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Postby Tsmida Eri » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:07 pm

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It's immoral, unnatural, sinful, and perverted. There, I gave you 4 reasons.

Explain why.


There's a reason why homosexuals can't reproduce with each other.
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Postby New Laikland » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:07 pm

NEO Rome Republic wrote:You know, every time I've red what an anti LGBT person says, its like you guys just forget about the existence of sperm banks.


I don't get how anyone can be anti LGB, it's just pointlessly retarded.

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New Laikland wrote:I see no issues with this. I see a problem with gays raising children, while not seeing a problem with gays themselves. Being exposed to homosexuality could alter the child's own views, which wouldn't be all that great. Since heterosexuality is the majority sexuality, and the "proper" one (Meaning, that's how to reproduce), that can be a bad thing. If a person is gay, then they'll be gay, since they're born with it and all. Otherwise, this would just force it on them.

I'm pretty sure plenty of heterosexual parents have given birth to gay children. If everyone grew up just like their parents then we'd still have the values of the people living hundreds of years ago.
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Postby Ainin » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:07 pm

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Greater-London wrote:Really hope your trolling ... Taking children away from stable families because you disagree with the lifestyle of one of the parents... really not cool.

What do you mean stable, these "families" are lacking of either a mother or father. Children need both parents to properly devolop

Bullshit.

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Postby Luveria » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:07 pm

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The spawn of sinners...? Are you aware that gay people are born to straight people? You're saying straight couples who have straight sex and end up giving birth to gay kids are sinners themselves. :palm:

And that is why one should never take Theocrats seriously.


So gay people come into existence when a mommy sinner and a daddy sinner make babies. What a ludicrous worldview.

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Postby Regnum Dominae » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:07 pm

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Zolinde wrote:Explain why.


There's a reason why homosexuals can't reproduce with each other.

How is that even relevant?
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Postby Fascist Russian Empire » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:07 pm

Tsmida Eri wrote:
Luxew wrote:No. It isn't sin in plenty of people's eyes, including my own. Next reason?


It's immoral, unnatural, sinful, and perverted. There, I gave you 4 reasons.

Opinion, blatantly false, opinion, and opinion. And, honestly, nobody gives two shits if you find homosexuality to be disgusting or wrong; doesn't give you the right to oppress people.

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Postby Zolinde » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:07 pm

Tsmida Eri wrote:
Zolinde wrote:Explain why.


There's a reason why homosexuals can't reproduce with each other.

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Postby Roski » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:07 pm

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New Laikland wrote:I see no issues with this. I see a problem with gays raising children, while not seeing a problem with gays themselves. Being exposed to homosexuality could alter the child's own views, which wouldn't be all that great. Since heterosexuality is the majority sexuality, and the "proper" one (Meaning, that's how to reproduce), that can be a bad thing. If a person is gay, then they'll be gay, since they're born with it and all. Otherwise, this would just force it on them.

I'm pretty sure plenty of heterosexual parents have given birth to gay children. If everyone grew up just like their parents then we'd still have the values of the people living hundreds of years ago.


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Postby Luxew » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:08 pm

Tsmida Eri wrote:
Zolinde wrote:Explain why.


There's a reason why homosexuals can't reproduce with each other.

*cough* Source *cough*
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Postby Utceforp » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:08 pm

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Beta Test wrote: :palm: :palm:
With your wonderfully sound logic, everyone should be straight because 40 years ago everyone was raised by straight parents.


Since people are born genetically with their sexuality, I don't understand your logic here.

Since people are born genetically with their sexuality, I don't understand your logic here.
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Postby Beta Test » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:08 pm

New Laikland wrote:
Beta Test wrote: :palm: :palm:
With your wonderfully sound logic, everyone should be straight because 40 years ago everyone was raised by straight parents.


Since people are born genetically with their sexuality, I don't understand your logic here.

You say that gays shouldn't raise children because then their children will turn out gay. If children adopt their parent's sexuality, then everyone should be straight because so many years ago only straight people were raising children.
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Postby Othelos » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:08 pm

New Laikland wrote:I see no issues with this. I see a problem with gays raising children, while not seeing a problem with gays themselves. Being exposed to homosexuality could alter the child's own views, which wouldn't be all that great. Since heterosexuality is the majority sexuality, and the "proper" one (Meaning, that's how to reproduce), that can be a bad thing. If a person is gay, then they'll be gay, since they're born with it and all. Otherwise, this would just force it on them.

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Postby Imperializt Russia » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:08 pm

New Molsona wrote:
Greater-London wrote:Really hope your trolling ... Taking children away from stable families because you disagree with the lifestyle of one of the parents... really not cool.

What do you mean stable, these "families" are lacking of either a mother or father. Children need both parents to properly devolop

Taking them away from two of one and shoving them into an adoption centre where they will have neither for several years will not help that.

You going to take the children from all the single hetero mothers too? Separated parents?
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Postby Luveria » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:08 pm

Tsmida Eri wrote:
Zolinde wrote:Explain why.


There's a reason why homosexuals can't reproduce with each other.


I'm waiting for you to start arguing that infertile straight couples should be denied marriage rights, or couples who don't want kids shouldn't be allowed to get married, since it's only for children according to you.
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Postby Ainin » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:09 pm

Tsmida Eri wrote:It's immoral,
Morality is subjective.

unnatural,
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Homosexual_behavior_in_animals

sinful,
Who cares?

and perverted.
What is generally accepted as right isn't necessarily right.
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Postby Luveria » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:09 pm

Tsmida Eri wrote:
Zolinde wrote:Explain why.


There's a reason why homosexuals can't reproduce with each other.


I'm pretty sure they can.

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Postby New Laikland » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:09 pm

Utceforp wrote:I'm pretty sure plenty of heterosexual parents have given birth to gay children. If everyone grew up just like their parents then we'd still have the values of the people living hundreds of years ago.


Yes, they have. That's my point. Like I just said above, you're born with your sexuality genetically. From a natural point of view, we need males and females to reproduce (while scientifically it is possible with technology, it's impractical to sustain a population on it at this point), but there's no problem with people being gay.

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Postby Utceforp » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:09 pm

Tsmida Eri wrote:
Zolinde wrote:Explain why.


There's a reason why homosexuals can't reproduce with each other.

And that reason is the fact that the two people who love each other both have the same sex organs. It's more to do with biology than it has to do with "God cursed them trololol!"
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Postby Neo Rome Republic » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:09 pm

Luveria wrote:
NEO Rome Republic wrote:And that is why one should never take Theocrats seriously.


So gay people come into existence when a mommy sinner and a daddy sinner make babies. What a ludicrous worldview.

Indeed. I find just as silly as you do.
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Postby Neo Rome Republic » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:09 pm

New Laikland wrote:
Utceforp wrote:I'm pretty sure plenty of heterosexual parents have given birth to gay children. If everyone grew up just like their parents then we'd still have the values of the people living hundreds of years ago.


Yes, they have. That's my point. Like I just said above, you're born with your sexuality genetically. From a natural point of view, we need males and females to reproduce (while scientifically it is possible with technology, it's impractical to sustain a population on it at this point), but there's no problem with people being gay.

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Postby Utceforp » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:10 pm

New Laikland wrote:
Utceforp wrote:I'm pretty sure plenty of heterosexual parents have given birth to gay children. If everyone grew up just like their parents then we'd still have the values of the people living hundreds of years ago.


Yes, they have. That's my point. Like I just said above, you're born with your sexuality genetically. From a natural point of view, we need males and females to reproduce (while scientifically it is possible with technology, it's impractical to sustain a population on it at this point), but there's no problem with people being gay.

Yes, but why does that homosexuals raising children is a bad idea?
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Postby The Ruivan Empire » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:10 pm

this is just sick, any couple no matter their orientation should be allowed to have or raise children if they want to. Russia is taking a HUGE step backwards by about 100 years if this bill passes i hope those lawmakers realize this. if a couple are caring and responsible they should not have to worry about children being taken away from them just because they are not MR. and MS.
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Postby Beta Test » Thu Dec 12, 2013 6:10 pm

New Laikland wrote:
Utceforp wrote:I'm pretty sure plenty of heterosexual parents have given birth to gay children. If everyone grew up just like their parents then we'd still have the values of the people living hundreds of years ago.


Yes, they have. That's my point. Like I just said above, you're born with your sexuality genetically. From a natural point of view, we need males and females to reproduce (while scientifically it is possible with technology, it's impractical to sustain a population on it at this point), but there's no problem with people being gay.

So then why are you opposed to gays raising children if sexuality is genetically based?
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