:30 pm

Luveria wrote:
Gauthier wrote:
It's not racist, it's canon! Here's an example of the ideal Santa as God Kefka tells us:

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His eyebrows not being white kills it. Was it really too difficult for him to dye his eyebrows white to match the fake beard?


Sorry, dying his eyebrows white would have killed the image. Next thing you're going to tell me that we should take the bottle of booze out of his hand and clean him up after he peed his pants.
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Postby Luveria » Sun Dec 15, 2013 7:31 pm

Tekania wrote:
Luveria wrote:
His eyebrows not being white kills it. Was it really too difficult for him to dye his eyebrows white to match the fake beard?


Sorry, dying his eyebrows white would have killed the image. Next thing you're going to tell me that we should take the bottle of booze out of his hand and clean him up after he peed his pants.


No, I've always thought Santa is a hard drinker because of his severe depression caused by Polar Night.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polar_night

He's fat because of his beer belly.
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Postby Luveria » Sun Dec 15, 2013 7:32 pm

I just realized how sexist Santa is because only men are allowed to be Santa. This is an outrage.
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Postby Bezombia » Sun Dec 15, 2013 7:34 pm

Luveria wrote:I just realized how sexist Santa is because only men are allowed to be Santa. This is an outrage.


What.
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Postby Luveria » Sun Dec 15, 2013 7:36 pm

Bezombia wrote:
Luveria wrote:I just realized how sexist Santa is because only men are allowed to be Santa. This is an outrage.


What.


According to Western society, Santa is neither race neutral or gender neutral, as Santa is usually an overweight elderly white man.
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