India recriminalises homosexuality

[The Roman Imperial Republic]

Just found the news and this thread. What the hell India? Why in Shiva's name did they reinstate a law from the Colonial era? This makes no sense. If they want to have colonial laws, they ought to be colony. The issue of human rights is something that outdoes religion in importance.

[Salandriagado]

And why do I care?

Because you're a vaguely reasonable human being?

The right to being yourself is not a privelige.

It isn't "being yourself".

I can become gay in a second if I wanted, or I can stay straight. I can do anything. The fact that it's legal here means I can do it. There is no "being yourself".

Stop lying.

[Aeken]

India = world's largest democracy my ass

If more than 50% of Indians think that gays should stay in the closet. Then they stay in the closet. That's democracy.

The law was enacted since colonial times. No one chose this ban.

[Threlizdun]

Something that directly effects between four to twelve percent of the population will absolutely have indirect effects on the rest of the nation. Of course, even before that you are literally telling millions of people to go fuck themselves.

Source?

You are aware human society involves interaction right? When four to twelve percent are miserable, then you are definitely going to see a difference in society as a whole.

I didn't justify it, I just said there's more important things to worry about.

You can't remove the privilege from straights, unless you're asking for demographic suicide.

The "there are more important issues" arguement is such bullshit. Would you just casually walk by someone being murdered without trying to stop them because "there are more important issues"? Helping others is never a bad thing to do.

[Need a Name]

Just found the news and this thread. What the hell India? Why in Shiva's name did they reinstate a law from the Colonial era? This makes no sense. If they want to have colonial laws, they ought to be colony.

So... just because they agree on a law that happens to be a colonial law, they should be a colony? I'm pretty sure that's not good reasoning.

[Northfront]

Bestiality, homosexualism and incest between adult people all happen. It is still not something that normal people do or wishes that their kids would ever end up doing. You don't need any religion to see that those are all decadent things to do and not wanted in society.

Those lifestyles should not be promoted at all. And Russia did the right thing when they banned gay propaganda.

Hey, guess what? Fuck you! You are literally shitting on the basic human rights of likely millions of people, including myself (gay and proud, motherfuckers), and that is not fucking okay! The reason there's a taboo against bestiality is because animals can't fucking consent. The reason there's a taboo against incest is because it makes mutant fucking babies! The reason people still hold a taboo against same-sex relationships? Books written thousands of years ago. Like, seriously? You base your bigotry on fucking religious texts? God, you are such a pisslicking assnugget, I can't even fucking deal with your idiocy. Hello darkness, my old friend.

Hey, I am actually on gay people's side here. I know some. Many of them are crazy like you, but then again others are very nice people.

The surest way to increase hatred against gays is to do what happens now in USA. Big Gay mafia pushing that propaganda and brainwashing normal people's children to think that being gay is normal, ok or even more cool than being normal hetero. It is not. Face the truth. Homosexualism is mental disorder. Has always been and always will be.

[Mollary]

The right to being yourself is not a privelige.

It isn't "being yourself".

I can become gay in a second if I wanted, or I can stay straight. I can do anything. The fact that it's legal here means I can do it. There is no "being yourself".

Fine, go and have sex with someone of the same sex and feel as if it is natural. Go and prove your point, because you will find that it is not a choice.

[Salandriagado]

Just found the news and this thread. What the hell India? Why in Shiva's name did they reinstate a law from the Colonial era? This makes no sense. If they want to have colonial laws, they ought to be colony.

So... just because they agree on a law that happens to be a colonial law, they should be a colony? I'm pretty sure that's not good reasoning.

No significant (read: bigger than one in 10 million or so) proportion of the Indian population has ever voted in favour of this.

[Technocratic Federation of Synertia]

Hey, guess what? Fuck you! You are literally shitting on the basic human rights of likely millions of people, including myself (gay and proud, motherfuckers), and that is not fucking okay! The reason there's a taboo against bestiality is because animals can't fucking consent. The reason there's a taboo against incest is because it makes mutant fucking babies! The reason people still hold a taboo against same-sex relationships? Books written thousands of years ago. Like, seriously? You base your bigotry on fucking religious texts? God, you are such a pisslicking assnugget, I can't even fucking deal with your idiocy. Hello darkness, my old friend.

Hey, I am actually on gay people's side here. I know some. Many of them are crazy like you, but then again others are very nice people.

The surest way to increase hatred against gays is to do what happens now in USA. Big Gay mafia pushing that propaganda and brainwashing normal people's children to think that being gay is normal, ok or even more cool than being normal hetero. It is not. Face the truth. Homosexualism is mental disorder. Has always been and always will be.

Well do prove your points, my friend. If you are so sure of that I'm certain that you have unbiased sources that show homosexuality is a mental disorder beyond any reasonable doubt.

[Need a Name]

So... just because they agree on a law that happens to be a colonial law, they should be a colony? I'm pretty sure that's not good reasoning.

No significant (read: bigger than one in 10 million or so) proportion of the Indian population has ever voted in favour of this.

Well, then, not many people are voting.

[Threlizdun]

Hey, guess what? Fuck you! You are literally shitting on the basic human rights of likely millions of people, including myself (gay and proud, motherfuckers), and that is not fucking okay! The reason there's a taboo against bestiality is because animals can't fucking consent. The reason there's a taboo against incest is because it makes mutant fucking babies! The reason people still hold a taboo against same-sex relationships? Books written thousands of years ago. Like, seriously? You base your bigotry on fucking religious texts? God, you are such a pisslicking assnugget, I can't even fucking deal with your idiocy. Hello darkness, my old friend.

Hey, I am actually on gay people's side here. I know some. Many of them are crazy like you, but then again others are very nice people.

The surest way to increase hatred against gays is to do what happens now in USA. Big Gay mafia pushing that propaganda and brainwashing normal people's children to think that being gay is normal, ok or even more cool than being normal hetero. It is not. Face the truth. Homosexualism is mental disorder. Has always been and always will be.

Except that nonsense hasn't been accepted since the sixties.

[Northfront]

Bestiality, homosexualism and incest between adult people all happen. It is still not something that normal people do or wishes that their kids would ever end up doing. You don't need any religion to see that those are all decadent things to do and not wanted in society.

Those lifestyles should not be promoted at all. And Russia did the right thing when they banned gay propaganda.

Bestiality: bad because the animal cannot consent.
Rape: bad because the victim does not consent.
Sex with children: bad because the child cannot consent.
Homosexualty: ?
Insest: ?

The latter two both happen between consenting individuals, and there is no reason to prevent those consenting individuals from partaking in them.

And we found the incest supporter.

Face the reality. Normal people do not do that stuff. It is mental disorder.

[The Roman Imperial Republic]

It isn't "being yourself".

I can become gay in a second if I wanted, or I can stay straight. I can do anything. The fact that it's legal here means I can do it. There is no "being yourself".

Fine, go and have sex with someone of the same sex and feel as if it is natural. Go and prove your point, because you will find that it is not a choice.

(Depending on looks, I will volunteer for this)

People are born with the programming for the desires later on in life. Sexual Orientations have been evidenced to Epigentics, Chromosomes, Birth Order and even Pheramones. No matter where the specific origin is, it is derived from an inherent biological 'center'. This is something nobody can control.

[Neo Rome Republic]

This is unexpectedly disappointing.

[Capital Zealand]

Why am I forced to watch hetero couples kiss in public? I think it's so disgusting! Why can't I live a normal life!!!!!111

Bestiality, homosexualism and incest between adult people all happen. It is still not something that normal people do or wishes that their kids would ever end up doing. You don't need any religion to see that those are all decadent things to do and not wanted in society.

Those lifestyles should not be promoted at all. And Russia did the right thing when they banned gay propaganda.

You are a moral degenerate, a relic of the past who is not wanted in society. Gays aren't normal while straights are? Imagine the other way around when you're the decadents and your rights are trampled on. Would you be begging for not being jailed because you're straight? I can imagine you doing that, for the tone you're crying about your straight privileges to decide what is decadent and what isn't.

[Salandriagado]

No significant (read: bigger than one in 10 million or so) proportion of the Indian population has ever voted in favour of this.

Well, then, not many people are voting.

It isn't a vote. It isn't a law passed by an elected government. It's a constitutional judgement passed down by a court. The "one in ten million" was to get a number that I was confident would be significantly larger than the number of judges involved.

[Threlizdun]

And we found the incest supporter.

What consenting adults do together is their own business.

Face the reality. Normal people do not do that stuff. It is mental disorder.

Face the reality, mental health professionals that know a hell of a lot more about this subject than you do know there is nothing wrong with homosexuality.

[Estado Paulista]

Bestiality: bad because the animal cannot consent.
Rape: bad because the victim does not consent.
Sex with children: bad because the child cannot consent.
Homosexualty: ?
Insest: ?

The latter two both happen between consenting individuals, and there is no reason to prevent those consenting individuals from partaking in them.

And we found the incest supporter.

Face the reality. Normal people do not do that stuff. It is mental disorder.

Define "normal". I'm pretty sure that a "normal" person in your opinion is someone who shares the same views as you.

Also, give us a source saying that homossexuality and incest are mental disorders.

[Fascist Russian Empire]

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Bravo, India. More and more I get the feeling that the East is the new beacon of righteousness and morality while the West degenerates into a hotbed of sin and evil.

This, folks, is why we can't have nice things. Because thinking like this exist.

[The Emerald Legion]

God damn it India. I had high hopes for you being a shining bacon of equality and maybe one up
America.

You don't simply one up America. This is the nation who's original plan for space race dick-waving was to use a nuke blow a hole in the moon, creating an artificial eclipse as the dust cloud blocked out the sun.

[Aubadia]

Bestiality: bad because the animal cannot consent.
Rape: bad because the victim does not consent.
Sex with children: bad because the child cannot consent.
Homosexualty: ?
Insest: ?

The latter two both happen between consenting individuals, and there is no reason to prevent those consenting individuals from partaking in them.

And we found the incest supporter.

Face the reality. Normal people do not do that stuff. It is mental disorder.

There is no such thing as "normal". Just because a greater number of people do not participate in something rather than not does not make something a "mental disorder". That is an actual science, not some term you can throw around because you don't agree with something.

[Capital Zealand]

Bestiality: bad because the animal cannot consent.
Rape: bad because the victim does not consent.
Sex with children: bad because the child cannot consent.
Homosexualty: ?
Insest: ?

The latter two both happen between consenting individuals, and there is no reason to prevent those consenting individuals from partaking in them.

And we found the incest supporter.

Face the reality. Normal people do not do that stuff. It is mental disorder.

Face the reality. Fucking non-relatives is a mental disorder. Normal people don't do that.

I can make arbitrary claims like that myself.

[Salandriagado]

Bestiality: bad because the animal cannot consent.
Rape: bad because the victim does not consent.
Sex with children: bad because the child cannot consent.
Homosexualty: ?
Insest: ?

The latter two both happen between consenting individuals, and there is no reason to prevent those consenting individuals from partaking in them.

And we found the incest supporter.

Yes, absolutely I support the right of free association. You got a problem with that?

Face the reality. Normal people do not do that stuff. It is mental disorder.

Define "normal". Then try to find my one single person on this entire planet that is "normal". "Mental disorder" has a specific definition (See DSM5), and neither incest nor homosexuality fill it.

[Fascist Russian Empire]

Bestiality: bad because the animal cannot consent.
Rape: bad because the victim does not consent.
Sex with children: bad because the child cannot consent.
Homosexualty: ?
Insest: ?

The latter two both happen between consenting individuals, and there is no reason to prevent those consenting individuals from partaking in them.

And we found the incest supporter.

1: Face the reality. Normal people do not do that stuff. 2: It is mental disorder.

1: 'Normality' is a social construct, and has no actual meaning.'
2: Not according to science, it ain't.

[AiliailiA]

Something that directly effects between four to twelve percent of the population will absolutely have indirect effects on the rest of the nation. Of course, even before that you are literally telling millions of people to go fuck themselves.

Source?

You assert there are no such thing as rights.

Well OK, justify removing a privelege from gay people while granting that privilege to straights.

I didn't justify it, I just said there's more important things to worry about.

You can't remove the privilege from straights, unless you're asking for demographic suicide.

You said banning homosexuality wasn't a human rights abuse, but "only" the withdrawal of a privilege.

Don't you see that for that to make sense, the privilege when granted has to be justified somehow? There has to be a positive reason for granting it, which does not apply (or applies significantly less) in the case where it's denied.

So try again. Justify granting the privilege in some cases but not others.

Before going with "so people can reproduce" bear in mind that you may remove the privilege from yourself and others to use contraception. Or indeed masturbate.