What gender do you identify with?

[Conscentia]

Though I may conform to a gender, I do not identify with one.

Which gender do you conform to?

Male

[Constitutional Commonwealth]

I am a gender bender in a skirt with a penis attracted to females.

Your attractions have nothing to do with gender.

Meh, thought I'll list them all for the most accurate picture of myself.

[Gallowfield]

Men's skinny jeans suck. Women's are awesome as long as they're not low-rise. Well, I don't like wearing low-rise. Other men might, but I don't get how they do it.......

I've never actually tried women's skinny jeans, I'll have to get some.

If you do, do it like this. Get mid or high-rise, and then pull them down a tad to give your family jewels some room. That way you get that snug, leg-flattering fit but it doesn't hurt to walk. Also, people might make fun of you. I don't care, but that would bother some people.

[Luveria]

Your attractions have nothing to do with gender.

Meh, thought I'll list them all for the most accurate picture of myself.

Then would you be attracted to other gender benders in skirts if they look female?

I've never actually tried women's skinny jeans, I'll have to get some.

If you do, do it like this. Get mid or high-rise, and then pull them down a tad to give your family jewels some room. That way you get that snug, leg-flattering fit but it doesn't hurt to walk. Also, people might make fun of you. I don't care, but that would bother some people.

If people bother you, that is because they are conformists who want to ridicule anyone courageous enough to be themselves.

[Gallowfield]

Meh, thought I'll list them all for the most accurate picture of myself.

Then would you be attracted to other gender benders in skirts if they look female?

If you do, do it like this. Get mid or high-rise, and then pull them down a tad to give your family jewels some room. That way you get that snug, leg-flattering fit but it doesn't hurt to walk. Also, people might make fun of you. I don't care, but that would bother some people.

If people bother you, that is because they are conformists who want to ridicule anyone courageous enough to be themselves.

Not just that, but I think they're jealous of my legs and butt. One thing I like to do if someone makes fun of me is look at their legs, raise an eyebrow, and politely ask "Have you ever thought about doing squats or leg lifts?"

[Constitutional Commonwealth]

Meh, thought I'll list them all for the most accurate picture of myself.

Then would you be attracted to other gender benders in skirts if they look female?

I'll be honest with you. They're cute.

[Luveria]

Then would you be attracted to other gender benders in skirts if they look female?

I'll be honest with you. They're cute.

Very.

[Constitutional Commonwealth]

I'll be honest with you. They're cute.

Very.

Can't wait to live in my own accommodation so I can wear one myself without feeling extremely awkward as I do now with my parents living under the same roof.

[Libertechie]

I'll be honest with you. They're cute.

Very.

Very very

[Consolidate Nations Alliance]

I'm....not even sure what I am really. I narrowed it doen to bigender or genderfluid.

[Tursund]

Sex: M.
Gender ID: Um... Male? I think? Probably neither, actually.
Sexuality: Hetero.

I don't have a Gender ID. I call myself male because that's physical. I am attracted to females and not males, and therefore I'm heterosexual. However, I have never identified with one group over the other.

But it is interesting (though not necessarily relevant) to note that out of all my teacher's sociology classes, I was the second or third most feminine person out of all of them when we took the masculine VS feminine test as an introduction to gender and stereotyping. Not that such a test is viable, but I find it interesting that most people (most of which are cisgendered) regardless of sex were ranked around the Neuter Gender zone and me, a guy, was over halfway through the feminine side of the scale.

Also interesting to note is the fictional character I identify the most with is a female who used to be a male, which is one of the only couple of differences between me and her. The other being that I don't wish to become female and never have. I'd turn back after I felt the first fucking menstrual cramp, if not sooner. No idea how women deal with that stuff.

(oh and hi thar, it's my first post on NS forums )

[Neutraligon]

Genderless for the win.

[Luveria]

Genderless for the win.

Nope. Omnigender for the win.

[Aurora Novus]

I don't now how beneficial it is for me to reply to a topic like this, given my views on gender...but, maybe I can share something useful. Given the choices, I would undoubtably identify as genderless. Though, if given the standard "male/female" choice of society, I would almost always pick female. I feel more associated with "feminine" things than "masculine" things. Furthermore, most of my friends, and all of my close friends, are women. In fact for me it has been something of a major issue, always feeling this wall of seperation from the people I am closest to. And it's been a rather painful experience for me, which may at least in part explain my deep hatred (I feel comfortable describing it as such) of sex and gender orientated thinking. My heart's true desire is to walk the line, so as to be able to fluidly move in and out of either social circle, and in effect, creating my own, unique circle. But in the event I cannot do that, I would surely wish to be on the side of those I long to be with the most. Something which has been denied to me, due to my sex, both by society at large, and in many cases even my own friends.


I detest gender. With every fiber of my being, I hate it. I hate the groupism. I hate the ostracization. I hate the pain. And I will never stop hating it.


Perhaps for some of you that will explain, in part, the reasons I've taken up the positions I have in previous debates.

[Blouman Empire]

76% are men, knew it was a sausage fest in here, I guess that's why we have so many circle jerks.

[Luveria]

I don't now how beneficial it is for me to reply to a topic like this, given my views on gender...but, maybe I can share something useful. Given the choices, I would undoubtably identify as genderless. Though, if given the standard "male/female" choice of society, I would almost always pick female. I feel more associated with "feminine" things than "masculine" things. Furthermore, most of my friends, and all of my close friends, are women. In fact for me it has been something of a major issue, always feeling this wall of seperation from the people I am closest to. And it's been a rather painful experience for me, which may at least in part explain my deep hatred (I feel comfortable describing it as such) of sex and gender orientated thinking. My heart's true desire is to walk the line, so as to be able to fluidly move in and out of either social circle, and in effect, creating my own, unique circle. But in the event I cannot do that, I would surely wish to be on the side of those I long to be with the most. Something which has been denied to me, due to my sex, both by society at large, and in many cases even my own friends.


I detest gender. With every fiber of my being, I hate it. I hate the groupism. I hate the ostracization. I hate the pain. And I will never stop hating it.


Perhaps for some of you that will explain, in part, the reasons I've taken up the positions I have in previous debates.

Does that you mean are willing to walk the line like Frank Wolf?

[Aurora Novus]

I don't now how beneficial it is for me to reply to a topic like this, given my views on gender...but, maybe I can share something useful. Given the choices, I would undoubtably identify as genderless. Though, if given the standard "male/female" choice of society, I would almost always pick female. I feel more associated with "feminine" things than "masculine" things. Furthermore, most of my friends, and all of my close friends, are women. In fact for me it has been something of a major issue, always feeling this wall of seperation from the people I am closest to. And it's been a rather painful experience for me, which may at least in part explain my deep hatred (I feel comfortable describing it as such) of sex and gender orientated thinking. My heart's true desire is to walk the line, so as to be able to fluidly move in and out of either social circle, and in effect, creating my own, unique circle. But in the event I cannot do that, I would surely wish to be on the side of those I long to be with the most. Something which has been denied to me, due to my sex, both by society at large, and in many cases even my own friends.


I detest gender. With every fiber of my being, I hate it. I hate the groupism. I hate the ostracization. I hate the pain. And I will never stop hating it.


Perhaps for some of you that will explain, in part, the reasons I've taken up the positions I have in previous debates.

Does that you mean are willing to walk the line like Frank Wolf?

If you're asking if I'd want to look androgynous, absolutely. More so on the feminine side of androgyny, but absolutely. And in fact, this Spring I'm going to a convention with some friends of mine, who've promised to do me up in makeup and help me find a really nice outfit for this masquerade ball, and have me go as a woman.

[PostFreelasio]

I am a man, but I seek to eliminate gender roles from all aspects of my life. Therefore I choose other.

[Luveria]

Does that you mean are willing to walk the line like Frank Wolf?

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If you're asking if I'd want to look androgynous, absolutely. More so on the feminine side of androgyny, but absolutely. And in fact, this Spring I'm going to a convention with some friends of mine, who've promised to do me up in makeup and help me find a really nice outfit for this masquerade ball, and have me go as a woman.

Frank Wolf's opinion on it was this;

I consider myself as male AND as neutral. But I think clothes and accessories should be neutral too.

I was shopping for sunglasses 2 weeks ago. I was trying a pair when the cashier/advisor told me ”Excuse me sir, these sunglasses are for women”. I said ”Oh, really? Where it is written?”. She didn’t add a word. And finally I bought this pair of sunglasses because it fitted me pretty well ^_^

~ Frank Wolf

Which I am in agreement with, that all clothing and accessories should be gender neutral. It is such an arbitrary restriction to say girls can wear X and Y, and males can only wear X but not Y, or they are gay. Or sissies. Or crossdressers. Or whatever.

[Aurora Novus]

If you're asking if I'd want to look androgynous, absolutely. More so on the feminine side of androgyny, but absolutely. And in fact, this Spring I'm going to a convention with some friends of mine, who've promised to do me up in makeup and help me find a really nice outfit for this masquerade ball, and have me go as a woman.

Frank Wolf's opinion on it was this;

I consider myself as male AND as neutral. But I think clothes and accessories should be neutral too.

I was shopping for sunglasses 2 weeks ago. I was trying a pair when the cashier/advisor told me ”Excuse me sir, these sunglasses are for women”. I said ”Oh, really? Where it is written?”. She didn’t add a word. And finally I bought this pair of sunglasses because it fitted me pretty well ^_^

~ Frank Wolf

Which I am in agreement with, that all clothing and accessories should be gender neutral. It is such an arbitrary restriction to say girls can wear X and Y, and males can only wear X but not Y, or they are gay. Or sissies. Or crossdressers. Or whatever.

I certainly agree. For me though, the pain runs much deeper than things like clothing. It's the groups themselves. I can't name the number of times I've been forced to participate in different acitivites, forced to attend or leave events at different times, denied the abilty to engage in certain activities with my friends, simply because of the group I'm foisted onto by others. And the thing is, this often happens by my own friends. They'll have a "girls night" (which I am obviously excluded from), or even something as simple as just using a "female" bathroom, leaving me behind. Sometimes it's just different, subconcious treatment in general, in the way they'll talk to me, or suggest I do things. Sometimes I'll be denied information because I'm not part of the right "gender group". It may seem silly, but it's not to me. Years of that shit gets to you. It hurts. It hurts a lot.

EDIT: Just a few nights ago, I was at a party with some friends of mine, and they decided they wanted to play a board game called "Battle of the Sexes". My only friends there were the women. I knew none of the men. And yet, because they were "my" group, I was forced to function on a team with them, fighing against the people I wanted to be fighting with. Rejected by those very people. That fucking shit hurt a lot.

[Swith Witherward]

On a day-to-day basis, I really don't give my gender much thought. I ignore what society has to say. "Girls don't fart"... bullshit. "Girls are always demure and feminine"... bullshit. "Girls don't run around like idiots, tussling and being loud"... bullshit.

Perhaps I'm phrasing it wrong, and pardon me for saying it, but be yourself. Some people seem to put too much effort into portraying themselves as the gender they associate with.

So you're a guy who identifies more with female things? You like makeup and primping, for example. Buy it. Put it on and enjoy the feeling of being pretty. Do it because it makes you happy. But don't run around demanding everyone acknowledge how pretty you are as you add more makeup and flail around more weirdly than the most girlish of girls. If you do that, you could be doing it for the wrong reasons. You might be doing it because you crave affirmation or acceptance. People, acceptance begins within you. Accept yourself for who you are and walk confidently into the world.

/fatigued rambling.

[Luveria]

Frank Wolf's opinion on it was this;



Which I am in agreement with, that all clothing and accessories should be gender neutral. It is such an arbitrary restriction to say girls can wear X and Y, and males can only wear X but not Y, or they are gay. Or sissies. Or crossdressers. Or whatever.

I certainly agree. For me though, the pain runs much deeper than things like clothing. It's the groups themselves. I can't name the number of times I've been forced to participate in different acitivites, forced to attend or leave events at different times, denied the abilty to engage in certain activities with my friends, simply because of the group I'm foisted onto by others. And the thing is, this often happens by my own friends. They'll have a "girls night" (which I am obviously excluded from), or even something as simple as just using a "female" bathroom, leaving me behind. Sometimes it's just different, subconcious treatment in general, in the way they'll talk to me, or suggest I do things. Sometimes I'll be denied information because I'm not part of the right "gender group". It may seem silly, but it's not to me. Years of that shit gets to you. It hurts. It hurts a lot.

EDIT: Just a few nights ago, I was at a party with some friends of mine, and they decided they wanted to play a board game called "Battle of the Sexes". My only friends there were the women. I knew none of the men. And yet, because they were "my" group, I was forced to function on a team with them, fighing against the people I wanted to be fighting with. Rejected by those very people. That fucking shit hurt a lot.

If I were in your position, I would have demanded to be on the side I wanted to be or I would not have taken part at all.

[Nornia (Ancient)]

I am masculine

[Luveria]

I am masculine

The question is;

Masculine male, masculine female, or masculine androgyne?

[Lost heros]

76% are men, knew it was a sausage fest in here, I guess that's why we have so many circle jerks.

Wow, misunderstanding the definition of gender and stereotyping men in one post.