India recriminalises homosexuality

[Threlizdun]

HIV and AIDS affect all people regardless of sexual orientation

Uh-huh, and homosexuals are more likely to contract it due to their... lifestyle.

It's in everyone's best interests if sodomy is criminalized, but whatever.

There is no homosexual lifestyle, just an orientation.

[Kelinfort]

HIV and AIDS affect all people regardless of sexual orientation

Uh-huh, and homosexuals are more likely to contract it due to their... lifestyle.

It's in everyone's best interests if sodomy is criminalized, but whatever.

Lifestyle, you're more likely to contract STD's if you're promiscuous and do not use protection not if you are homosexual.

[Regnum Dominae]

Doesn't work for tens of millions of Indians or the people who love them.

Well then, too bad for them. Here's an idea : move some place where homosexuality is legal.

[Regnum Dominae]

HIV and AIDS affect all people regardless of sexual orientation

Uh-huh, and homosexuals are more likely to contract it due to their... lifestyle.

It's in everyone's best interests if sodomy is criminalized, but whatever.

What homosexual lifestyle?

[Jormengand]

HIV and AIDS affect all people regardless of sexual orientation

Uh-huh, and homosexuals are more likely to contract it due to their... lifestyle.

The source that supposedly showed that also showed that black people are more likely than white people to get it.

Ban blacks from having sex, clearly.

[Technocratic Federation of Synertia]

You have the choice to attempt to refrain from your choice, but you do not. Ergo, in my opinion, you are only subjecting yourself to such torment.

Homosexuality is not a fucking choice. And even if it is, how exactly does that fucking justify murdering, harassing, persecuting and taking away their rights?

[Threlizdun]

Doesn't work for tens of millions of Indians or the people who love them.

Well then, too bad for them. Here's an idea : move some place where homosexuality is legal.

Because telling people to go fuck themselves is the right response and moving is certainly possibly for a largley impoverished population to do.

[Valcouria]

Considering the basic nature of humanity is predisposed to be heterosexual, and that bisexuality 'exists,' I disagree vehemently; it is a choice, and one that is freely made.

And how do you explain the large number of homosexuals who truly wish that they could have been heterosexual?

They apparently aren't trying hard enough.

Considering the basic nature of humanity is predisposed to be heterosexual, and that bisexuality 'exists,' I disagree vehemently; it is a choice, and one that is freely made. The problem is you and the 'scientists' you speak of have put it into your head that it is not, just to make you feel better about said choice.

You contradict yourself. You said humanity is predisposed to be heterosexual yet say sexual orientation is a choice. It is either one or the other. Scientists (which apparently you use as a slur) perfectly understand that all sexual orientations are predisposed.

I did no such thing; humanity is predisposed to heterosexuality, but then some choose to ignore this basic tenant and live contrary to these natrual, God-given laws. And the word 'scientist' in this context was those who try to convince gays that their chosen condition is 'normal.'

Respect is earned, sir, not given freely like Halloween candy.

And you have earned none.

Coming from you and these other people, I think I would prefer not to have any than earn some here.

[Pandeeria]

Congrats India, then. Hey, it works for me.

No, human suffering doesn't work for anyone.

Not to mention invade human rights.

http://www.un.org/en/documents/udhr/index.shtml#a16

[Northfront]

Bullshit. Homosexuality has a very bad effect on society. It is a degenerate and decadent lifestyle. Check out the STD and HIV stats. Still I would not ban homosexuals. Like I would not ban any other insane people. Help them instead and do what Russia did. Ban the gay propaganda towards children.

1) We're not "insane", thank you very much.
2) No more "degenerate" or "decadent" than heterosexuality.
3) What the hell is "gay propaganda"? Let me guess, teaching children the fact that homosexuality is perfectly good and healthy, is somehow "propaganda".

Homophobia? Really? Do you seriously think that people have some insane level of fear of homosexuals?

Hatred, not fear.

Yeah right. Prove that and start the Gay Nation.

It would collapse and all the people would die. Face the truth. You need hetero people in order to exist. But hetero people do not need gay people in order to exist.

I am not putting gay people in jail. But it is sick that you people are trying to twist the facts of life. At some point it is very likely that it will backfire on you as you go against human nature. Against the untwisted human nature.

[Capital Zealand]

And that's you.

And that's false.

Not, because you openly, brightly smiling said that India was going the right way as it banned homosexual intercourse and as you oppose same-sex marriage. You have an irrational disgust of homosexuals to even think about it as good and you need to be cured of it. Unless you use logic to back up your opinion on homosexuality.

[Salandriagado]

And how do you explain the large number of homosexuals who truly wish that they could have been heterosexual?

They apparently aren't trying hard enough.

Because it's not possible, and trying to force it leads to major psychological harm.

You contradict yourself. You said humanity is predisposed to be heterosexual yet say sexual orientation is a choice. It is either one or the other. Scientists (which apparently you use as a slur) perfectly understand that all sexual orientations are predisposed.

I did no such thing; humanity is predisposed to heterosexuality, but then some choose to ignore this basic tenant and live contrary to these natrual, God-given laws. And the word 'scientist' in this context was those who try to convince gays that their chosen condition is 'normal.'

Ah, you've decided to completely give up on making arguments and appeal to authority. Drop it, and come up with your own justification.

[Kelinfort]

1.And how do you explain the large number of homosexuals who truly wish that they could have been heterosexual?

They apparently aren't trying hard enough.

You contradict yourself. You said humanity is predisposed to be heterosexual yet say sexual orientation is a choice. It is either one or the other. Scientists (which apparently you use as a slur) perfectly understand that all sexual orientations are predisposed.

2.I did no such thing; humanity is predisposed to heterosexuality, but then some choose to ignore this basic tenant and live contrary to these natrual, God-given laws. And the word 'scientist' in this context was those who try to convince gays that their chosen condition is 'normal.'

And you have earned none.

3.Coming from you and these other people, I think I would prefer not to have any than earn some here.

1. The bullying from people like you.(not trying to commit ad hominem, but your statements don't help your point.)
2. Contrary to these laws...even if that were the case, why is it wrong?
3. Nor do I wish for your respect.

[Zolinde]

1) We're not "insane", thank you very much.
2) No more "degenerate" or "decadent" than heterosexuality.
3) What the hell is "gay propaganda"? Let me guess, teaching children the fact that homosexuality is perfectly good and healthy, is somehow "propaganda".

Hatred, not fear.

Yeah right. Prove that and start the Gay Nation.

It would collapse and all the people would die. Face the truth. You need hetero people in order to exist. But hetero people do not need gay people in order to exist.

I am not putting gay people in jail. But it is sick that you people are trying to twist the facts of life. At some point it is very likely that it will backfire on you as you go against human nature. Against the untwisted human nature.

[Regnum Dominae]

1) We're not "insane", thank you very much.
2) No more "degenerate" or "decadent" than heterosexuality.
3) What the hell is "gay propaganda"? Let me guess, teaching children the fact that homosexuality is perfectly good and healthy, is somehow "propaganda".

Hatred, not fear.

Yeah right. Prove that and start the Gay Nation.

It would collapse and all the people would die. Face the truth. You need hetero people in order to exist. But hetero people do not need gay people in order to exist.

I am not putting gay people in jail. But it is sick that you people are trying to twist the facts of life. At some point it is very likely that it will backfire on you as you go against human nature. Against the untwisted human nature.

Pathetic strawman. I don't advocate a "Gay Nation". I advocate a society where I, and the millions of people like me, can be treated equally under the law regardless of sexual orientation.

Anyway, some sources for Valcouria and the others who are screaming "HOMOSEXUALITY IS A CHOICE!":
http://communities.washingtontimes.com/ ... e-says-no/
http://www.cnn.com/2011/11/16/opinion/h ... -a-choice/
http://www.truthwinsout.org/opinion/2011/10/19114/
http://io9.com/5967426/scientists-confi ... n-the-womb
http://billfleege.blogspot.com/2011/06/ ... ty-is.html
http://classes.biology.ucsd.edu/bisp194 ... d_2001.pdf

[Pandeeria]

1) We're not "insane", thank you very much.
2) No more "degenerate" or "decadent" than heterosexuality.
3) What the hell is "gay propaganda"? Let me guess, teaching children the fact that homosexuality is perfectly good and healthy, is somehow "propaganda".

Hatred, not fear.

Yeah right. Prove that and start the Gay Nation.

It would collapse and all the people would die. Face the truth. You need hetero people in order to exist. But hetero people do not need gay people in order to exist.

I am not putting gay people in jail. But it is sick that you people are trying to twist the facts of life. At some point it is very likely that it will backfire on you as you go against human nature. Against the untwisted human nature.

Actually if it's against human nature, there would be no homosexuality. Also, cute. You committed a logical fallacy.

[Capital Zealand]

Homosexuality. Isn't. A. Fucking. Choice. Science proved that in the fucking 1930s; and any homosexual can tell you that they didn't choose their sexuality.

Considering the basic nature of humanity is predisposed to be heterosexual, and that bisexuality 'exists,' I disagree vehemently; it is a choice, and one that is freely made. The problem is you and the 'scientists' you speak of have put it into your head that it is not, just to make you feel better about said choice.

Considering the fact that it's scientifically proven otherwise, you're wrong. http://www.apa.org/helpcenter/sexual-orientation.aspx
If you want to, say, use logic instead, I'll say right away that appeal to nature is a fallacy. Let's start with that, because you started blathering about a 'basic nature of humanity'. What is it and could I order it with a source, please?

[Jormengand]

They apparently aren't trying hard enough.

So clearly, for some people, it's not a choice?

Also, I decided to bring a little evidence.

Damned scientists, proving you wrong.

[Erothin]

HIV and AIDS affect all people regardless of sexual orientation

Uh-huh, and homosexuals are more likely to contract it due to their... lifestyle.

It's in everyone's best interests if sodomy is criminalized, but whatever.

Actually lesbians have a much lower incidence of HIV and AIDs. Should we ban heterosexuality for women now? Or better yet, we can make sex straight up illegal! Asexuals have the lowest HIV incidence of all!

[AiliailiA]

Homosexuality. Isn't. A. Fucking. Choice. Science proved that in the fucking 1930s; and any homosexual can tell you that they didn't choose their sexuality.

Considering the basic nature of humanity is predisposed to be heterosexual, and that bisexuality 'exists,' I disagree vehemently; it is a choice, and one that is freely made. The problem is you and the 'scientists' you speak of have put it into your head that it is not, just to make you feel better about said choice.

"Predisposed" you say?

Is that different to "a choice, and one that is freely made"?

Let's talk about YOUR choice shall we? You must feel bad about it, because ... um, I'm not sure exactly, but if gays feel bad about the choice they freely made then heterosexuals would likewise feel bad about the choice they freely made. I can't see the difference, so unless you can explain, I presume you're just projecting your own feelings about gay sex onto gays. They should feel bad in your opinion, the way a meat eater should feel bad about eating meat, in the opinion of an ethical vegetarian. It's that, isn't it?

At what age did you choose to be straight? Did you discuss it with anyone, do any research, or experiment with the alternatives?

[Capital Zealand]

Yeah fucking right.
I'm the one pressuring people to change when society hates me, when everyone else are the ones that are talking shit about me and who I am? What a fucking ridiculous sentiment. Oh, and you can stop with the blatantly offensive "your kind" shit now.

You sound like a paedophile that is trying to defend his crimes.

Stop pushing that gay stuff and people will accept you.

A child cannot consent. Hence, your comparison is completely invalid.

[Northfront]

Bullshit. Homosexuality has a very bad effect on society.

[citation needed]

It is a degenerate and decadent lifestyle.

[citation needed]

Check out the STD and HIV stats.

which heterosexuals also have

Still I would not ban homosexuals. Like I would not ban any other insane people. Help them instead and do what Russia did. Ban the gay propaganda towards children.

Except the mental health community has firmly rejected that it's a mental disorder since the sixties. You still seem to be implying you know more about mental health than they do

Homophobia? Really? Do you seriously think that people have some insane level of fear of homosexuals?

Well you clearly do

Just check the STD and HIV stats. Guess who has more trouble with them?

People that dealt with the mental health classifications have been under constant attack of the gay groups. It was terror. Not based on science, to suddenly stop calling homosexualism a mental disorder. Read the history.

[Basking Turtles]

Damned scientists, proving you wrong.

"Those scientists are all just disgusting gays trying to push their unnatural agenda."

See, we don't need any anti-gay people, I already know their arguments by heart.

[Jormengand]

Damned scientists, proving you wrong.

"Those scientists are all just disgusting gays trying to push their unnatural agenda."

See, we don't need any anti-gay people, I already know their arguments by heart.

A lot of these scientists, of course, are heterosexual. But I know they're going to dismiss them for no reason.

[Capital Zealand]

Congrats India, then. Hey, it works for me.

Then you are a homophobe and should be ashamed for giving some groups rights compared to their counterparts.