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Postby Fartsniffage » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:27 pm

New Laikland wrote:
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Do these hypothetical children of yours have no contact with the outside world?


They can have any amount, why?


Then you may want to re-think your previous statement.

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Postby Fascist Russian Empire » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:27 pm

New Laikland wrote:
Othelos wrote:Even if that was true, they're still going to end up the way they naturally are...


Unless influenced otherwise.

Nobody is going to force people to be gay. The sooner you understand this, the better. If people are attracted to the opposite sex, they ain't gonna think that they are homosexuals. Seriously, anyone who has actually hit puberty should know that.

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Postby Luxew » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:27 pm

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Postby Utceforp » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:28 pm

Comanchia wrote:This is stupid, this means the government can take kids from their two fathers or mothers, who could possibly be treating their kids better than the radical homophobes down the block.

Unless they're radical heterophobes, (which I doubt) the two fathers or mothers are definitely better parents than any given radical homophobe down the block.
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Postby Greater-London » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:28 pm

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Othelos wrote:Why would it matter if a child wonders if he or she is gay, anyway?


It doesn't. Like I've been saying (but everyone here seems to want to deny and refuse), you are BORN with your sexuality. Now, being exposed to influence of another that you aren't, MAY OR MAY NOT make the child think that that's theirs.


Well then you don't have a point. Your accepting that your sexuality is genetic. Your saying its okay if a child wonders if they are gay or not. Your reasoning for not wanting gay parents to raise their children is because you think their is a possibility that it may cause a child to question their own sexuality. However as you've established its okay to question your sexuality and its determined by your genes then your complete argument is rubbish.
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Postby Othelos » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:28 pm

New Laikland wrote:
Othelos wrote:Even if that was true, they're still going to end up the way they naturally are...


Unless influenced otherwise.

Right, right. By that logic, everyone raised by heterosexual parents would turn out heterosexual.
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Postby San » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:28 pm

Utceforp wrote:
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That's exactly why many religions often have a special exemption that leaves out lesbians while hating gays.

I should start a religion banning any kind of sex other than lesbian sex. I mean, heterosexual sex involves guys, and is therefore still a little bit gay. :p

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Postby Luveria » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:28 pm

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Awkward.. I'm a boy

:palm: Just lost the lovey-dovey feeling.
I was being figurative, not literal. But you earned respect anyways.


What if he happens to be an attractive feminine emo boy? Then you would be missing out.

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Postby God Kefka » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:28 pm

New Molsona wrote:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/09/russia-gay-parents-debate-_n_4072968.html
Russia is taking another step in the right direction of the morality that the rest of Europe is so lacking in. Thanks to their lawmakers, children there could be able to escape from a life of being the spawn of sinners. Your thoughts on this NSG.
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well... if it helps protect some kids from discrimination...
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Postby Mozzissey » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:28 pm

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:28 pm

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Imperializt Russia wrote:Two emo lesbians, and you've got yourself a party.


Now I've got a craving.

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Postby Ainin » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:28 pm

God Kefka wrote:
New Molsona wrote:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/09/russia-gay-parents-debate-_n_4072968.html
Russia is taking another step in the right direction of the morality that the rest of Europe is so lacking in. Thanks to their lawmakers, children there could be able to escape from a life of being the spawn of sinners. Your thoughts on this NSG.
I'm starting to really like Russia


well... if it helps protect some kids from discrimination...

At what cost?
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Postby Luveria » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:29 pm

Mozzissey wrote:All that snow they get is turning their brains to mush.


Have you been smoking from the burning bush?

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Postby The Sotoan Union » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:29 pm

God Kefka wrote:
New Molsona wrote:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/09/russia-gay-parents-debate-_n_4072968.html
Russia is taking another step in the right direction of the morality that the rest of Europe is so lacking in. Thanks to their lawmakers, children there could be able to escape from a life of being the spawn of sinners. Your thoughts on this NSG.
I'm starting to really like Russia


well... if it helps protect some kids from discrimination...

It's literally furthering discrimination.

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Postby Regnum Dominae » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:29 pm

God Kefka wrote:
New Molsona wrote:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/09/russia-gay-parents-debate-_n_4072968.html
Russia is taking another step in the right direction of the morality that the rest of Europe is so lacking in. Thanks to their lawmakers, children there could be able to escape from a life of being the spawn of sinners. Your thoughts on this NSG.
I'm starting to really like Russia


well... if it helps protect some kids from discrimination...

How would this protect kids from discrimination? That makes no sense.
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Postby Red Star Union » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:29 pm

No kidding though, those orphans don't have very happy lives, putting them into military schools may actually be a pretty smart idea. After they are old enough to go into the actual military, their lives will have some worth, rather than sitting in an orphanage forever.
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Postby Luveria » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:29 pm

God Kefka wrote:
New Molsona wrote:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/09/russia-gay-parents-debate-_n_4072968.html
Russia is taking another step in the right direction of the morality that the rest of Europe is so lacking in. Thanks to their lawmakers, children there could be able to escape from a life of being the spawn of sinners. Your thoughts on this NSG.
I'm starting to really like Russia


well... if it helps protect some kids from discrimination...


Discrimination doesn't protect people from discrimination.

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Postby Olivaero » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:30 pm

God Kefka wrote:
New Molsona wrote:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/09/russia-gay-parents-debate-_n_4072968.html
Russia is taking another step in the right direction of the morality that the rest of Europe is so lacking in. Thanks to their lawmakers, children there could be able to escape from a life of being the spawn of sinners. Your thoughts on this NSG.
I'm starting to really like Russia


well... if it helps protect some kids from discrimination...

God damn that's some epic level victim blaming you've got there "Gay people and their families face discrimination... lets take away their children so that only the gay people do now!"
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Postby Sperostet » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:30 pm

God Kefka wrote:
New Molsona wrote:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/09/russia-gay-parents-debate-_n_4072968.html
Russia is taking another step in the right direction of the morality that the rest of Europe is so lacking in. Thanks to their lawmakers, children there could be able to escape from a life of being the spawn of sinners. Your thoughts on this NSG.
I'm starting to really like Russia


well... if it helps protect some kids from discrimination...


They are already being discriminated, I don't get it.
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:30 pm

Red Star Union wrote:No kidding though, those orphans don't have very happy lives, putting them into military schools may actually be a pretty smart idea. After they are old enough to go into the actual military, their lives will have some worth, rather than sitting in an orphanage forever.

That's a terrible idea.
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Postby Luxew » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:30 pm

Luveria wrote:
Luxew wrote: :palm: Just lost the lovey-dovey feeling.
I was being figurative, not literal. But you earned respect anyways.


What if he happens to be an attractive feminine emo boy? Then you would be missing out.

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Postby Utceforp » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:30 pm

Mozzissey wrote:All that snow they get is turning their brains to mush.

Denmark, Sweden, Norway and Canada all seem to be fine with the ebul gayz, so I don't think it's the snow that's causing it.
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Postby Red Star Union » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:30 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:
Red Star Union wrote:No kidding though, those orphans don't have very happy lives, putting them into military schools may actually be a pretty smart idea. After they are old enough to go into the actual military, their lives will have some worth, rather than sitting in an orphanage forever.

That's a terrible idea.

Why?
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Postby San » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:30 pm

God Kefka wrote:
New Molsona wrote:http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/10/09/russia-gay-parents-debate-_n_4072968.html
Russia is taking another step in the right direction of the morality that the rest of Europe is so lacking in. Thanks to their lawmakers, children there could be able to escape from a life of being the spawn of sinners. Your thoughts on this NSG.
I'm starting to really like Russia


well... if it helps protect some kids from discrimination...

did you mean to have a rimshot follow that line
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Postby Meritocratic States » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:31 pm

Red Star Union wrote:No kidding though, those orphans don't have very happy lives, putting them into military schools may actually be a pretty smart idea. After they are old enough to go into the actual military, their lives will have some worth, rather than sitting in an orphanage forever.


There's more for life to offer than wasting your life away joining a military.

Just saying.
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