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Postby Regnum Dominae » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:32 pm

Red Star Union wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:That's a terrible idea.

Why?

Do I really have to explain this? It should be quite obvious.

Conscription is bad. Forcing people into the military is bad. Forcing children to dedicate their entire childhoods to preparing for forced military service is even worse.
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Postby Seriong » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:32 pm

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Ainin wrote:Hint: There's no proof it does.


We're talking about children. Children between the ages of 1-8, specifically. Their minds are still developing and growing. When they understand sex, they will be genetically attracted to either males or females. Until then, if they see two male parents of theirs, they might think that's how they're supposed to be.

"If they see a female and male parent of theirs, they might think that's how they are supposed to be, and thus deny their own sexuality"
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Postby Neo Rome Republic » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:32 pm

San wrote:
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well... if it helps protect some kids from discrimination...

did you mean to have a rimshot follow that line

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Postby Luveria » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:33 pm

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Red Star Union wrote:Why?

Do I really have to explain this? It should be quite obvious.

Conscription is bad. Forcing people into the military is bad. Forcing children to dedicate their entire childhoods to preparing for forced military service is even worse.


Especially for the crime of having been adopted by gay parents.

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Postby Red Star Union » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:33 pm

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Red Star Union wrote:No kidding though, those orphans don't have very happy lives, putting them into military schools may actually be a pretty smart idea. After they are old enough to go into the actual military, their lives will have some worth, rather than sitting in an orphanage forever.


There's more for life to offer than wasting your life away joining a military.

Just saying.

These are orphans we're talking about... If they get adopted by civilians, fine, if they don't, then they go in. It really wouldn't be that bad.
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Postby Ainin » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:33 pm

Red Star Union wrote:No kidding though, those orphans don't have very happy lives, putting them into military schools may actually be a pretty smart idea. After they are old enough to go into the actual military, their lives will have some worth, rather than sitting in an orphanage forever.

So, committing crimes against humanity (see clause H) is a smart idea now?
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Postby Luveria » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:33 pm

Red Star Union wrote:
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There's more for life to offer than wasting your life away joining a military.

Just saying.

These are orphans we're talking about... If they get adopted by civilians, fine, if they don't, then they go in. It really wouldn't be that bad.


Would you like to have been raised by the military?

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Postby Regnum Dominae » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:34 pm

Red Star Union wrote:
Meritocratic States wrote:
There's more for life to offer than wasting your life away joining a military.

Just saying.

These are orphans we're talking about... If they get adopted by civilians, fine, if they don't, then they go in. It really wouldn't be that bad.

Yes, it would. What you are advocating is essentially to enslave children to the state for the entirety of their childhood.
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Postby The Star Corporation » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:34 pm

Ifreann wrote:Outlaw Russia.


Unfortunatly, they are a nuclear-capable superpower.... and no matter how bad their products get[when did they stop having bad products? I NEED A NEW ONE TO MAKE FUN OF], they will always have yaoi in their hearts and souls.

Mostly because IMGUR MUST SAY SO... they may have, already.
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Postby ShadowDragons » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:34 pm

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What if he happens to be an attractive feminine emo boy? Then you would be missing out.

Oh no, it's turning into the time Thafoo wanted be homosexual, Maldo wanted me to be asexual, and New Haven wanted be to be bi-curious. Guess I'm a sort of boy toy.

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Postby Red Star Union » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:34 pm

Luveria wrote:
Regnum Dominae wrote:Do I really have to explain this? It should be quite obvious.

Conscription is bad. Forcing people into the military is bad. Forcing children to dedicate their entire childhoods to preparing for forced military service is even worse.


Especially for the crime of having been adopted by gay parents.

I'm talking about the un-adopted... The kids nobody wants or nobody can afford to take care of. If they'd rather sit in an orphanage, whatever.
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Postby Olivaero » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:34 pm

Seriong wrote:
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We're talking about children. Children between the ages of 1-8, specifically. Their minds are still developing and growing. When they understand sex, they will be genetically attracted to either males or females. Until then, if they see two male parents of theirs, they might think that's how they're supposed to be.

"If they see a female and male parent of theirs, they might think that's how they are supposed to be, and thus deny their own sexuality"

Well it's okay for gay people to deny their own sexuality of course.
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Postby Luxew » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:34 pm

Red Star Union wrote:
Meritocratic States wrote:
There's more for life to offer than wasting your life away joining a military.

Just saying.

These are orphans we're talking about... If they get adopted by civilians, fine, if they don't, then they go in. It really wouldn't be that bad.

No. Why not embrace them to the arts, give them something other than to do than how to practice how to kill. Once the kid grows up, it is their choice if they want to enter the military.
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Postby Sperostet » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:35 pm

The Star Corporation wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Outlaw Russia.


Unfortunatly, they are a nuclear-capable superpower.... and no matter how bad their products get[when did they stop having bad products? I NEED A NEW ONE TO MAKE FUN OF], they will always have yaoi in their hearts and souls.

Mostly because IMGUR MUST SAY SO... they may have, already.


We can outlaw a country?

Outlaw China and America
Please tell me, I might get upset but it will help


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Postby Neo Rome Republic » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:35 pm

The Star Corporation wrote:
Ifreann wrote:Outlaw Russia.


Unfortunatly, they are a nuclear-capable superpower.... and no matter how bad their products get[when did they stop having bad products? I NEED A NEW ONE TO MAKE FUN OF], they will always have yaoi in their hearts and souls.

Mostly because IMGUR MUST SAY SO... they may have, already.

Don't you mean great power?
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Postby Red Star Union » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:35 pm

Luveria wrote:
Red Star Union wrote:These are orphans we're talking about... If they get adopted by civilians, fine, if they don't, then they go in. It really wouldn't be that bad.


Would you like to have been raised by the military?

Maybe if I didn't actually have any better of a life.
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Postby The Star Corporation » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:36 pm

Luveria wrote:
Red Star Union wrote:These are orphans we're talking about... If they get adopted by civilians, fine, if they don't, then they go in. It really wouldn't be that bad.


Would you like to have been raised by the military?


Seeing as how... I have certain "developmental issues", I couldn't see why not. The pluses are there, the negatives are possible sociopathy, psychopathy and other psychotic tendencies. But oh well, cool toys. [Yes, I am the same guy that said I wouldn't care if my child got the death penatly... but only if they deserve it, well, I would care, but I wouldn't say no, my mother told me I was "heartless". That situation was less than amusing.]
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Postby The Sotoan Union » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:36 pm

You cannot turn children gay. If a straight child sees gay parents, the child will remain straight. Because gay people still grew up with straight parents.

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Postby Red Star Union » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:37 pm

Luxew wrote:
Red Star Union wrote:These are orphans we're talking about... If they get adopted by civilians, fine, if they don't, then they go in. It really wouldn't be that bad.

No. Why not embrace them to the arts, give them something other than to do than how to practice how to kill. Once the kid grows up, it is their choice if they want to enter the military.

They already have conscription for about one or two years anyway. Russia needs to have a strong military as well, they've got a lot of land to watch over, and the US everywhere else.
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Postby San » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:37 pm

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San wrote:did you mean to have a rimshot follow that line

Image

There you go. :p

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Postby Regnum Dominae » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:38 pm

The Sotoan Union wrote:You cannot turn children gay. If a straight child sees gay parents, the child will remain straight. Because gay people still grew up with straight parents.

Thank you. It's sad that so many people can't grasp this basic fact.

And before anyone says "LOLOLOL HOMOSEXUALITY IS A CHOICE!!11!!":
http://communities.washingtontimes.com/ ... e-says-no/
http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/16/opinion/h ... -a-choice/
http://www.truthwinsout.org/opinion/2011/10/19114/
http://io9.com/5967426/scientists-confi ... n-the-womb
http://billfleege.blogspot.com/2011/06/ ... ty-is.html
http://classes.biology.ucsd.edu/bisp194 ... d_2001.pdf
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Postby Aeken » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:38 pm

Red Star Union wrote:
Luxew wrote:No. Why not embrace them to the arts, give them something other than to do than how to practice how to kill. Once the kid grows up, it is their choice if they want to enter the military.

They already have conscription for about one or two years anyway. Russia needs to have a strong military as well, they've got a lot of land to watch over, and the US everywhere else.

That's horrible justification.

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Postby Neo Rome Republic » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:38 pm

San wrote:
NEO Rome Republic wrote:
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There you go. :p

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Postby Fascist Russian Empire » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:38 pm

The Sotoan Union wrote:You cannot turn children gay. If a straight child sees gay parents, the child will remain straight. Because gay people still grew up with straight parents.

Exactly. But, some people are too ignorant to understand it and say "But the Bible says...!!!!!" Ugh.

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Postby Olivaero » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:40 pm

Fascist Russian Empire wrote:
The Sotoan Union wrote:You cannot turn children gay. If a straight child sees gay parents, the child will remain straight. Because gay people still grew up with straight parents.

Exactly. But, some people are too ignorant to understand it and say "But the Bible says...!!!!!" Ugh.

The bible doesn't say gay parents will turn their children gay...
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