Judge orders Colorado baker to serve gay couples

[Swedish Realm]

America's Civil Rights law defends religion and sexual orientation, and the man as a Christian does not want to violate his faith but is being forced to because of the Judge who is biased because he put Sexual Orientation over that of Religion. Just like putting Religion of Sexual Orientation would be biased, as well.

Again, saying that the judge is biased is not explaining how he is biased.

I said how, HOW THE HELL CANT YOU SEE IT?

[Ifreann]

Again, saying that the judge is biased is not explaining how he is biased.

I said how, HOW THE HELL CANT YOU SEE IT?

No you haven't. You have said the judge is biased, and you have said that this bias is how they came to the ruling they did, but you have provided no evidence of this bias. You saying the judge is biased does not make it so. The judge making a ruling you don't like does not make them biased. Was the ruling inconsistent with the law? Were the legal proceedings not carried out fairly?

[Liriena]

I know that socialists hate freedom but this is freedom: free to do business with whoever you want, live your life you want and let others do it too. However stupid it may seem.

The bullshit is strong in this one.

[Dyakovo]

Again, saying that the judge is biased is not explaining how he is biased.

I said how, HOW THE HELL CANT YOU SEE IT?

Because it exists only in your imagination.

[Swedish Realm]

I said how, HOW THE HELL CANT YOU SEE IT?

Because it exists only in your imagination.

I clearly stated it.

[Ifreann]

Because it exists only in your imagination.

I clearly stated it.

Certainly you have stated that there is bias. I've been asking for an explanation though, which you've yet to provide.

[Dyakovo]

Because it exists only in your imagination.

I clearly stated it.

You saying it does not mean it is real.

[Swedish Realm]

I clearly stated it.

Certainly you have stated that there is bias. I've been asking for an explanation though, which you've yet to provide.

Putting Sexual Orientation over Religion, do you want me to say it again?

[Shadeland]

Certainly you have stated that there is bias. I've been asking for an explanation though, which you've yet to provide.

Putting Sexual Orientation over Religion, do you want me to say it again?

I believe they mean to ask that you further elaborate on that. You have an argument, but it's like reading a thesis to a paragraph, and only that.

[Divair]

Certainly you have stated that there is bias. I've been asking for an explanation though, which you've yet to provide.

Putting Sexual Orientation over Religion, do you want me to say it again?

Religion isn't in the law, try again.

[Dyakovo]

Certainly you have stated that there is bias. I've been asking for an explanation though, which you've yet to provide.

Putting Sexual Orientation over Religion, do you want me to say it again?

He didn't put sexual orientation over religion.

[Swedish Realm]

Putting Sexual Orientation over Religion, do you want me to say it again?

Religion isn't in the law, try again.

Oh but it is though, it is in the civil rights act, that Americans value so highly.

[Divair]

Religion isn't in the law, try again.

Oh but it is though, it is in the civil rights act, that Americans value so highly.

It prohibits discrimination based on religion, yes. From the law's point of view, however, religion has no fundamental value. To claim that the ruling was biased "because religion" isn't evidence.

[Salandriagado]

Wrong.

Right.

It is also a public accommodation. Learn to constitutional law.

[Sentinel XV]

I'm sure that this has been mentioned before but I have a question to those who think that the baker was within his rights to deny service to the couples: how is denying business to people because they are gay any different from in the past when businesses denied service to African-Americans?

[Swedish Realm]

Oh but it is though, it is in the civil rights act, that Americans value so highly.

It prohibits discrimination based on religion, yes. From the law's point of view, however, religion has no fundamental value. To claim that the ruling was biased "because religion" isn't evidence.

No, I didnt say because Religion, I said that he puts gay marriage over Religion, just like putting Religion over Gay Marriage is also Bias, eitherway is bias. And his religion is being discriminated, he is being forced to make a cake for Homosexuals.

[Divair]

No, I didnt say because Religion, I said that he puts gay marriage over Religion, just like putting Religion over Gay Marriage is also Bias, eitherway is bias.

By that logic, every decision made by any court in the history of time is biased.

And his religion is being discriminated, he is being forced to make a cake for Homosexuals.

That's what happens when you own a public accommodation. If you want to bake cakes for whom you please, you can close your business and do so in the privacy of your home. Businesses do not exist to cater to people's personal beliefs.

[Dyakovo]

It prohibits discrimination based on religion, yes. From the law's point of view, however, religion has no fundamental value. To claim that the ruling was biased "because religion" isn't evidence.

No, I didnt say because Religion, I said that he puts gay marriage over Religion, just like putting Religion over Gay Marriage is also Bias, eitherway is bias. And his religion is being discriminated, he is being forced to make a cake for Homosexuals.

No, it isn't.

[Dyakovo]

No, I didnt say because Religion, I said that he puts gay marriage over Religion, just like putting Religion over Gay Marriage is also Bias, eitherway is bias.

By that logic, every decision made by any court in the history of time is biased.

And his religion is being discriminated, he is being forced to make a cake for Homosexuals.

That's what happens when you own a public accommodation. If you want to bake cakes for whom you please, you can close your business and do so in the privacy of your home. Businesses do not exist to cater to people's personal beliefs.

Alternately, he could set up his bakery as a private club.

[Swedish Realm]

No, I didnt say because Religion, I said that he puts gay marriage over Religion, just like putting Religion over Gay Marriage is also Bias, eitherway is bias.

By that logic, every decision made by any court in the history of time is biased.

And his religion is being discriminated, he is being forced to make a cake for Homosexuals.

That's what happens when you own a public accommodation. If you want to bake cakes for whom you please, you can close your business and do so in the privacy of your home. Businesses do not exist to cater to people's personal beliefs.

It his business, it does not belong to the government.

[Divair]

By that logic, every decision made by any court in the history of time is biased.


That's what happens when you own a public accommodation. If you want to bake cakes for whom you please, you can close your business and do so in the privacy of your home. Businesses do not exist to cater to people's personal beliefs.

It his business, it does not belong to the government.

Irrelevant. You don't get to do as you please because you founded a business.

[Salandriagado]

By that logic, every decision made by any court in the history of time is biased.


That's what happens when you own a public accommodation. If you want to bake cakes for whom you please, you can close your business and do so in the privacy of your home. Businesses do not exist to cater to people's personal beliefs.

It his business, it does not belong to the government.

However, he does implicitly advertise his business as being open to the public. Therefore, it must actually be open to the public. All of the public.

[Shadeland]

Actually, no. Making a product for a homosexual is not prohibited in the Bible. In the New Testament, it preaches to love thy neighbor, be kind to others, don't judge others, and in one of my favorite verses, John 8:7, "When they kept on questioning him, he straightened up and said to them, "Let any one of you who is without sin be the first to throw a stone at her."" New International Version. Which basically means don't judge another person when you are not perfect yourself.

[Dyakovo]

By that logic, every decision made by any court in the history of time is biased.


That's what happens when you own a public accommodation. If you want to bake cakes for whom you please, you can close your business and do so in the privacy of your home. Businesses do not exist to cater to people's personal beliefs.

It his business, it does not belong to the government.

No-one has said or implied otherwise.

[Swedish Realm]

It his business, it does not belong to the government.

Irrelevant. You don't get to do as you please because you founded a business.

Relevant, actually. And that is what needs to be changed.