India recriminalises homosexuality

[The Roman Imperial Republic]

Bestiality: bad because the animal cannot consent.
Rape: bad because the victim does not consent.
Sex with children: bad because the child cannot consent.
Homosexualty: ?
Insest: ?

The latter two both happen between consenting individuals, and there is no reason to prevent those consenting individuals from partaking in them.

And we found the incest supporter.

Face the reality. Normal people do not do that stuff. It is mental disorder.

(I am guessing Elijah and Milo Peters will give you a nightmare.[Identical..Twin..Gay..Pornstars])

Incest is not a mental disorder, nor is homosexuality. Relations between direct family members are wrong, only because of the 20-36% mortality rate of this type of incest. Between cousins, a tradition dating back millenia, the congenital birth defect is 4%. This does get worse however, if it was compounded in a single family over time. I am looking at you House Hapsburg. If they have no children, nor want any, there should be nothing wrong with them marrying for love.

[DesAnges]

Source?



I didn't justify it, I just said there's more important things to worry about.

You can't remove the privilege from straights, unless you're asking for demographic suicide.

You said banning homosexuality wasn't a human rights abuse, but "only" the withdrawal of a privilege.

Don't you see that for that to make sense, the privilege when granted has to be justified somehow? There has to be a positive reason for granting it, which does not apply (or applies significantly less) in the case where it's denied.

So try again. Justify granting the privilege in some cases but not others.

Before going with "so people can reproduce" bear in mind that you may remove the privilege from yourself and others to use contraception. Or indeed masturbate.

Reproduction is not dependent on marriage anyway so we may as well remove the whole thing.

[Technocratic Federation of Synertia]

Bestiality: bad because the animal cannot consent.
Rape: bad because the victim does not consent.
Sex with children: bad because the child cannot consent.
Homosexualty: ?
Insest: ?

The latter two both happen between consenting individuals, and there is no reason to prevent those consenting individuals from partaking in them.

And we found the incest supporter.

Face the reality. Normal people do not do that stuff. It is mental disorder.

And I quote myself:

Well do prove your points, my friend. If you are so sure of that I'm certain that you have unbiased sources that show homosexuality is a mental disorder beyond any reasonable doubt.

[Latinorium]

Well this is a step back in human rights, and it is sad that this affects one of the largest countries in the world. BUT this is a democracy so not much else to be said.

[Dakran]

Bestiality: bad because the animal cannot consent.
Rape: bad because the victim does not consent.
Sex with children: bad because the child cannot consent.
Homosexualty: ?
Insest: ?

The latter two both happen between consenting individuals, and there is no reason to prevent those consenting individuals from partaking in them.

And we found the incest supporter.

Face the reality. Normal people do not do that stuff. It is mental disorder.

Sources.

I support incest if its consensual. Why should I give a damn what two consenting people of legal age do so long as its not breaking and laws?
It's not a mental illness. It's been around for *deity* knows how long.

[Estado Paulista]

Sources, sources everywhere!

Well, not really.

[Capital Zealand]

Well this is a step back in human rights, and it is sad that this affects one of the largest countries in the world. BUT this is a democracy so not much else to be said.

Voting rights away from people, as in India and Croatia is called tyranny by majority, not democracy.

[Threlizdun]

Well this is a step back in human rights, and it is sad that this affects one of the largest countries in the world. BUT this is a democracy so not much else to be said.

They didn't vote rights away from people; a court overuled a law that had legalized homosexuality. This had nothing to do with voting.

[Bharatia]

Let's be honest, this is India. There are 1 billion or so people. There is no way on the planet that they are going to be able to catch anyone in homosexual acts. Even if they were caught, the couple could just bribe the policeman soooo....
and if they had no money, well it would take like 12 or so years before they were taken to court and then add another 12 years when you add an appeal to the supreme court, by then 1 of them could have died. Literally, it is pointless to try and restrict people's freedom in India. I mean nobody really gives a f**k about government rules. The only thing stopping people from going into anarchy is the religios morals. Although I guess some people care about government rules otherwise they can't really be a country.

But I guess the symbolism of it is really bad. Though I think that this will change next election as some rich homosexual will just bribe a politician and repeals everywhere. Either that or one of the main parties will just pledge that they will decriminalize it in return for some cheap votes.

Either way, in reality it ain't that much of a deal.

P.S. Sorry for all those Indians out there. I used to be Indian but I changed cause I can't stand your government. Although there will always be a small place in me that India will take up.

[The Roman Imperial Republic]

Well this is a step back in human rights, and it is sad that this affects one of the largest countries in the world. BUT this is a democracy so not much else to be said.

It was decided by the courts, and not the people of India. Control the coinage and the courts, let the rabble have the rest. Thus is the philosophy of all entrenched bureaucracies. India's is one of the worst.

[Estado Paulista]

Let's be honest, this is India. There are 1 billion or so people. There is no way on the planet that they are going to be able to catch anyone in homosexual acts. Even if they were caught, the couple could just bribe the policeman soooo....
and if they had no money, well it would take like 12 or so years before they were taken to court and then add another 12 years when you add an appeal to the supreme court, by then 1 of them could have died. Literally, it is pointless to try and restrict people's freedom in India. I mean nobody really gives a f**k about government rules. The only thing stopping people from going into anarchy is the religios morals. Although I guess some people care about government rules otherwise they can't really be a country.

But I guess the symbolism of it is really bad. Though I think that this will change next election as some rich homosexual will just bribe a politician and repeals everywhere. Either that or one of the main parties will just pledge that they will decriminalize it in return for some cheap votes.

Either way, in reality it ain't that much of a deal.

P.S. Sorry for all those Indians out there. I used to be Indian but I changed cause I can't stand your government. Although there will always be a small place in me that India will take up.

This was kinda sad to read.

[Decanect]

And we found the incest supporter.

Face the reality. Normal people do not do that stuff. It is mental disorder.

There is no such thing as "normal". Just because a greater number of people do not participate in something rather than not does not make something a "mental disorder". That is an actual science, not some term you can throw around because you don't agree with something.

If I say Citizen Kane is overrated, does that make me mentally ill?

[AiliailiA]

Well this is a step back in human rights, and it is sad that this affects one of the largest countries in the world. BUT this is a democracy so not much else to be said.

It wasn't done by government though, it was done by a court. Back when the case was heard (at Supreme Court) level, the Attorney General (the relevant representative of government) chose not to appeal it.

Government does not support the law. Whether they can muster the numbers to actually repeal it is another matter ...

[Aeken]

Well this is a step back in human rights, and it is sad that this affects one of the largest countries in the world. BUT this is a democracy so not much else to be said.

It was a colonial law.

[Threlizdun]

Let's be honest, this is India. There are 1 billion or so people. There is no way on the planet that they are going to be able to catch anyone in homosexual acts. Even if they were caught, the couple could just bribe the policeman soooo....
and if they had no money, well it would take like 12 or so years before they were taken to court and then add another 12 years when you add an appeal to the supreme court, by then 1 of them could have died. Literally, it is pointless to try and restrict people's freedom in India. I mean nobody really gives a f**k about government rules. The only thing stopping people from going into anarchy is the religios morals. Although I guess some people care about government rules otherwise they can't really be a country.

But I guess the symbolism of it is really bad. Though I think that this will change next election as some rich homosexual will just bribe a politician and repeals everywhere. Either that or one of the main parties will just pledge that they will decriminalize it in return for some cheap votes.

Either way, in reality it ain't that much of a deal.

P.S. Sorry for all those Indians out there. I used to be Indian but I changed cause I can't stand your government. Although there will always be a small place in me that India will take up.

There is so much wrong with literally all of this

[Mollary]

Fine, go and have sex with someone of the same sex and feel as if it is natural. Go and prove your point, because you will find that it is not a choice.

(Depending on looks, I will volunteer for this)

People are born with the programming for the desires later on in life. Sexual Orientations have been evidenced to Epigentics, Chromosomes, Birth Order and even Pheramones. No matter where the specific origin is, it is derived from an inherent biological 'center'. This is something nobody can control.

My point exactly.

[Latinorium]

Well this is a step back in human rights, and it is sad that this affects one of the largest countries in the world. BUT this is a democracy so not much else to be said.

They didn't vote rights away from people; a court overuled a law that had legalized homosexuality. This had nothing to do with voting.

Well the politicians that elect the judges of the courts are voted on by the people, so the people kind of control the courts.

[Bharatia]

Let's be honest, this is India. There are 1 billion or so people. There is no way on the planet that they are going to be able to catch anyone in homosexual acts. Even if they were caught, the couple could just bribe the policeman soooo....
and if they had no money, well it would take like 12 or so years before they were taken to court and then add another 12 years when you add an appeal to the supreme court, by then 1 of them could have died. Literally, it is pointless to try and restrict people's freedom in India. I mean nobody really gives a f**k about government rules. The only thing stopping people from going into anarchy is the religios morals. Although I guess some people care about government rules otherwise they can't really be a country.

But I guess the symbolism of it is really bad. Though I think that this will change next election as some rich homosexual will just bribe a politician and repeals everywhere. Either that or one of the main parties will just pledge that they will decriminalize it in return for some cheap votes.

Either way, in reality it ain't that much of a deal.

P.S. Sorry for all those Indians out there. I used to be Indian but I changed cause I can't stand your government. Although there will always be a small place in me that India will take up.

This was kinda sad to read.

Yep, it is.

Sorry about that, my frustration at my ethnic country is very apparent.

[Threlizdun]

This was kinda sad to read.

Yep, it is.

Sorry about that, my frustration at my ethnic country is very apparent.

No, India is actually a functioning society, despite your absolutely insane beliefs otherwise.

[Kronstad]

If more than 50% of Indians think that gays should stay in the closet. Then they stay in the closet. That's democracy.

This way of thinking is very strange indeed; according to your reasoning, if more than 50% of the inhabitants of a nation vote for a thing, then it should be implemented irrelevant of how destructive it is?
If 51% of the people in a country voted tomorrow to launch a nuclear warfare, would it, according to your reasoning, be fair? What if 51% of people voted to start a genocide tomorrow; would it be "democracy" for you?

[Israeli Defense Force]

Yep, it is.

Sorry about that, my frustration at my ethnic country is very apparent.

No, India is actually a functioning society, despite your absolutely insane beliefs otherwise.

Yeah, you totally know better than the person actually from that country.

[Bharatia]

Yep, it is.

Sorry about that, my frustration at my ethnic country is very apparent.

No, India is actually a functioning society, despite your absolutely insane beliefs otherwise.

I'm not saying it is not. I'm just saying it takes a hell a long time for anybody to go court. Also the police are generally corrupt. And some politicians are also corrupt. Otherwise it functions, it has too, it has a billion people living in it, going about their lives.

[Threlizdun]

No, India is actually a functioning society, despite your absolutely insane beliefs otherwise.

Yeah, you totally know better than the person actually from that country.

By ethnic country I am guessing they are just of Indian descent. Yes, if they believe that India is a lawless wasteland instead of an actual functioning society then I do know better than them.

[Kronstad]

Well the politicians that elect the judges of the courts are voted on by the people, so the people kind of control the courts.

Quite the contrary, actually; people also voted Hitler into power, but that doesn't mean that the people controlled Germany. Also, voting someone into power doesn't mean that the voters have power, it means they transferred their power to another person who can take decisions based on what he wants, not based on the voters' wishes.

[Israeli Defense Force]

By ethnic country I am guessing they are just of Indian descent. Yes, if they believe that India is a lawless wasteland instead of an actual functioning society then I do know better than them.

Tell us about your experiences in India.