What gender do you identify with?

[Luveria]

Gender=sex.

No offence.

Jews= Userers

No offense

The purpose of saying "no offense" is when a person is being intentionally offensive and doesn't want to be called out on it.

[The Carlisle]

Jews= Userers

No offense

The purpose of saying "no offense" is when a person is being intentionally offensive and doesn't want to be called out on it.

I'm not sure if your quoting my post as an example or trying to correct me.

[Luveria]

The purpose of saying "no offense" is when a person is being intentionally offensive and doesn't want to be called out on it.

I'm not sure if your quoting my post as an example or trying to correct me.

As an example. I'm letting EUstan know I see through his act.

[The Carlisle]

I'm not sure if your quoting my post as an example or trying to correct me.

As an example. I'm letting EUstan know I see through his act.

Oh. My time on general has made me panicky. Each time I see my post quoted on here, I think "What did I do?!"

[The Emerald Dawn]

As an example. I'm letting EUstan know I see through his act.

Oh. My time on general has made me panicky. Each time I see my post quoted on here, I think "What did I do?!"

YOU KNOW WHAT YOU DID.

[Lies and Ignorance]

I mean, to literally claim that gender equals sex is to fly in the face of almost everything we know in human anthropology, sociology, archaeology, and psychology. I don't get it.

You can even point to everyday events and show people the distinction between gender and sex. It's pretty much common sense that they're different. (i.e. intersex individuals conforming to one of society's two primary genders despite not biologically matching it, or women who have hysterectomies continuing to be women, etc)

[EUstan]

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The case of David Reimer prooves that gender is not something learned but it is something natural.

Transsexual people are just suffering from gender indentity disorder, which does not make them evil people but rather some who need medical help.

[Luveria]

As an example. I'm letting EUstan know I see through his act.

Oh. My time on general has made me panicky. Each time I see my post quoted on here, I think "What did I do?!"

Two counts of flaming, four counts of trolling, one count of flamebaiting, and two counts of spamming moderation.

Your sentence will be 90 days in the slammer.

I mean, to literally claim that gender equals sex is to fly in the face of almost everything we know in human anthropology, sociology, archaeology, and psychology. I don't get it.

You can even point to everyday events and show people the distinction between gender and sex. It's pretty much common sense that they're different. (i.e. intersex individuals conforming to one of society's two primary genders despite not biologically matching it, or women who have hysterectomies continuing to be women, etc)

To the people who have the belief gender is sex, then they must admit intersex people have two genders by their reasoning, regardless of which gender intersex people identify as.

[Luveria]

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The case of David Reimer prooves that gender is not something learned but it is something natural.

Transsexual people are just suffering from gender indentity disorder, which does not make them evil people but rather some who need medical help.

Is there a reason you edited out my post?

[The Emerald Dawn]

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The case of David Reimer prooves that gender is not something learned but it is something natural.

Transsexual people are just suffering from gender indentity disorder, which does not make them evil people but rather some who need medical help.

I know what all of these words mean individually, but I have no fucking clue what this is saying as a whole.

[Occupied Deutschland]

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The case of David Reimer prooves that gender is not something learned but it is something natural.

Transsexual people are just suffering from gender indentity disorder, which does not make them evil people but rather some who need medical help.

The case of David Reimer really only proves that David Reimer identified as a male.

[EUstan]

The case of David Reimer prooves that gender is not something learned but it is something natural.

Transsexual people are just suffering from gender indentity disorder, which does not make them evil people but rather some who need medical help.

The case of David Reimer really only proves that David Reimer identified as a male.

The doctor who treated him wanted to proove whether is gender learned or not. He was dissapointed as the result gave other than he expected.

[Gallowfield]

My gender means nothing to me.

Woah, this place has way more fellow demigendered closer-to-cis/agender-intergendered people* than what I thought.

* Yes, in the Western world, this is a relatively accurate explanation of the mindset of those who have gender = human or gender = yourself, IMHO, and since "human" and "yourself" aren't tagged in our culture to any biological sex... people like us are genderqueer or non-binary, and thus sort of trans* people.

I go by male because my body is very much male and I don't object to being called a man, but if someone said I were feminine I wouldn't take it as an insult

[Luveria]

The case of David Reimer really only proves that David Reimer identified as a male.

The doctor who treated him wanted to proove whether is gender learned or not. He was dissapointed as the result gave other than he expected.

So you have one example? That's nice. It takes more than one example for something to be proven or disproven.

[EUstan]

The doctor who treated him wanted to proove whether is gender learned or not. He was dissapointed as the result gave other than he expected.

So you have one example? That's nice. It takes more than one example for something to be proven or disproven.

There is also no examples that prooves that gender is learned, since it is very unethical to experiment on people.

[Occupied Deutschland]

The case of David Reimer really only proves that David Reimer identified as a male.

The doctor who treated him wanted to proove whether is gender learned or not. He was dissapointed as the result gave other than he expected.

That's all fine.
But it's one case. For something like that, one would need a multitude of such cases.

Besides that, all it proves is that Reimer identified as male. It doesn't bear any connection to trans* individuals as they may identify as either one.

[Luveria]

So you have one example? That's nice. It takes more than one example for something to be proven or disproven.

There is also no examples that prooves that gender is learned, since it is very unethical to experiment on people.

So you admit you have nothing either way? Then why bring it up?

[Othelos]

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The case of David Reimer prooves that gender is not something learned but it is something natural.

Transsexual people are just suffering from gender indentity disorder, which does not make them evil people but rather some who need medical help.

Regardless of whether it's learned or not, people have a right to be who they are, as long as they aren't hurting themselves or others.

Why would someone need medical help? Sending the message that there's something innately wrong with him/her just because of who he/she is causes far more problems than just letting people be.

[Luveria]

The case of David Reimer prooves that gender is not something learned but it is something natural.

Transsexual people are just suffering from gender indentity disorder, which does not make them evil people but rather some who need medical help.

I know what all of these words mean individually, but I have no fucking clue what this is saying as a whole.

I'm lost too.

[EUstan]

There is also no examples that prooves that gender is learned, since it is very unethical to experiment on people.

So you admit you have nothing either way? Then why bring it up?

No, I said that your side has not any example that show that you are right. It is unetchical to experiment on people and Reimer was used in the experiment because his parents were forced to do so.

[Luveria]

So you admit you have nothing either way? Then why bring it up?

No, I said that your side has not any example that show that you are right. It is unetchical to experiment on people and Reimer was used in the experiment because his parents were forced to do so.

What side is mine? What are my beliefs? How would you know when I haven't said it in this thread...? What's with this "your side" rhetoric?

[Aeken]

So you admit you have nothing either way? Then why bring it up?

No, I said that your side has not any example that show that you are right. It is unetchical to experiment on people and Reimer was used in the experiment because his parents were forced to do so.

I'm very confused by this.

[Murbleflip]

Shoot, you got me there.

We have an artists impression of Conkerials here....

Conkerials! Show us the artistic alchemy technique that has been passed down in your family for generations!

[Luveria]

No, I said that your side has not any example that show that you are right. It is unetchical to experiment on people and Reimer was used in the experiment because his parents were forced to do so.

I'm very confused by this.

If I'm not mistaken, EUstan is using 'YOU'RE AGAINST ME SO CLEARLY YOU'RE PART OF THEIR SIDE!" when there has been nothing to indicate which "side" I'm on, or what my beliefs are as I haven't mentioned it anywhere...

[Hladgos]

I identify as male, though I was a little confused a while back with what I wanted to be. I'm still bisexual, but I like my boy/girl relationship right now. It's too romantic and exciting to want to be with anyone else.