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What gender do you identify with?

Man
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Woman
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Other
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Lost heros
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Postby Lost heros » Tue Dec 10, 2013 2:25 pm

Kylistan wrote:This thread is disturbing. Gender and sex should go hand in hand, and this thread only highlights the disturbing fact that the world is becoming full of wackos who don't understand that boys have penises and girls have vaginas. This is basic biology! Having a penis and identifying as
"feminine" is insane. If your gender is opposite your sex, then you have some serious problems.

Oh and in case you were wondering by WHO standards, my sex is male and my gender is masculine.

Why should gender and sex go hand in hand?
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Postby Kylistan » Tue Dec 10, 2013 2:26 pm

No Oppression Whatsoever wrote:
Trezchoix wrote:I don't understand nature made us different that's the way it is, some of us have a penis others a vagina both different use separate bathrooms simple. Unless its a 1 person bathroom then I see unisex as a good idea but multiple stalls no get over the notion that people are the same were not that is why nature made us different.


but why does sex matter? shouldn't we get rid of this "separate but equal" nonsense?


Do you want us to live in peace and harmony on a giant nudist colony and just go around having sex with whoever we feel like whenever we want to. Unisex bathrooms are cases of rape, sexual assault, and molestation waiting to happen.
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Postby Crownariam » Tue Dec 10, 2013 2:26 pm

Grenartia wrote:
Trezchoix wrote:

No my war aginst tha English langage wil kontinu! I will sotp the grammr Nazis !



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I have an idea: if we ignore Trez then xe will go away until xe learns how to use grammar.

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Postby New Frenco Empire » Tue Dec 10, 2013 2:28 pm

Kylistan wrote:
No Oppression Whatsoever wrote:
but why does sex matter? shouldn't we get rid of this "separate but equal" nonsense?


Do you want us to live in peace and harmony on a giant nudist colony and just go around having sex with whoever we feel like whenever we want to. Unisex bathrooms are cases of rape, sexual assault, and molestation waiting to happen.

You have a source to back your bullshit up?
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Postby Rocopurr » Tue Dec 10, 2013 2:28 pm

Kylistan wrote:
No Oppression Whatsoever wrote:
but why does sex matter? shouldn't we get rid of this "separate but equal" nonsense?


Do you want us to live in peace and harmony on a giant nudist colony and just go around having sex with whoever we feel like whenever we want to. Unisex bathrooms are cases of rape, sexual assault, and molestation waiting to happen.

A sign that says 'female' or 'male' isn't going to stop someone from going into a restroom and sexually assaulting someone.
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Postby Othelos » Tue Dec 10, 2013 2:29 pm

Kylistan wrote:This thread is disturbing. Gender and sex should go hand in hand, and this thread only highlights the disturbing fact that the world is becoming full of wackos who don't understand that boys have penises and girls have vaginas. This is basic biology! Having a penis and identifying as
"feminine" is insane. If your gender is opposite your sex, then you have some serious problems.

Oh and in case you were wondering by WHO standards, my sex is male and my gender is masculine.

Just because you don't understand something doesn't make it "insane" or a "problem".

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Postby Lost heros » Tue Dec 10, 2013 2:30 pm

Kylistan wrote: Unisex bathrooms are cases of rape, sexual assault, and molestation waiting to happen.

What logic are using here?
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Postby The Emerald Dawn » Tue Dec 10, 2013 2:30 pm

Lost heros wrote:
Kylistan wrote: Unisex bathrooms are cases of rape, sexual assault, and molestation waiting to happen.

What logic are using here?

Paranoid Fox News Logic.

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Postby Lost heros » Tue Dec 10, 2013 2:32 pm

The Emerald Dawn wrote:
Lost heros wrote:What logic are using here?

Paranoid Fox News Logic.

Fox is as logical as green grapes are blue.
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Postby Dread Lady Nathicana » Tue Dec 10, 2013 2:32 pm

Trezchoix wrote:
Grenartia wrote:
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Seriously, Trez. Use some punctuation or something.



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Postby Blekksprutia » Tue Dec 10, 2013 2:35 pm

Kylistan wrote:This thread is disturbing. Gender and sex should go hand in hand, and this thread only highlights the disturbing fact that the world is becoming full of wackos who don't understand that boys have penises and girls have vaginas. This is basic biology! Having a penis and identifying as
"feminine" is insane. If your gender is opposite your sex, then you have some serious problems.

Oh and in case you were wondering by WHO standards, my sex is male and my gender is masculine.

Any idea what it might be like to be trapped within your own body?
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Postby Zottistan » Tue Dec 10, 2013 2:37 pm

Kylistan wrote:This thread is disturbing. Gender and sex should go hand in hand,

Why?
and this thread only highlights the disturbing fact that the world is becoming full of wackos who don't understand that boys have penises and girls have vaginas.

Biologically speaking, yes. Psychologically speaking, no.
This is basic biology!

And this is relatively less basic biology. Educate yourself.
Having a penis and identifying as
"feminine" is insane. If your gender is opposite your sex, then you have some serious problems.

The overwhelming majority of psychiatrists and neurologists disagree.
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Kybekistan
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Postby Kybekistan » Tue Dec 10, 2013 2:37 pm

The Emerald Dawn wrote:
Lost heros wrote:What logic are using here?

Paranoid Fox News Logic.

Your logic is flawed. Unisex bathrooms won't increase these things. There are already unisex bathrooms, many small businesses, gas stations, doctors offices, and other places have unisex bathrooms. Granted they are the only bathrooms at those locations, but they don't cause an increase in rape. If someone is planning on raping you, they won't care what type of bathroom it is in. And if you are really so worried about it, take some self defense classes. Don't blame the bathroom.

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Postby Kelinfort » Tue Dec 10, 2013 2:39 pm

You see, these concepts are very nebulous. Anatomy is completely separate from gender. For many, it plays a role, but the two are nonetheless separate.

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Postby Lost heros » Tue Dec 10, 2013 2:40 pm

Kelinfort wrote:You see, these concepts are very nebulous. Anatomy is completely separate from gender. For many, it plays a role, but the two are nonetheless separate.

There are more than 2 genders.
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Postby Dread Lady Nathicana » Tue Dec 10, 2013 2:40 pm

Kylistan wrote:
No Oppression Whatsoever wrote:
but why does sex matter? shouldn't we get rid of this "separate but equal" nonsense?


Do you want us to live in peace and harmony on a giant nudist colony and just go around having sex with whoever we feel like whenever we want to. Unisex bathrooms are cases of rape, sexual assault, and molestation waiting to happen.

One, stop trolling. Two, there is a thread for all this. This one, isn't it. Knock it off.

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Postby Kelinfort » Tue Dec 10, 2013 2:40 pm

Kylistan wrote:This thread is disturbing. Gender and sex should go hand in hand, and this thread only highlights the disturbing fact that the world is becoming full of wackos who don't understand that boys have penises and girls have vaginas. This is basic biology! Having a penis and identifying as
"feminine" is insane. If your gender is opposite your sex, then you have some serious problems.

Oh and in case you were wondering by WHO standards, my sex is male and my gender is masculine.

You have never heard of SRY syndrome for XX individuals and XY individuals have you?

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Postby Kelinfort » Tue Dec 10, 2013 2:40 pm

Lost heros wrote:
Kelinfort wrote:You see, these concepts are very nebulous. Anatomy is completely separate from gender. For many, it plays a role, but the two are nonetheless separate.

There are more than 2 genders.

No, sex and gender, not just two genders.
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Postby Lost heros » Tue Dec 10, 2013 2:41 pm

Kelinfort wrote:
Lost heros wrote:There are more than 2 genders.

No, sex and gender.

Oh, my apologies.
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Postby Veceria » Tue Dec 10, 2013 2:42 pm

Male. I guess. I don't really care about genders.
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Postby Kelinfort » Tue Dec 10, 2013 2:43 pm

Lost heros wrote:
Kelinfort wrote:No, sex and gender.

Oh, my apologies.

It's alright. More importantly, it's why the arguments of "If you have a vagina you're female; if you have a penis you're male" is incorrect.

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Postby Blekksprutia » Tue Dec 10, 2013 2:44 pm

Kylistan wrote:This thread is disturbing. Gender and sex should go hand in hand, and this thread only highlights the disturbing fact that the world is becoming full of wackos who don't understand that boys have penises and girls have vaginas. This is basic biology! Having a penis and identifying as
"feminine" is insane. If your gender is opposite your sex, then you have some serious problems.

Oh and in case you were wondering by WHO standards, my sex is male and my gender is masculine.

For a more carried - out reason of "no":

Kylistan wrote:This thread is disturbing.


No.

Kylistan wrote:Gender and sex should go hand in hand,


No.

Kylistan wrote:and this thread only highlights the disturbing fact that the world is becoming full of wackos who don't understand that boys have penises and girls have vaginas.


No.
To elaborate, biological males have biologically male genitalia, and biological females have biologically female genitalia.
Some people have a different gender than their sex; deal with it.

Kylistan wrote:This is basic biology!

It is! It is NOT basic psychology!

Kylistan wrote:Having a penis and identifying as
"feminine" is insane.

No. Having a penis and identifying as "feminine" means that someone is a MtF transperson. That's a perfectly acceptable thing. It's not a choice, it doesn't make them "wackos," it's perfectly fine. You have obviously no familiarity with anything surrounding transgenderedness. If you had any idea of what it's like to not have your body match your gender, then you wouldn't be saying this now.

Kylistan wrote:If your gender is opposite your sex, then you have some serious problems.

If you think transgenderedness is a serious problem, then you have some serious problems.

Kylistan wrote:Oh and in case you were wondering by WHO standards, my sex is male and my gender is masculine.

And that's fine. And it's also fine to have a female sex and feminine gender, or to be MtF or FtM or genderfluid or genderqueer.
That's all fine.
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Postby The USOT » Tue Dec 10, 2013 2:46 pm

I suppose male? I have no idea what being a woman is like in terms of identity. I can read it sure, but never get a feel for the identity. Perhaps I feel like a woman, but am so used to being a male that I just presume I am male in gender.

I know thats being pedantic perhaps, but as someone who has never really had an identity crisis of any sort, I couldnt begin to know.
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Postby Cameroi » Tue Dec 10, 2013 2:47 pm

of all the things i identify with, gender in any context outside of the act of sexual intercourse itself, is not one of them.
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Postby Dread Lady Nathicana » Tue Dec 10, 2013 3:04 pm

THIS is a thread about what gender one identifies with.

THIS IS NOT a thread about unisex bathrooms. Take it elsewhere, it's been done to death, the threadjack stops now. Thanks.

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