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Postby Valcouria » Wed Dec 11, 2013 2:46 pm

Fascist Russian Empire wrote:
Valcouria wrote:I call them as I see them; you and your kind have pulled that card for several years now, and frankly it is disgusting far worse than homophobia ever was. You try to pressure people into either changing their minds or cowing them into silence.

Yeah fucking right.
I'm the one pressuring people to change when society hates me, when everyone else are the ones that are talking shit about me and who I am? What a fucking ridiculous sentiment. Oh, and you can stop with the blatantly offensive "your kind" shit now.

You have the choice to attempt to refrain from your choice, but you do not. Ergo, in my opinion, you are only subjecting yourself to such torment.
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Valcouria wrote:I call them as I see them; you and your kind have pulled that card for several years now, and frankly it is disgusting far worse than homophobia ever was. You try to pressure people into either changing their minds or cowing them into silence.

Pressuring people to change their minds is worse than depression, alienation, suicide, rape, assault, murder, and genocide?

There is a response here, but for the sake of decency I will abstain from putting it here.
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Postby Fascist Russian Empire » Wed Dec 11, 2013 2:46 pm

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Threlizdun wrote:Yes, you are a homophobe. If you would be outraged by what happened in India. There is no reason to support criminalizing homosexuality other than homophobia.


Bullshit. Homosexuality has a very bad effect on society. It is a degenerate and decadent lifestyle. Check out the STD and HIV stats. Still I would not ban homosexuals. Like I would not ban any other insane people. Help them instead and do what Russia did. Ban the gay propaganda towards children.

Homophobia? Really? Do you seriously think that people have some insane level of fear of homosexuals?

I call fucking bullshit. Homosexuality ain't a God damn lifestyle; people don't choose sexuality. HIV and AIDS affect all people regardless of sexual orientation, and sexuality ain't a God damn fucking mental disease. Oh, and advocating rights is fucking propaganda now?!
No. Just fucking no.

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Postby Seriong » Wed Dec 11, 2013 2:47 pm

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Valcouria wrote:I call them as I see them; you and your kind have pulled that card for several years now, and frankly it is disgusting far worse than homophobia ever was. You try to pressure people into either changing their minds or cowing them into silence.

Calling a group of people, "your kind" is VERY dehumanizing. I am shocked that anyone can say something like that. You ought to be ashamed of yourself.

Just going to step in here, he meant "Pro-Gay rights people". Not gay people.
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The Independent States wrote:Um, perhaps you haven't heard that mercury poisons people? :palm:

Perhaps you've heard that chlorine is poisonous and sodium is a volatile explosive?

Drawkland wrote:I think it delegitimizes true cases of sexual assault, like real dangerous cases being dismissed, "Oh it's only sexual assault"
Like racism. If everything's "racist," then you can't tell what really is racist.

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Postby Threlizdun » Wed Dec 11, 2013 2:47 pm

Northfront wrote:Bullshit. Homosexuality has a very bad effect on society.
[citation needed]
It is a degenerate and decadent lifestyle.
[citation needed]
Check out the STD and HIV stats.
which heterosexuals also have
Still I would not ban homosexuals. Like I would not ban any other insane people. Help them instead and do what Russia did. Ban the gay propaganda towards children.
Except the mental health community has firmly rejected that it's a mental disorder since the sixties. You still seem to be implying you know more about mental health than they do

Homophobia? Really? Do you seriously think that people have some insane level of fear of homosexuals?
Well you clearly do
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Postby Capital Zealand » Wed Dec 11, 2013 2:47 pm

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Aeken wrote:You discriminate against homosexuals because you advocate less rights being applied to them. Ergo, you are homophobic.

I don't discriminate against homosexuals. I just don't believe in gay rights. You people are making great leaps that don't make sense. Just because one person says, "Death to the gays!" doesn't mean everyone else does.

If you don't support gay rights alongside straight rights, that makes you a homophobe. Get it through your thick head.
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Postby Fascist Russian Empire » Wed Dec 11, 2013 2:48 pm

Valcouria wrote:
Fascist Russian Empire wrote:Yeah fucking right.
I'm the one pressuring people to change when society hates me, when everyone else are the ones that are talking shit about me and who I am? What a fucking ridiculous sentiment. Oh, and you can stop with the blatantly offensive "your kind" shit now.

You have the choice to attempt to refrain from your choice, but you do not. Ergo, in my opinion, you are only subjecting yourself to such torment.

Homosexuality. Isn't. A. Fucking. Choice. Science proved that in the fucking 1930s; and any homosexual can tell you that they didn't choose their sexuality.

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Postby Capital Zealand » Wed Dec 11, 2013 2:49 pm

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Capital Zealand wrote:Fixed it! :)

Yes, that's true

And that's you.
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Postby Dakran » Wed Dec 11, 2013 2:50 pm

This is really escalating fast. Come on y'all, take a short break before you say something that will get you in trouble with the mods.
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Postby Regnum Dominae » Wed Dec 11, 2013 2:50 pm

Valcouria wrote:
Fascist Russian Empire wrote:Yeah fucking right.
I'm the one pressuring people to change when society hates me, when everyone else are the ones that are talking shit about me and who I am? What a fucking ridiculous sentiment. Oh, and you can stop with the blatantly offensive "your kind" shit now.

You have the choice to attempt to refrain from your choice, but you do not. Ergo, in my opinion, you are only subjecting yourself to such torment.

It's not a "choice".

I sure as hell didn't choose to be gay. When did you choose to be straight?
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Postby Valcouria » Wed Dec 11, 2013 2:50 pm

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Dangelia wrote:Exactly. Frankly, it gets very annoying. Just because I don't support gay rights, you start assuming that I'm the son of Hitler and Stalin and was taught by the devil to kill gays. And even if you don't believe that, you certainly sound like it.


You support denying basic human rights to people. That singlehandedly crosses you off the "vaguely decent human being" list.

The ability to marry is not a right, it is a privilege. Frankly, those rejects who marry more than twice should be barred from ever doing it again.
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Valcouria wrote:I call them as I see them; you and your kind have pulled that card for several years now, and frankly it is disgusting far worse than homophobia ever was. You try to pressure people into either changing their minds or cowing them into silence.

Calling a group of people, "your kind" is VERY dehumanizing. I am shocked that anyone can say something like that. You ought to be ashamed of yourself.

And yet...I am not. As previously stated, I have no problem calling things as I see them...political correctness be damned.
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Postby Threlizdun » Wed Dec 11, 2013 2:50 pm

Valcouria wrote:
Fascist Russian Empire wrote:Yeah fucking right.
I'm the one pressuring people to change when society hates me, when everyone else are the ones that are talking shit about me and who I am? What a fucking ridiculous sentiment. Oh, and you can stop with the blatantly offensive "your kind" shit now.

You have the choice to attempt to refrain from your choice, but you do not. Ergo, in my opinion, you are only subjecting yourself to such torment.
People choose to be something that is hated and despised just for the hell of it and seem to lack any knowledge of ever making that choice? Yeah, that makes a hell of a lot of sense.
Threlizdun wrote:Pressuring people to change their minds is worse than depression, alienation, suicide, rape, assault, murder, and genocide?

There is a response here, but for the sake of decency I will abstain from putting it here.

When you say bullshit about just trying to convince people to believe different things is worse than something that has resulted in murder and genocide, then be prepared to be called out on your bullshit.
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Postby Fascist Russian Empire » Wed Dec 11, 2013 2:50 pm

Dangelia wrote:
Fascist Russian Empire wrote:Yeah fucking right.
I'm the one pressuring people to change when society hates me, when everyone else are the ones that are talking shit about me and who I am? What a fucking ridiculous sentiment. Oh, and you can stop with the blatantly offensive "your kind" shit now.

I don't hate you. The sooner you can get that through your thick head, the better.

1: I ain't saying that you, as a person, do. I'm talking about the majority of society. If you claim that people don't hate homosexuals, then move to the American South and listen to some of the shit people say here. I get called a 'fag' by about five people a day every day.
2: 'thick head' Nice, petty insult.

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Postby Seriong » Wed Dec 11, 2013 2:50 pm

Valcouria wrote:
Fascist Russian Empire wrote:Yeah fucking right.
I'm the one pressuring people to change when society hates me, when everyone else are the ones that are talking shit about me and who I am? What a fucking ridiculous sentiment. Oh, and you can stop with the blatantly offensive "your kind" shit now.

You have the choice to attempt to refrain from your choice, but you do not. Ergo, in my opinion, you are only subjecting yourself to such torment.
What choice is that exactly?

Also, people need to calm down, partially so this doesn't get locked and inspected, and partially so we don't scare off the only homophobe, because without them this is incredibly boring. As for Mr. Homophobe, you need to tone down your language "Deranged" and "Insane" in terms of talking about sexuality tends to draw the mod's eye.
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The Independent States wrote:Um, perhaps you haven't heard that mercury poisons people? :palm:

Perhaps you've heard that chlorine is poisonous and sodium is a volatile explosive?

Drawkland wrote:I think it delegitimizes true cases of sexual assault, like real dangerous cases being dismissed, "Oh it's only sexual assault"
Like racism. If everything's "racist," then you can't tell what really is racist.

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Postby Capital Zealand » Wed Dec 11, 2013 2:50 pm

Valcouria wrote:
Fascist Russian Empire wrote:Nice strawman.

I call them as I see them; you and your kind have pulled that card for several years now, and frankly it is disgusting far worse than homophobia ever was. You try to pressure people into either changing their minds or cowing them into silence.

Bad argumentation is not even a moral question, and you claim it's worse than discrimination? Well, the latter belongs to the former, so...
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Dangelia wrote:Yes, that's true

And that's you.

And that's false. :)

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Postby AiliailiA » Wed Dec 11, 2013 2:51 pm

Northfront wrote: Homosexuality has a very bad effect on society. It is a degenerate and decadent lifestyle. Check out the STD and HIV stats.


Almost half of the people who have HIV/AIDS are women. Good luck blaming that on gays!
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Postby Salandriagado » Wed Dec 11, 2013 2:51 pm

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Threlizdun wrote:Yes, you are a homophobe. If you would be outraged by what happened in India. There is no reason to support criminalizing homosexuality other than homophobia.


Bullshit. Homosexuality has a very bad effect on society.


Source.

It is a degenerate and decadent lifestyle.


Source.

Check out the STD and HIV stats.


Not noticeably different from any other group of comparable sexual activity levels?

Still I would not ban homosexuals. Like I would not ban any other insane people.


They aren't insane - DSM5.

Help them instead and do what Russia did.


That isn't "helping".

Ban the gay propaganda towards children.


You mean ban telling children not to torture each other for their sexual preferences?

Homophobia? Really? Do you seriously think that people have some insane level of fear of homosexuals?


Yes. Absolutely. You may not even realise it, but yes.


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Fascist Russian Empire wrote:Yeah fucking right.
I'm the one pressuring people to change when society hates me, when everyone else are the ones that are talking shit about me and who I am? What a fucking ridiculous sentiment. Oh, and you can stop with the blatantly offensive "your kind" shit now.

I don't hate you. The sooner you can get that through your thick head, the better.


You want to strip them of their rights. Why you want to do that is pretty much irrelevant.
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Anachronous Rex wrote:Good thing most a majority of people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

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Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

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Postby Dakran » Wed Dec 11, 2013 2:51 pm

Valcouria wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
You support denying basic human rights to people. That singlehandedly crosses you off the "vaguely decent human being" list.

The ability to marry is not a right, it is a privilege. Frankly, those rejects who marry more than twice should be barred from ever doing it again.
Dakran wrote:Calling a group of people, "your kind" is VERY dehumanizing. I am shocked that anyone can say something like that. You ought to be ashamed of yourself.

And yet...I am not. As previously stated, I have no problem calling things as I see them...political correctness be damned.


This isn't about being politically correct. This is about NOT being a jackass and having respect towards other people, which you clearly don't have.
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Valcouria wrote:You have the choice to attempt to refrain from your choice, but you do not. Ergo, in my opinion, you are only subjecting yourself to such torment.

Homosexuality. Isn't. A. Fucking. Choice. Science proved that in the fucking 1930s; and any homosexual can tell you that they didn't choose their sexuality.

Considering the basic nature of humanity is predisposed to be heterosexual, and that bisexuality 'exists,' I disagree vehemently; it is a choice, and one that is freely made. The problem is you and the 'scientists' you speak of have put it into your head that it is not, just to make you feel better about said choice.
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Postby Capital Zealand » Wed Dec 11, 2013 2:52 pm

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Valcouria wrote:I call them as I see them; you and your kind have pulled that card for several years now, and frankly it is disgusting far worse than homophobia ever was. You try to pressure people into either changing their minds or cowing them into silence.

Exactly. Frankly, it gets very annoying. Just because I don't support gay rights, you start assuming that I'm the son of Hitler and Stalin and was taught by the devil to kill gays. And even if you don't believe that, you certainly sound like it.

No, I assume you're a homophobe who is taught by your parents that the LGBT people are inferior to straights and cisgenders.
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Postby Seriong » Wed Dec 11, 2013 2:52 pm

Valcouria wrote:
Salandriagado wrote:
You support denying basic human rights to people. That singlehandedly crosses you off the "vaguely decent human being" list.

The ability to marry is not a right, it is a privilege. Frankly, those rejects who marry more than twice should be barred from ever doing it again.

So, the ability to visit your loved ones on their deathbed is something to be denied to people, over something they cannot control? The tax benefits of being one party, should be denied, because they aren't pure enough in your eyes? Friend, marriage is a lot more than a ceremony and a certificate, your ignorance of this shows your inexperience.
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Perhaps you've heard that chlorine is poisonous and sodium is a volatile explosive?

Drawkland wrote:I think it delegitimizes true cases of sexual assault, like real dangerous cases being dismissed, "Oh it's only sexual assault"
Like racism. If everything's "racist," then you can't tell what really is racist.

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Postby Threlizdun » Wed Dec 11, 2013 2:53 pm

Valcouria wrote:The ability to marry is not a right, it is a privilege.

Nope, international law says its a right.
Frankly, those rejects who marry more than twice should be barred from ever doing it again.
I guess you have a hard-on for human suffering
And yet...I am not. As previously stated, I have no problem calling things as I see them...political correctness be damned.
And we have no problem calling you out on how nonsensical your statements are
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Valcouria wrote:
Fascist Russian Empire wrote:Homosexuality. Isn't. A. Fucking. Choice. Science proved that in the fucking 1930s; and any homosexual can tell you that they didn't choose their sexuality.

Considering the basic nature of humanity is predisposed to be heterosexual,


Liar.

and that bisexuality 'exists,'


In some people, not others.

I disagree vehemently; it is a choice, and one that is freely made. The problem is you and the 'scientists' you speak of have put it into your head that it is not, just to make you feel better about said choice.


Go on then. Try it. Try pretending to be something that you are not, day in, day out, for the rest of your life.
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Anachronous Rex wrote:Good thing most a majority of people aren't so small-minded, and frightened of other's sexuality.

Over 40% (including me), are, so I fixed the post for accuracy.

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Salandriagado wrote:
Notice that the link is to the notes from a university course on probability. You clearly have nothing beyond the most absurdly simplistic understanding of the subject.
By choosing 1, you no longer have 0 probability of choosing 1. End of subject.

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Postby Capital Zealand » Wed Dec 11, 2013 2:54 pm

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Threlizdun wrote:Yes, you are a homophobe. If you would be outraged by what happened in India. There is no reason to support criminalizing homosexuality other than homophobia.


Bullshit. Homosexuality has a very bad effect on society. It is a degenerate and decadent lifestyle. Check out the STD and HIV stats. Still I would not ban homosexuals. Like I would not ban any other insane people. Help them instead and do what Russia did. Ban the gay propaganda towards children.

Homophobia? Really? Do you seriously think that people have some insane level of fear of homosexuals?

Heterosexuality has a very bad effect on society. It is a degenerate and decadent lifestyle. Check out the STD and HIV stats. Still I would not ban heterosexuals. Like I would not ban any other insane people. Help them instead and do what Russia did. Ban the straight propaganda towards children.
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Postby Seriong » Wed Dec 11, 2013 2:54 pm

Valcouria wrote:
Fascist Russian Empire wrote:Homosexuality. Isn't. A. Fucking. Choice. Science proved that in the fucking 1930s; and any homosexual can tell you that they didn't choose their sexuality.

Considering the basic nature of humanity is predisposed to be heterosexual, and that bisexuality 'exists,' I disagree vehemently; it is a choice, and one that is freely made. The problem is you and the 'scientists' you speak of have put it into your head that it is not, just to make you feel better about said choice.

So, you don't know how statistics, or logic work. You also don't know what the words 'choice' and 'predisposed' mean. That's going to hurt you a bit here.
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The Independent States wrote:Um, perhaps you haven't heard that mercury poisons people? :palm:

Perhaps you've heard that chlorine is poisonous and sodium is a volatile explosive?

Drawkland wrote:I think it delegitimizes true cases of sexual assault, like real dangerous cases being dismissed, "Oh it's only sexual assault"
Like racism. If everything's "racist," then you can't tell what really is racist.

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