What gender do you identify with?

[Luveria]

Nah, if the woman is infertile then they can't be allowed to marry, because marriage is only for the purposes of reproductive sex.

Not seeing how the sarcastic remark is related.

The usual homophobia and transphobia that enters these kind of threads.

I'm completely male but how would you fit in if you were a male with female qualities or vice versa.

Male, but feminine male.

Idk, the distinctions seem a little silly. I'm quite masculine myself, but also perform femininity well. Eh.

I categorize it by appearance and little more. If someone looks like a feminine male, I consider them to be a feminine male.

As for identifying as a gender, if someone identifies as a male they are a male regardless of if they are feminine or masculine, as those are traits and not a gender identity.

[Occupied Deutschland]

Not seeing how the sarcastic remark is related.

The usual homophobia and transphobia that enters these kind of threads.

O-kay.
Not seeing the relation to what I said. But O-kay.

[Luveria]

The usual homophobia and transphobia that enters these kind of threads.

O-kay.
Not seeing the relation to what I said. But O-kay.

There was none. It's just that whenever someone mentions an argument like the one you were indirectly replying to:

Gender and sex are both useless.

People should be registered by two terms:

Can make babby.

Can't make babby.

I identify as can't make babby, because I do not have the proper equipment required to do so.

If I want babby in future, I seek someone who wants to make babby and identifies as can make babby.

If not, I seek whomever applies.

I can't help but expect the usual barrage of arguments justifying those views by people who believe such things.

[Occupied Deutschland]

O-kay.
Not seeing the relation to what I said. But O-kay.

There was none. It's just that whenever someone mentions an argument like the one you were indirectly replying to:

Gender and sex are both useless.

People should be registered by two terms:

Can make babby.

Can't make babby.

I identify as can't make babby, because I do not have the proper equipment required to do so.

If I want babby in future, I seek someone who wants to make babby and identifies as can make babby.

If not, I seek whomever applies.

I can't help but expect the usual barrage of arguments justifying those views by people who believe such things.

Ah, gotcha.

[Luveria]

There was none. It's just that whenever someone mentions an argument like the one you were indirectly replying to:



I can't help but expect the usual barrage of arguments justifying those views by people who believe such things.

Ah, gotcha.

Personally I find it a bit creepy that someone would categorize women entirely by their fertility, rather than any other feature.

Also, their transphobic argument horribly backfires on them because transgender men like Thomas Beatie can have babies, so Mr Beatie would go into the "can have babies category despite looking like a man."



That means he's clearly dating material for The United Citizen Front since the only thing that matters to him is if his partner can have babies.

[Freelanderness]

Male, but feminine male.

Idk, the distinctions seem a little silly. I'm quite masculine myself, but also perform femininity well. Eh.

I categorize it by appearance and little more. If someone looks like a feminine male, I consider them to be a feminine male.

As for identifying as a gender, if someone identifies as a male they are a male regardless of if they are feminine or masculine, as those are traits and not a gender identity.

Yes, but I mean in how certain traits are feminine and certain traits are masculine. It makes zero sense to me.

[Luveria]

I categorize it by appearance and little more. If someone looks like a feminine male, I consider them to be a feminine male.

As for identifying as a gender, if someone identifies as a male they are a male regardless of if they are feminine or masculine, as those are traits and not a gender identity.

Yes, but I mean in how certain traits are feminine and certain traits are masculine. It makes zero sense to me.

It's based on sexism more than anything else. Being pretty is feminine, being aggressive is masculine, etc.

[Gallowfield]

I categorize it by appearance and little more. If someone looks like a feminine male, I consider them to be a feminine male.

As for identifying as a gender, if someone identifies as a male they are a male regardless of if they are feminine or masculine, as those are traits and not a gender identity.

Yes, but I mean in how certain traits are feminine and certain traits are masculine. It makes zero sense to me.

It's all cultural. A masculine behavior in one culture is feminine in another, for the most part

[Freelanderness]

Yes, but I mean in how certain traits are feminine and certain traits are masculine. It makes zero sense to me.

It's based on sexism more than anything else. Being pretty is feminine, being aggressive is masculine, etc.

Precisely. I feel like it's a silly method of distinguishing. Gender to me seems like something entirely separate.

[Gallowfield]

It's based on sexism more than anything else. Being pretty is feminine, being aggressive is masculine, etc.

Precisely. I feel like it's a silly method of distinguishing. Gender to me seems like something entirely separate.

I agree. Not only is that logical, but too many girly things are too awesome for me to miss out on

[Freelanderness]

Precisely. I feel like it's a silly method of distinguishing. Gender to me seems like something entirely separate.

I agree. Not only is that logical, but too many girly things are too awesome for me to miss out on

Let's get our nails did.

[Gallowfield]

I agree. Not only is that logical, but too many girly things are too awesome for me to miss out on

Let's get our nails did.

My nails are busted up from manual labor. However, we could go shopping for some cute boots after yoga class

[Luveria]

I agree. Not only is that logical, but too many girly things are too awesome for me to miss out on

Let's get our nails did.

I would prefer clothing and cosmetics were gender neutral. Most males feel pressured to miss out on being pretty.

[Arglorand]

I'm completely male but how would you fit in if you were a male with female qualities or vice versa.

Define "female qualities", because at this point I'm pretty sure every quality in existence has been ascribed to the female gender. In the books I've read, whose age ranges from 500-year-old to 50-year-old, people have simultaneously ascribed softness and harshness, coldness and warmth, gregariousness and loneliness, vengefulness and forgiveness to be feminine qualities.

[Luveria]

I'm completely male but how would you fit in if you were a male with female qualities or vice versa.

Define "female qualities", because at this point I'm pretty sure every quality in existence has been ascribed to the female gender. In the books I've read, whose age ranges from 500-year-old to 50-year-old, people have simultaneously ascribed softness and harshness, coldness and warmth, gregariousness and loneliness, vengefulness and forgiveness to be feminine qualities.

AKA: sexism, and stereotypes.

[Arglorand]

Define "female qualities", because at this point I'm pretty sure every quality in existence has been ascribed to the female gender. In the books I've read, whose age ranges from 500-year-old to 50-year-old, people have simultaneously ascribed softness and harshness, coldness and warmth, gregariousness and loneliness, vengefulness and forgiveness to be feminine qualities.

AKA: sexism, and stereotypes.

Aye. It's like people only talk to one person of the opposite gender and formulate silly idiotic ideas about how every other woman in the world is the same.

[Luveria]

AKA: sexism, and stereotypes.

Aye. It's like people only talk to one person of the opposite gender and formulate silly idiotic ideas about how every other woman in the world is the same.

That is why I categorize 'feminine" and "masculine" by appearance and nothing more. If a male almost looks like a girl, I will consider them to be a feminine male. If a beefy and aggressive gay male is emotionally sensitive, I'm not going to say they are a feminine male if by their appearance they are more masculine than most straight males could be.

[Crownariam]

Aye. It's like people only talk to one person of the opposite gender and formulate silly idiotic ideas about how every other woman in the world is the same.

That is why I categorize 'feminine" and "masculine" by appearance and nothing more. If a male almost looks like a girl, I will consider them to be a feminine male. If a beefy and aggressive gay male is emotionally sensitive, I'm not going to say they are a feminine male if by their appearance they are more masculine than most straight males could be.

That makes sense to me.

[Darwinish Brentsylvania]

Man, but sometimes I just say guy in case if in not sure