India recriminalises homosexuality

[Capital Zealand]

Hey, there's white and CIS privilege, don't think we're letting gays off easy, either!

White and CIS privilege is actually a thing. Gay privilege isn't.

White, cis and straight.

[Technocratic Federation of Synertia]

Bestiality, homosexualism and incest between adult people all happen. It is still not something that normal people do or wishes that their kids would ever end up doing. You don't need any religion to see that those are all decadent things to do and not wanted in society.

Those lifestyles should not be promoted at all. And Russia did the right thing when they banned gay propaganda.

Hey, guess what? Fuck you! You are literally shitting on the basic human rights of likely millions of people, including myself (gay and proud, motherfuckers), and that is not fucking okay! The reason there's a taboo against bestiality is because animals can't fucking consent. The reason there's a taboo against incest is because it makes mutant fucking babies! The reason people still hold a taboo against same-sex relationships? Books written thousands of years ago. Like, seriously? You base your bigotry on fucking religious texts? God, you are such a pisslicking assnugget, I can't even fucking deal with your idiocy. Hello darkness, my old friend.

Actually you need a number of generations for hereditary diseases to start appearing in an incestual family. I see no problem with allowing for incest, at all.

[Estado Paulista]

I don't even.

Oh no, someone actually decides to give other people equality instead of allowing his entire race be subject to racism by a loud minority!

What are you even talking about?

[Threlizdun]

I'm starting to really like India

You like violation of human rights and ensuring mass suffering, depression, suicide, murder, and general reduction in standards of living?

No, they are talking about the violation of human rights we are all provided by the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.

Oh, that worthless piece of paper, eh?

I'm sure North Korea is doing quite fine enforcing those, since they're rights and all.

They are violating human rights, as is India. Both are wrong in doing so, though the fact that such atrocities are committed does not invalidate the fact that they are rights.

[New Laikland]

Something that directly effects between four to twelve percent of the population will absolutely have indirect effects on the rest of the nation. Of course, even before that you are literally telling millions of people to go fuck themselves.

Source?

You assert there are no such thing as rights.

Well OK, justify removing a privelege from gay people while granting that privilege to straights.

I didn't justify it, I just said there's more important things to worry about.

You can't remove the privilege from straights, unless you're asking for demographic suicide.

[Estado Paulista]

White and CIS privilege is actually a thing. Gay privilege isn't.

White, cis and straight.

Good for you.

[New Laikland]

They are violating human rights, as is India. Both are wrong in doing so, though the fact that such atrocities are committed does not invalidate the fact that they are rights.

No, they aren't violating human rights. There's no such thing as human rights. The fact that they can violate them shows that they don't actually exist.

[Technocratic Federation of Synertia]

Because there are far worse things going on in India than something miniscule and unimportant like this.

Something that affects millions of Indian citizens is not miniscule or unimportant.

Out of 1.1 billion, it is.[/quote]
So what? Still millions of people get affected by that. It is not a minuscule amount at all.

White and CIS privilege is actually a thing. Gay privilege isn't.

If there is no gay privilege, then there's no white or CIS privilege.

False dichotomy. Learn to argue before coming back, please.

[Northfront]

India = world's largest democracy my ass

If more than 50% of Indians think that gays should stay in the closet. Then they stay in the closet. That's democracy.

[Capital Zealand]

The right to being yourself is not a privelige.

It isn't "being yourself".

I can become gay in a second if I wanted, or I can stay straight. I can do anything. The fact that it's legal here means I can do it. There is no "being yourself".

Source that sexual orientation isn't a choice: http://www.apa.org/helpcenter/sexual-orientation.aspx
Therefore, you don't know what you're talking about and should be ashamed for it.

[Aeken]

Something that directly effects between four to twelve percent of the population will absolutely have indirect effects on the rest of the nation. Of course, even before that you are literally telling millions of people to go fuck themselves.

Source?

You assert there are no such thing as rights.

Well OK, justify removing a privelege from gay people while granting that privilege to straights.

I didn't justify it, I just said there's more important things to worry about.

You can't remove the privilege from straights, unless you're asking for demographic suicide.

So the majority thrives while the minorities suffer.

[Britanno]

Well, I guess even I must admit that criminalizing homosexuality is a step too far.

Any way in which homosexuals are discriminated is a step too far.

[Salandriagado]

Do you actually think that sexuality is chosen?

Some people choose it. Some people change it. Some people are brainwashed into it.

Earlier there was actually someone talking about lifestyle. Lifestyle is something you choose.

If someone suffers from twisted sexuality like bestiality or homosexualism, I suggest they seek help instead of thinking that it is normal, even when most people do not suffer from it.

In places like Russia the gay people can stay in the closet. There is no laws that makes the authorities to hunt them. They just had enough with the bullshit propaganda that gay people keep on pushing for kids.

Homosexuality is in no way "twisted".

[Technocratic Federation of Synertia]

India needs to focus on that high percentage of rape before focusing on homosexuality.

Oh boy, I guess cancer patients should really stop bathing. I mean, they have that whole cancer thing going on, they have higher priorities than bathing!

[Estado Paulista]

India = world's largest democracy my ass

If more than 50% of Indians think that gays should stay in the closet. Then they stay in the closet. That's democracy.

That's tyranny by majority.

[Salandriagado]

That is pretty offensive to people that follow that lifestyle. Including me

That "lifestyle" should stay in the porn sites.

Gays keep on pushing their stuff so much that it is no wonder that people are starting to have enough. No one wants their children to be forced to watch that, while trying to live normal life.

I feel precisely the same way about heterosexual sex, but you don't hear me trying to ban it.

[AiliailiA]

India needs to focus on that high percentage of rape before focusing on homosexuality.

Why?

Repression of homosexuality very likely leads to more rape ... particularly gang rape. Allowing the open expression of more than one kind of sexuality actually helps to break the reactionary oppression of women which is expressed in rape.

[Technocratic Federation of Synertia]

India = world's largest democracy my ass

If more than 50% of Indians think that gays should stay in the closet. Then they stay in the closet. That's democracy.

That's tyranny of the majority, not democracy. Limiting one's freedoms and rights should never be excused by majority's rule.

[Capital Zealand]

White, cis and straight.

Good for you.

Because connection between sex and gender =/= sexual orientation.

[Britanno]

India = world's largest democracy my ass

If more than 50% of Indians think that gays should stay in the closet. Then they stay in the closet. That's democracy.

Tyranny by majority is not democracy.

[Threlizdun]

The right to being yourself is not a privelige.

It isn't "being yourself".

I can become gay in a second if I wanted, or I can stay straight. I can do anything. The fact that it's legal here means I can do it. There is no "being yourself".

Do it then. Make yourself gay. See how "easy" it is.
While you're at it, tell me why people are so ready to choose to be something that will result in their alienation, denial of rights, and potentially their death? Why do people who are attracted to members of the same sex often try so desperately to stop having those desires if they can supposedly change who they are attracted to? Why do they have one of the highest suicide rates of any demographic in the world when they could just "choose" to be straight and live happily?

[Need a Name]

Well, I guess even I must admit that criminalizing homosexuality is a step too far.

Any way in which homosexuals are discriminated is a step too far.

Tis true, all sins and sinners are equal. Homosexuals for some reason get attacked by the church more than they should... which is none. So I guess I should support not criminalizing homosexuality.

[Estado Paulista]

Good for you.

Because connection between sex and gender =/= sexual orientation.

What the fuck are you talking about?

[Capital Zealand]

India = world's largest democracy my ass

If more than 50% of Indians think that gays should stay in the closet. Then they stay in the closet. That's democracy.

That's voting away their rights, which is tyranny by majority.

[AiliailiA]

India = world's largest democracy my ass

If more than 50% of Indians think that gays should stay in the closet. Then they stay in the closet. That's democracy.

And do they?

You cannot simply assert that it's the will of the majority because the government "banned homsexuality". Because the government DIDN'T. This is a very old law (predating democracy in India actually) which was thought to be overturned by a court, but has now been reinstated on appeal.

Indian Supreme Court =/= Democracy.