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Postby Aeken » Wed Dec 11, 2013 1:34 pm

Northfront wrote:
European Socialist Republic wrote:Why am I forced to watch hetero couples kiss in public? I think it's so disgusting! Why can't I live a normal life!!!!!111


Bestiality, homosexualism and incest between adult people all happen. It is still not something that normal people do or wishes that their kids would ever end up doing. You don't need any religion to see that those are all decadent things to do and not wanted in society.

Those lifestyles should not be promoted at all. And Russia did the right thing when they banned gay propaganda.

Do you actually think that sexuality is chosen?

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Postby New Laikland » Wed Dec 11, 2013 1:36 pm

Eh, not bad. There's more important things to worry about like human rights abuses and whatnot in India.

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Postby Estado Paulista » Wed Dec 11, 2013 1:37 pm

New Laikland wrote:Eh, not bad. There's more important things to worry about like human rights abuses and whatnot in India.


Criminilazing homosexuality seems like a human right abuse to me.
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Postby DesAnges » Wed Dec 11, 2013 1:37 pm

Northfront wrote:Bestiality, homosexualism and incest between adult people all happen. It is still not something that normal people do or wishes that their kids would ever end up doing. You don't need any religion to see that those are all decadent things to do and not wanted in society.

Those lifestyles should not be promoted at all. And Russia did the right thing when they banned gay propaganda.

Bestiality happens between adult people? Interesting /flippant.

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Postby New Laikland » Wed Dec 11, 2013 1:37 pm

Estado Paulista wrote:
Criminilazing homosexuality seems like a human right abuse to me.


Nah, just a removal of privilege.

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Postby Aeken » Wed Dec 11, 2013 1:38 pm

New Laikland wrote:Eh, not bad. There's more important things to worry about like human rights abuses and whatnot in India.

How is it not bad?

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Postby Britanno » Wed Dec 11, 2013 1:38 pm

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Postby Zeganas » Wed Dec 11, 2013 1:38 pm

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Postby New Laikland » Wed Dec 11, 2013 1:38 pm

Aeken wrote:How is it not bad?


Because there are far worse things going on in India than something miniscule and unimportant like this.

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Postby Central Atenicnn » Wed Dec 11, 2013 1:39 pm

Northfront wrote:
European Socialist Republic wrote:Why am I forced to watch hetero couples kiss in public? I think it's so disgusting! Why can't I live a normal life!!!!!111


Bestiality, homosexualism and incest between adult people all happen. It is still not something that normal people do or wishes that their kids would ever end up doing. You don't need any religion to see that those are all decadent things to do and not wanted in society.

Those lifestyles should not be promoted at all. And Russia did the right thing when they banned gay propaganda.

Hey, guess what? Fuck you! You are literally shitting on the basic human rights of likely millions of people, including myself (gay and proud, motherfuckers), and that is not fucking okay! The reason there's a taboo against bestiality is because animals can't fucking consent. The reason there's a taboo against incest is because it makes mutant fucking babies! The reason people still hold a taboo against same-sex relationships? Books written thousands of years ago. Like, seriously? You base your bigotry on fucking religious texts? God, you are such a pisslicking assnugget, I can't even fucking deal with your idiocy. Hello darkness, my old friend.
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Postby Estado Paulista » Wed Dec 11, 2013 1:39 pm

Aeken wrote:Do you actually think that sexuality is chosen?


Why would someone choose to be gay and face an incredible amount of [systemic] prejudice, get beat up in the street and etc? This isn't even logical.
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Postby Threlizdun » Wed Dec 11, 2013 1:39 pm

New Laikland wrote:
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Criminilazing homosexuality seems like a human right abuse to me.


Nah, just a removal of privilege.

No, it is an explicit violation of human rights
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Postby Aeken » Wed Dec 11, 2013 1:39 pm

New Laikland wrote:
Aeken wrote:How is it not bad?


Because there are far worse things going on in India than something miniscule and unimportant like this.

Criminalizing a minority is a human rights abuse.

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Postby Estado Paulista » Wed Dec 11, 2013 1:40 pm

New Laikland wrote:Nah, just a removal of privilege.


Gay privilege? That's a new one. :lol:
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Postby AiliailiA » Wed Dec 11, 2013 1:40 pm

New Laikland wrote:Eh, not bad. There's more important things to worry about like human rights abuses and whatnot in India.


Jailing people for consensual acts in private IS a human rights abuse. A government which does not hold itself to a high standard of human rights has no moral authority to deal with human rights abuses within society.

In short, your argument is "they did it too" and fails.
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Postby Kelinfort » Wed Dec 11, 2013 1:40 pm

New Laikland wrote:
Estado Paulista wrote:
Criminilazing homosexuality seems like a human right abuse to me.


Nah, just a removal of privilege.

Nope human rights abuse.

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Postby Mistelemr » Wed Dec 11, 2013 1:40 pm

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Mistelemr wrote:The next time a conservative uses the bullshit love it or leave it argument on me for advocating gay marriage, I'll happily encourage them to move to India where they can be homophobic to their heart's content.



I'm "conservative", and I've made no such argument...largely cause I don't even know what that argument is....but I have no desire to move to India.


The love it or leave it argument is pretty flawed. Basically it assumes that a country is pretty much perfect as it is, and if you're complaining about it and have problems with it you should just go somewhere else.

The idiotic point of this is that even the people who use the love it or leave it argument often spew shit about how the country is terrible, and I personally can't tell you how many people I've had to deal with who use that argument and then turn right around and attack the country that "shouldn't be changed"
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Postby New Laikland » Wed Dec 11, 2013 1:41 pm

Estado Paulista wrote:
Gay privilege? That's a new one. :lol:


Hey, there's white and CIS privilege, don't think we're letting gays off easy, either!

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Postby Threlizdun » Wed Dec 11, 2013 1:41 pm

New Laikland wrote:
Aeken wrote:How is it not bad?


Because there are far worse things going on in India than something miniscule and unimportant like this.
Something that affects millions of Indian citizens is not miniscule or unimportant.
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Postby Salandriagado » Wed Dec 11, 2013 1:41 pm

Northfront wrote:
European Socialist Republic wrote:Why am I forced to watch hetero couples kiss in public? I think it's so disgusting! Why can't I live a normal life!!!!!111


Bestiality, homosexualism and incest between adult people all happen. It is still not something that normal people do or wishes that their kids would ever end up doing. You don't need any religion to see that those are all decadent things to do and not wanted in society.

Those lifestyles should not be promoted at all. And Russia did the right thing when they banned gay propaganda.


Bestiality: bad because the animal cannot consent.
Rape: bad because the victim does not consent.
Sex with children: bad because the child cannot consent.
Homosexualty: ?
Insest: ?

The latter two both happen between consenting individuals, and there is no reason to prevent those consenting individuals from partaking in them.
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Postby Lipnitia » Wed Dec 11, 2013 1:41 pm

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Postby New Laikland » Wed Dec 11, 2013 1:42 pm

Kelinfort wrote:Nope human rights abuse.


Removal of a privilege, actually. Unless you want to somehow show me the laws of nature given to us by nature itself that declare that every human has rights.

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Postby Northfront » Wed Dec 11, 2013 1:42 pm

Aeken wrote:
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Bestiality, homosexualism and incest between adult people all happen. It is still not something that normal people do or wishes that their kids would ever end up doing. You don't need any religion to see that those are all decadent things to do and not wanted in society.

Those lifestyles should not be promoted at all. And Russia did the right thing when they banned gay propaganda.

Do you actually think that sexuality is chosen?


Some people choose it. Some people change it. Some people are brainwashed into it.

Earlier there was actually someone talking about lifestyle. Lifestyle is something you choose.

If someone suffers from twisted sexuality like bestiality or homosexualism, I suggest they seek help instead of thinking that it is normal, even when most people do not suffer from it.

In places like Russia the gay people can stay in the closet. There is no laws that makes the authorities to hunt them. They just had enough with the bullshit propaganda that gay people keep on pushing for kids.
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Postby Dakran » Wed Dec 11, 2013 1:42 pm

Central Atenicnn wrote:
Northfront wrote:
Bestiality, homosexualism and incest between adult people all happen. It is still not something that normal people do or wishes that their kids would ever end up doing. You don't need any religion to see that those are all decadent things to do and not wanted in society.

Those lifestyles should not be promoted at all. And Russia did the right thing when they banned gay propaganda.

Hey, guess what? Fuck you! You are literally shitting on the basic human rights of likely millions of people, including myself (gay and proud, motherfuckers), and that is not fucking okay! The reason there's a taboo against bestiality is because animals can't fucking consent. The reason there's a taboo against incest is because it makes mutant fucking babies! The reason people still hold a taboo against same-sex relationships? Books written thousands of years ago. God, you are such a pisslicking assnugget, I can't even fucking deal with your idiocy.

I'm not entirely sure on the guarantee of mutant babies. There may have been a study a while back that showed the odds of having genetic mutations were slightly higher but I'm likely wrong.


Also, calm down. You don't want to get a warn for flaming do you?
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