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Postby Flaxxony » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:40 pm

Regnum Dominae wrote:
Flaxxony wrote:Well it was democratic. So I guess that is all you can really ask for on this stuff.

Unrestrained democracy is often no more than tyranny by majority, as was the case here.


But only when conservative movements do it? Where was that argument when it is liberals passing things.

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Postby King Kuppa I » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:40 pm

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King Kuppa I wrote:Ohhhhhh... :o
Are you really shocked.

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Postby Hladgos » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:40 pm

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Hladgos wrote:On what grounds can you ban homosexuality anyway?

It counts as an "Unnatural sexual practice." No, I don't know either.

'Oh gods! It's unnatural! But so is medicine and cars and pizza and toilets. Unnatural is a bad reason to use, you need points of evidence. Like what does it do to the economy? National safety?
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Postby Estado Paulista » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:41 pm

Hladgos wrote:'Oh gods!


Because India.
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Postby Sommorragh » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:41 pm

Question: I understand that this is bad and all, but isn't India really just an almagamation of semi-autonomous states, each with a murder-boner for each other, and different systems of government? Seems like a hard policy to enforce.

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Postby Hladgos » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:42 pm

Estado Paulista wrote:
Hladgos wrote:'Oh gods!


Because India.

Why aren't there more buddhists in india? They're more accepting of things.
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Postby Free Tristania » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:43 pm

Only a fool would have been surprised. We're talking about India here: with Congo and South Africa the world's rape capital. The country where millions are untouchables because of some ancient superstition. We're not talking about a civilised country, gentlemen.
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Postby The Holy Dominion of Inesea » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:44 pm

Good intent, wrong method of delivery. By outlawing it, you could also argue that being a pyromaniac. Instead, India should have simply criminalized marrying homosexuals and the act of homosexual sex, just like arson, not being a pyromaniac, is often illegal . That way the afflicted are not discriminated against for being who they are, but reprimanded for doing something wrong.
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India recriminalises homosexuality

Postby Ihender » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:44 pm

good india I hate homosex :clap: is scum heteros need to protect our selfves posting.php?mode=reply&f=20&t=274666&sid=c373cda0972e34ddd5bdfde34db50251#

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Postby Technocratic Federation of Synertia » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:44 pm

Well, that sucks. And that is an extreme understatement.

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Postby Ihender » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:44 pm

good india I hate homosex :clap: is scum heteros need to protect our selfves posting.php?mode=reply&f=20&t=274666&sid=c373cda0972e34ddd5bdfde34db50251#[region][/region] germany

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Postby Dakran » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:45 pm

Free Tristania wrote:Only a fool would have been surprised. We're talking about India here: with Congo and South Africa the world's rape capital. The country where millions are untouchables because of some ancient superstition. We're not talking about a civilised country, gentlemen.

You sound like my fundamentalist classes.
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:45 pm

Hladgos wrote:
Estado Paulista wrote:
Because India.

Why aren't there more buddhists in india? They're more accepting of things.

It's not black and white or solely religious based. There were atheists in this movement as well.

And many Buddhists would approve of this- many prominent Buddhist leaders have spoken against homosexuality in India and abroad.
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Postby Starkiller101 » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:45 pm

Ihender wrote:good india I hate homosex :clap: is scum heteros need to protect our selfves posting.php?mode=reply&f=20&t=274666&sid=c373cda0972e34ddd5bdfde34db50251#[region][/region] germany
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Postby Kelinfort » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:45 pm

Oh dear...eventually, they'll decriminalize it and maybe allow gay marriage...but now, this is awful.

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Postby DesAnges » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:46 pm

Ihender wrote:good india I hate homosex :clap: is scum heteros need to protect our selfves

Protect ourselfves from what, pray tell?
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Postby Technocratic Federation of Synertia » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:46 pm

Ihender wrote:good india I hate homosex :clap: is scum heteros need to protect our selfves posting.php?mode=reply&f=20&t=274666&sid=c373cda0972e34ddd5bdfde34db50251#[region][/region] germany

Why does it appear to me that you are some kind of extremely advanced and wicked spam bot?
Maybe bred with humans?
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Postby Nightkill the Emperor » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:46 pm

Free Tristania wrote:Only a fool would have been surprised. We're talking about India here: with Congo and South Africa the world's rape capital. The country where millions are untouchables because of some ancient superstition. We're not talking about a civilised country, gentlemen.

Fucking hell.

I'm going for a drink.
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Postby Hladgos » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:46 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
Hladgos wrote:Why aren't there more buddhists in india? They're more accepting of things.

It's not black and white or solely religious based. There were atheists in this movement as well.

And many Buddhists would approve of this- many prominent Buddhist leaders have spoken against homosexuality in India and abroad.

Well people should just be less stupid and try not to interfere with people's personal lives.
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Postby Sommorragh » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:47 pm

Nightkill the Emperor wrote:
Free Tristania wrote:Only a fool would have been surprised. We're talking about India here: with Congo and South Africa the world's rape capital. The country where millions are untouchables because of some ancient superstition. We're not talking about a civilised country, gentlemen.

Fucking hell.

I'm going for a drink.


I'm coming with.

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Postby Ihender » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:47 pm

they did the right thing

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Postby Technocratic Federation of Synertia » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:47 pm

Isn't India the country where there is, like, a fucking anti-blasphemy law or something?

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Postby Technocratic Federation of Synertia » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:47 pm

Ihender wrote:they did the right thing

nope

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Postby Estado Paulista » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:47 pm

Hladgos wrote:
Estado Paulista wrote:
Because India.

Why aren't there more buddhists in india? They're more accepting of things.


Because of the invasions led by the Hephthalite empire, the Muslims, because Buddhism only appealed to certain ethnic groups in the Indian Himalaya and a strain of the merchant class and other reasons.

There are quite a lot of Buddhists in India, too.

And I wouldn't say they are more accepting of things. Look at the religious violence in Burma, for example.
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Postby Tel » Wed Dec 11, 2013 12:48 pm

Ihender wrote:good india I hate homosex :clap: is scum heteros need to protect our selfves posting.php?mode=reply&f=20&t=274666&sid=c373cda0972e34ddd5bdfde34db50251#[region][/region] germany


...Wow.

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